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MRU

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Apart from used or off the back of a lorry, where does one buy a reduced price current flagship iPhone?
As for the 6+, I wouldn't want one for 50% off list. It's a half-baked effort and the 1GB of RAM is a disaster.
Yet with 1gb of ram it manages to keep more apps in memory than many handsets with 2 or 3gb. If that constitutes a 'disaster' we have very different definitions.
 

sunking101

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Yet with 1gb of ram it manages to keep more apps in memory than many handsets with 2 or 3gb. If that constitutes a 'disaster' we have very different definitions.

It keeps zero apps and browser tabs in memory, what are you talking about?
 

Cole Slaw

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One thing I'd really miss going from an iPhone 6/6+ to the Nexus 6 is Touch ID.
Very convenient feature.
 

sunking101

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You're talking absolute nonsense.

Close all apps and browser tabs.
Open the Ebay or Amazon app. Dial in a search. See something you like so pop over to Safari, open a tab and Google some reviews. Spend five or more minutes in Safari, then go back to your Ebay or Amazon app. Oops, it has reloaded and sent you back to the start, so you have to dial that search in again. Tedious. Find another product you like and then swap back to Safari. Oops, the tab has reloaded. Is this what you mean by keeping things in memory? Out of *one* app and *one* browser tab, it keeps neither in memory.

Likewise, if you open a Safari tab and go to say an electrical retailer's website. Dial in a search and start looking at products. See something you're interested in and then open up the Amazon app to read some reviews. Swap back to your browser tab and *bam* it will reload, taking you to the retailer's homepage and you'll have to start your search again. Multitasking at its finest!
 

MRU

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iPhone 6 Plus or Nexus 6?

Close all apps and browser tabs.

Open the Ebay or Amazon app. Dial in a search. See something you like so pop over to Safari, open a tab and Google some reviews. Spend five or more minutes in Safari, then go back to your Ebay or Amazon app. Oops, it has reloaded and sent you back to the start, so you have to dial that search in again. Tedious. Find another product you like and then swap back to Safari. Oops, the tab has reloaded. Is this what you mean by keeping things in memory? Out of *one* app and *one* browser tab, it keeps neither in memory.

#epicfail

Just did that. No refreshing at all. Uploading YouTube proof.
 

sunking101

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You're talking absolute nonsense.


https://youtu.be/GVkaY-F6Zhs

It keeps as many apps in background here as the Note 4.

That video showed me nothing to do with real world multitasking.

I believe you're meaning that you can open up a few low-data websites and quickly switch between them with no reloading. Yes you can but that's hardly useful. Make one of those sites a data-heavy one like a newspaper, and then exit to send an SMS or check the weather, then go back and the tabs will reload. In any real world usage patterns the 6+ keeps nothing in memory. The two generations older iPhone 5 reloaded apps and browser tabs way less readily, so if you think that's acceptable then great. The i5 reloads much, much less readily because it's a 32Bit device. It has the same amount of RAM as the 6+ but uses much less of it. The 6+ reloads more than any device I have used, and that includes my Android tablet which has only 1.5GB of RAM. How anyone can say that the 6+ is in anyway good at multitasking is beyond me. It can't multitask at all.

Oh and I've tried the Note 4. It multitasks MUCH better than my 6+, at least on KitKat. Apparently Lollipop brings reloading problems...

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#epicfail

Just did that. No refreshing at all. Uploading YouTube proof.

Please do. My 6+ reloads for fun, numerous times per day.
 

MRU

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That video showed me nothing to do with real world multitasking.

I believe you're meaning that you can open up a few low-data websites and quickly switch between them with no reloading. Yes you can but that's hardly useful. Make one of those sites a data-heavy one like a newspaper, and then exit to send an SMS or check the weather, then go back and the tabs will reload. In any real world usage patterns the 6+ keeps nothing in memory. The two generations older iPhone 5 reloaded apps and browser tabs way less readily, so if you think that's acceptable then great. The i5 reloads much, much less readily because it's a 32Bit device. It has the same amount of RAM as the 6+ but uses much less of it. The 6+ reloads more than any device I have used, and that includes my Android tablet which has only 1.5GB of RAM. How anyone can say that the 6+ is in anyway good at multitasking is beyond me. It can't multitask at all.

Oh and I've tried the Note 4. It multitasks MUCH better than my 6+, at least on KitKat. Apparently Lollipop brings reloading problems...

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Please do. My 6+ reloads for fun, numerous times per day.
Backtracking already are you? Bless

https://youtu.be/5gKZCMF29eE
 

sunking101

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Backtracking already are you? Bless

https://youtu.be/5gKZCMF29eE

The video is 'private' so I can't watch it. However, even if your video shows a one-off success if my phone can't do something consistently then I can't rely on it to do it at all. No amount of videos will somehow undo all the reloads that my own phone does on a daily basis.
 

sunking101

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Still multitasking

Tapatalk, App Store, Amazon, Safari & installing YouTube capture. Zero refreshes

Are you actually doing anything inside these apps, and are you actually browsing data-heavy sites? Just quickly flicking between them isn't a real world test and like I said, consistency is the key. I don't get reloads every single time but I do get them more often than not, much more, and therefore I cannot rely on a reloading not to occur. Having to copy and paste text I have input into a webform before I exit to check something is unacceptable, because if I don't do that I run the very real chance of losing my work. Everyone knows that the 6+ is chronically lacking in RAM, stop defending it man.
 

MRU

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Are you actually doing anything inside these apps, and are you actually browsing data-heavy sites? Just quickly flicking between them isn't a real world test and like I said, consistency is the key. I don't get reloads every single time but I do get them more often than not, much more, and therefore I cannot rely on a reloading not to occur. Having to copy and paste text I have input into a webform before I exit to check something is unacceptable, because if I don't do that I run the very real chance of losing my work. Everyone knows that the 6+ is chronically lacking in RAM, stop defending it man.
Stop backtracking... Yes more ram is good, but your OTT assertions earlier are clearly wrong. Stop being a drama Queen.

And yes I went into browser, followed multiple links and opened the page, searched Amazon, opened Tapatalk, logged in and found thread, opened app store searched for YouTube capture, installed YouTube capture, went back to Tapatalk and wrote post and flipped back to other apps to check content and no refreshing.

I'm not saying the phone doesn't refresh ever. But read your post earlier.. "Can't open one app and one safari page without refreshing!" you stated and clearly that is just nonsense.
 
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sunking101

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Still multitasking

Tapatalk, App Store, Amazon, Safari & installing YouTube capture. Zero refreshes

https://youtu.be/O27qwyR-4r8

Videos should be public.

I watched your video. Apart from typing a quick message in Tapatalk, which is a very low-data app, you didn't actually do anything other than a bit of scrolling. Like I said, you need to actually spend a good five minutes doing some real work inside an app or browser tab - real world usage - and then go back to another application to see it reload. I can quickly flick between apps and not get any reloads but to me that doesn't prove a thing.
 

MRU

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I watched your video. Apart from typing a quick message in Tapatalk, which is a very low-data app, you didn't actually do anything other than a bit of scrolling. Like I said, you need to actually spend a good five minutes doing some real work inside an app or browser tab - real world usage - and then go back to another application to see it reload. I can quickly flick between apps and not get any reloads but to me that doesn't prove a thing.
Your opinion is fixed. No amount of proof posted will change that. Do yourself a favour and buy a different phone if your unhappy. But the constant backtracking of your earlier assertion is getting comical. Let me guess, You're not wrong, everyone else must be..
 

sunking101

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Stop backtracking... Yes more ram is good, but your OTT assertions earlier are clearly wrong. Stop being a drama Queen.

And yes I went into browser, followed multiple links and opened the page, searched Amazon, opened Tapatalk, logged in and found thread, opened app store searched for YouTube capture, installed YouTube capture, went back to Tapatalk and wrote post and flipped back to other apps to check content and no refreshing.

I'm not saying the phone doesn't refresh ever. But read your post earlier.. "Can't open one app and one safari page without refreshing!" you stated and clearly that is just nonsense.

So the 10-15 reloads I experience every single day, the majority of which are merely a frustration but some actually cause me to lose work, they're not really a problem then? I stand by my earlier assertion, I cannot keep one browser tab and one app open without both reloading. I mean actually spending 5-10 minutes in each (doing real work & not just a quick scroll down the page) and then swapping to the other. It will reload a good 70% of the time. That to me is unacceptable and I cannot rely on it not to happen. A reload is more than likely going to happen.

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Your opinion is fixed. No amount of proof posted will change that. Do yourself a favour and buy a different phone if your unhappy. But the constant backtracking of your earlier assertion is getting comical. Let me guess, You're not wrong, everyone else must be..

The reloads I experience during my daily usage pattern absolutely happen and no, I'm not going to take anyone else's opinion that it isn't a problem. You say I should buy a different phone but my old iPhone 5 didn't have this chronic reloading issue, so why should I have expected the 6+ to? It should be a better phone surely? I'll be upgrading to the 6S providing it has more RAM, and if not I'll get the Note 5. This is already planned and I'm just counting down the weeks.
 

AppleRobert

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I am pretty sure you are the one I asked on the iPhone forum, then why the hell did you keep it and I am almost positive that you did even with the opportunity to return it.
 

sunking101

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I am pretty sure you are the one I asked on the iPhone forum, then why the hell did you keep it and I am almost positive that you did even with the opportunity to return it.

We're talking about the phone. Whether someone should sell it and go to Android is a different debate.
 

MRU

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We're talking about the phone. Whether someone should sell it and go to Android is a different debate.
Not in an alternatives to ios subforum and in a N6 v 6+ thread it really isn't. Especially as you brought all this up yourself. You opened the door...
 

sunking101

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Not in an alternatives to ios subforum and in a N6 v 6+ thread it really isn't. Especially as you brought all this up yourself. You opened the door...

Why? The OP asked whether he should get the 6+ or the Nexus 6. I advised getting neither and waiting for the new batch of phones in September. I also said that if he *must* get one now then get the Nexus...because the 6+ is a bit naff. I didn't say that all 6+ owners (myself included) should sell them and move to Android.
 

MRU

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Why? The OP asked whether he should get the 6+ or the Nexus 6. I advised getting neither and waiting for the new batch of phones in September. I also said that if he *must* get one now then get the Nexus...because the 6+ is a bit naff. I didn't say that all 6+ owners (myself included) should sell them and move to Android.


So we've gone from 'disaster' to 'a bit naf' ... I guess that's progress.
 

sunking101

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So we've gone from 'disaster' to 'a bit naf' ... I guess that's progress.

Well, it's a disaster for me because my usage pattern doesn't agree with the 6+. I do however accept that the majority don't seem to find 1GB a limitation.
 

albertfallickwa

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Which has longer battery life btw? I wouldn't want to drag around another Mophie pack.

My Samsung Galaxy s5 was the worst battery life ever.
 

MRU

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Which has longer battery life btw? I wouldn't want to drag around another Mophie pack.

My Samsung Galaxy s5 was the worst battery life ever.

6+ has better battery life than the N6. Indeed the 6+ is up there with the best in battery endurance alongside the one plus one etc. nexus 6 is no meek device when it comes to battery though, but the 6+ is better.
 
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