iPhone 6 Plus lag is real

[sunking101]

funny. I had all the betas, iOS 9 GM, iOS 9.1 PB1 and now iOS 9 Final and my 6+ works perfectly as if it was on 8.4.1

So just the occasional stutter, freeze, crash, unresponsive screen and springboard crash then? All is well again.

 

[cynics]

Yeah thats has more to do with iOS tho rather than device power. Saying the iPhone 6 is underpowered comes of as like Apple released a phone below specs. This is simply not true, the A8 was and still is at the top of the food chain.

Apple is clearly struggling with iOS performance since 7 and I just dont know what they are doing. For example I had the ios 9 beta 3-5 on my iPad Air 2 and was well happy with it (apart from the fact that animations once again have to finish before doing anything). Than I installed the GM on my phone and it was pretty bad, lag wise. I obviously upgraded to the public realise the other day and most of the lag I had is gone. Most of it tho and not all of it, I just dont know why nobody there sees these issues. iOS basically chokes every now and than and since iOS 7 they just cannot get that sorted. Sometimes its better like iOS 7.1, iOS 8.4, sometimes its worse like iOS 7.0, 8.0 - 8.3 or now ios 9.

iOS and OS X teams must also be different I suppose and the OS X team should get some credit this year. OS X is absolutely amazing imo, they did a great job with ElCapitan in all aspects.
Its not like iOS 9 crashes all the time like 7.0 or 8.0 did, and they actually fixed bugs that were over 1.5 years old but they just cannot get that smoothness right.

I think Tim Cook needs to summon his inner Steve Jobs once and a while and just go crazy. Have a meeting with the iOS team and be like "What is iOS supposed to be?". Than tell them that "smoothness" is one of them and that their work is s***t.
Or they need to hire more people because they cannot keep up with what they are doing anymore. I mean watch os, tv OS, iOS 8-9, OS X Yosemite redesign / El Capitan, apple music, IPL, Continuity, iCloud drive, much better spotlight, proactivity, handoff, siri improvements, apple Pay, news app etc. They have done a lot those last 2 years.
The answer is probably both.

How is the apple outside world? Im curious too but not because I want to leave apple.

I disagree. The device might not be underpowered on paper but if there is no possible way of running software on it that doesn't lag to some extent then it's a fair argument to say it's underpowered.

Which is why I said its underpowered relative to the software. Spec for spec comparison and it's pretty fast but IMO that's more of a spec war argument the other side of the fence (Android) always argues.

 

[mofoliar]

no lags,here... nothing that not use too,anyways... iOS 9.1

 

[crashoverride77]

I will say some things have gotten better. Switching tabs in safari is smoother and replying to a message via the lock screen has no keyboard lag now on the 6 Plus.

The general consensus seems to be that the metal in iOS 9 seems to have more of an effect in apps. Safari scrolling and tabs seems much smoother to me too. There are other apps where I noticed that too.
However there are still apps that run the same, for example the video app still has the same initial stutter and lag when scrolling trough your movies.

I think people fall into the same trap every year.
iOS 6.0 is the worst release ever, it has so many bugs. A Year later its the best and smoothest OS ever.
iOS 7.0 is the worst release ever, its so slow etc. 8 months later iOS 7.1 is godly and the benchmark for all later updates.
iOS 8.0 is the worst update ever, its so bad etc. 10 months later 8.4 is buttery smooth and the benchmark for all iOS updates.

Lets be brutally honest here, excluding the performance issues iOS 9 is the most stable and bug free please in years, and that includes iOS 6. And we are talking about the .0 version.

Notice that I put "obsolete" in scare quotes. For lack of a better word, iOS updates do hurt performance far greater than OS X updates ever have, and they cut out features from older devices at a much faster rate than OS X. You prove this by saying that El Cap runs better than Yosemite - yes, this is exactly the point. When has a subsequent iOS release run better than its precedent release? I have been using iOS since iOS 4, and I can tell you that in the last five years, that phenomenon has not occurred once. Indeed, new iOS versions have certainly added new functionality, but none of them have actually run more efficiently. This makes sense - the turn-around time on mobile devices is much quicker than for desktop computers. However, it doesn't make it any less true or any less frustrating. Furthermore, OS X El Cap will run on devices that are up to eight years old. It's been eight years since the release of the first iPhone, to put things into perspective. iPhones half that age won't run iOS 9.

You specifically write that "iOS 9 runs exactly the same on my iPhone 6 as 8.4, maybe with the exception of a slight app delay, spotlight iffiness, and occasional lag in multitasking" - I hate to break it to you, but that means that iOS 9 does not run exactly the same on your iPhone 6 as 8.4.

Yeah, I meant overall speed it's the same to me, as well my phone has settled in it seems because it's running very well.
I hate to break it to you but comparing 8.4 which came out what like 2-3 months ago compared to a .0 release is stupid. iOS 9 is looking pretty good to and is defiantly the best .0 release since iOS 5.

 

[crashoverride77]

I will say some things have gotten better. Switching tabs in safari is smoother and replying to a message via the lock screen has no keyboard lag now on the 6 Plus.

The general consensus seems to be that the metal in iOS 9 seems to have more of an effect in apps. Safari scrolling and tabs seems much smoother to me too. There are other apps where I noticed that too.
However there are still apps that run the same, for example the video app still has the same initial stutter and lag when scrolling trough your movies.

I think people fall into the same trap every year.
iOS 6.0 is the worst release ever, it has so many bugs. A Year later its the best and smoothest OS ever.
iOS 7.0 is the worst release ever, its so slow etc. 8 months later iOS 7.1 is godly and the benchmark for all later updates.
iOS 8.0 is the worst update ever, its so bad etc. 10 months later 8.4 is buttery smooth and the benchmark for all iOS updates.

Lets be brutally honest here, excluding the performance issues iOS 9 is the most stable and bug free please in years, and that includes iOS 6. And we are talking about the .0 version.

And one shouldn't have to expect anything else than 9.0 to run better than 7.0 or 8.0 ever did. They were complete overhauls in terms of visuals and APIs. 9.0 was supposed to be a polished version that would improve performance and fix bugs from previous releases.

There's absolutely no reason for any customer to upgrade from a solid version, which is 8.4.1 (which took a long time) to an inferior experience with less stability and stuttering.

9.1 will hopefully be released in the coming weeks, but that still doesn't seem to solve the lag/stuttering of the app switcher. Apple never adressed the lag of the weather app during the entire life of iOS 8, so I sincerely hope that won't be the case of iOS 9.

My app switcher is pretty smooth, I don't know what you guys are doing. Once in a while iOS chokes, but it has been doing that since 7. Overall iOS 9 runs pretty smooth. It's also not inferior to 8.4, it fixed so many bugs left over the years, and has the same stability if not better than 8.

 

[crashoverride77]

I will say some things have gotten better. Switching tabs in safari is smoother and replying to a message via the lock screen has no keyboard lag now on the 6 Plus.

The general consensus seems to be that the metal in iOS 9 seems to have more of an effect in apps. Safari scrolling and tabs seems much smoother to me too. There are other apps where I noticed that too.
However there are still apps that run the same, for example the video app still has the same initial stutter and lag when scrolling trough your movies.

I think people fall into the same trap every year.
iOS 6.0 is the worst release ever, it has so many bugs. A Year later its the best and smoothest OS ever.
iOS 7.0 is the worst release ever, its so slow etc. 8 months later iOS 7.1 is godly and the benchmark for all later updates.
iOS 8.0 is the worst update ever, its so bad etc. 10 months later 8.4 is buttery smooth and the benchmark for all iOS updates.

Lets be brutally honest here, excluding the performance issues iOS 9 is the most stable and bug free please in years, and that includes iOS 6. And we are talking about the .0 version.

I disagree. The device might not be underpowered on paper but if there is no possible way of running software on it that doesn't lag to some extent then it's a fair argument to say it's underpowered.

Which is why I said its underpowered relative to the software. Spec for spec comparison and it's pretty fast but IMO that's more of a spec war argument the other side of the fence (Android) always argues.

Well I say it has more to do with optimisation. Why do you think Yosemite run pretty average? Surely it's not because 2014 macs are underpowered.

 

[cynics]

Well I say it has more to do with optimisation. Why do you think Yosemite run pretty average? Surely it's not because 2014 macs are underpowered.

Because your not limited to Yosemite. You can install Mavericks in VM then ML, etc. Or boot camp Windows 7/8.1/10. Etc

Again relative to the software.

Plus unlike the flag ship iPhone a high end Mac still powers Yosemite well with brute force. Even mediocre specs perform well...much better then iOS 9 respectively.

But I agree with you about optimization. My only point is it's a fair argument for someone to say the iPhone 6+ is underpowered. It's clear at this point it will never be given optimized software it requires to run smoothly 100% of the time as long as it exist. Therefore it's a fair argument to say it's underpowered even if it's because of the software.

 

[iPad Retina]

It's so laggy on my 6 Plus running 9.0.1 I called apple all they said is its a software problem and the phone might need to be replaced. I think it due to the lack of ram. We should be upgraded to the 6S plus! It has 2GB of ram.

 

[C DM]

It's so laggy on my 6 Plus running 9.0.1 I called apple all they said is its a software problem and the phone might need to be replaced. I think it due to the lack of ram. We should be upgraded to the 6S plus! It has 2GB of ram.

They should throw in an iPad Pro too!

 

[chekz0414]

I can definitely feel the difference having upgraded from the 6 Plus to 6s Plus; the specs are in two different leagues with the 6s Plus being as powerful as a Retina MB at 1.1GHz

 

[iPad Retina]

Anyone ever receive a 6S Plus for these lag problems?? They keep saying its software!

 

[Tallgrass]

Inflexible ship date. Had to be ready by mid-August for the new phones, no matter what.

Apple should consider decoupling iPhone releases from iOS, like the Mac and OS X.

Bought a new iPhone 6 two days ago and updated to 9 right out of the box. First thing I noticed was big time battery drain, second thing was a stutter. Could have lived with the stutter but not the battery problem. Having never used 8.4.1 I went ahead and downgraded to it. So glad I did. No stutter and the battery has been awesome. No plans to upgrade again unless everything gets sorted out.

 

[C DM]

Anyone ever receive a 6S Plus for these lag problems?? They keep saying its software!

They even throw in an Apple Car!

 

[iPad Retina]

Bought a new iPhone 6 two days ago and updated to 9 right out of the box. First thing I noticed was big time battery drain, second thing was a stutter. Could have lived with the stutter but not the battery problem. Having never used 8.4.1 I went ahead and downgraded to it. So glad I did. No stutter and the battery has been awesome. No plans to upgrade again unless everything gets sorted out.

It's almost like they are forcing us to upgrade.

 

[C DM]

It's almost like they are forcing us to upgrade.

How did anything in that post, where the user easily went to iOS 8, gets interpreted as anyone being forced to upgrade?

 

[Imory]

How did anything in that post, where the user easily went to iOS 8, gets interpreted as anyone being forced to upgrade?

To be fair, the only reason he had the option to do it, is because Apple are still signing it.