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mizxco

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I did that rather than what you did which was replicate his issue on the same beta and think it was a feature of all iOS and iPhones since the beginning and making OP feel stupid...

Bye!

You're the kind of guy that complains when the TV remote doesn't work.
and when the tech simply replaces the batteries,
you flip out and say 'You should have told me earlier'..
 

impulse462

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To prove my point, go on youtube and search "left and right speaker", only the left channel is heard over the speaker. Because whenever there's a mono situation, it will always be the Left channel.

Sorry for being rude, I thought it was well-explained with more than 17 replies.
Where did I ever say I'm listening in mono? Your mono thing has nothing to do with my problem. Let me give you an example so its more clear. I'm listening to a particular Beatles song. On the left channel I hear lyrics/percussion. On the right channel I hear guitar and bass.

Listening to this song under iOS 9 beta 1, I could hear BOTH lyrics/percussion and guitar/bass at equal volumes through the 1 speaker on the phone. I heard the same with headphones.

Under iOS 9 beta 2, I hear the lyrics/percussion FINE, but the guitar/bass are at a much lower volume compared. With headphones, they both are at the same volume relative to one another.
 

GreyOS

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You're the kind of guy that complains when the TV remote doesn't work.
and when the tech simply replaces the batteries,
you flip out and say 'You should have told me earlier'..
Hahah what? What gives you this impression? How is there a parallel between that and anything else that's happening in this thread? Lol, I struggle to believe anyone else will come away with the same reading as you.

Let's have a run through:

1. OP says - with some sloppy language, perhaps - that he can only hear one channel on his iPhone speaker on iOS 9.
2. Others, including yourself, continually mock him for thinking his iPhone has two speakers.
3. OP eventually gets across that he knows there is only one speaker but he would expect both channels through it.
4. You announce with great confidence that he should only hear the left channel and heavily imply he is stupid for thinking it should behave any other way
5. I let both of you know that this is not the case, that I can hear both channels mixed down to one on my iPhone with iOS 8. So there is probably a problem with OP's phone on iOS 9!
6. You imply my posts are irrelevant because I'm not on iOS 9, hahahaha....

This really is bye now!
 

impulse462

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Hahah what? What gives you this impression? How is there a parallel between that and anything else that's happening in this thread? Lol, I struggle to believe anyone else will come away with the same reading as you.

Let's have a run through:

1. OP says - with some sloppy language, perhaps - that he can only hear one channel on his iPhone speaker on iOS 9.
2. Others, including yourself, continually mock him for thinking his iPhone has two speakers.
3. OP eventually gets across that he knows there is only one speaker but he would expect both channels through it.
4. You announce with great confidence that he should only hear the left channel and heavily imply he is stupid for thinking it should behave any other way
5. I let both of you know that this is not the case, that I can hear both channels mixed down to one on my iPhone with iOS 8. So there is probably a problem with OP's phone on iOS 9!
6. You imply my posts are irrelevant because I'm not on iOS 9, hahahaha....

This really is bye now!
Totally agree, idk what this guy is talking about. I've been listening to songs over the speaker since the original iPhone and I've never noticed this problem, hence I made a thread here.
 

mizxco

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Where did I ever say I'm listening in mono? Your mono thing has nothing to do with my problem.


3rd time explaining now. iOS 9b2 outputs only the L channel to the speaker,
that's why the guitar/bass (that's panned to the right) seem softer now.
 
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impulse462

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3rd time explaining now. iOS 9b2 outputs only the L channel to the speaker,
that's why the guitar/bass (that's panned to the right) seem softer now.
Yes. You could have easily just said that instead of all this other crap you posted. I'm assuming this will be fixed by the GM.
 
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mizxco

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Let's have a run through:

1. OP says - with some sloppy language, perhaps - that he can only hear one channel on his iPhone speaker on iOS 9.
2. Others, including yourself, continually mock him for thinking his iPhone has two speakers.
3. OP eventually gets across that he knows there is only one speaker but he would expect both channels through it.
4. You announce with great confidence that he should only hear the left channel and heavily imply he is stupid for thinking it should behave any other way
5. I let both of you know that this is not the case, that I can hear both channels mixed down to one on my iPhone with iOS 8. So there is probably a problem with OP's phone on iOS 9!
6. You imply my posts are irrelevant because I'm not on iOS 9, hahahaha....

This really is bye now!

Wow, after reading that, we should really give you a trophy. Come back!!
 

SlasherKG

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I am on an iPhone 6 Plus running beta 2 and can confirm as well that it is only playing the Left channel currently.

I'd rather see it stay. It's the way audio has and should work.
Wow, that's a completely idiotic way to look at it.
How on earth would you accept only being able to listen to the left channel on speaker?
It should work how it has always worked and mix both channels when on the iPhone speaker.
 

impulse462

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3rd time explaining now. iOS 9b2 outputs only the L channel to the speaker,
that's why the guitar/bass (that's panned to the right) seem softer now.
If you go back and read the thread, you would clearly see you never mention the fact that iOS9 beta 2 only inputs thru the left channel on the speaker. As I said earlier, if you had said that one sentence I would have gotten the message.

Instead, you acted as if I was using mono only, when I never did, and saying that it's always been this way. Only in page 2 did you specify that it's a SPECIFIC iOS9b2 problem.

So it's not the 3rd time explaining, it's actually the first.
 
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mizxco

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Wow, that's a completely idiotic way to look at it.

I can see the benefits of mixing two channels into one, for the ease of every day user.
But in the professional audio field, mono (one speaker) = left.
Thanks everyone for attacking me because you disagree though.

if you had said that one sentence I would have gotten the message.

Most people got it immediately, I had to spell it out for you. I'm sorry I got a bit annoyed.

As to the history of this, I'm sure this was the case at one point, not sure when it became a stereo mix-down. Because I demonstrated before people to explain this exact issue.
EDIT: This was the case when watching videos using cellular on pre-iPhone 5 devices.

If it was so simple, you wouldn't have started this thread and ask the same question thrice.
 
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impulse462

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I can see the benefits of mixing two channels into one, for the ease of every day user.
But in the professional audio field, mono (one speaker) = left.
Thanks everyone for attacking me because you disagree though.



Most people got it immediately, I had to spell it out for you. I'm sorry I was a bit annoyed.



As to the history of this, I'm sure this was the case at one point, not sure when it became a stereo mix-down. Because I demonstrated this before in front of people to explain this exact issue.

EDIT: This was the case when watching videos using cellular on pre-iPhone 5 devices.

If it was so simple, you wouldn't have started this thread and ask the same question thrice.

I'm sure most people got it immediately. I don't care if the answer is convoluted; I have experience trying to find answers on forums. What I didn't appreciate was you mocking me if the answer was so clearly obvious, which it wasn't because I clearly asked this to make sure my phone didn't have a hardware problem, as I've had phones with hardware problems in be past.

Instead you make posts about how I was stupid that the phone only has one speaker which I clearly know it does. I just didn't put it eloquently in terms of channels. Another person corrected me in one line without incident, again which I'm appreciative of. Literally nothing you said on the first page was of use to anyone except maybe someone who works with audio equipment regularly.
 
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C DM

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I can see the benefits of mixing two channels into one, for the ease of every day user.
But in the professional audio field, mono (one speaker) = left.
Thanks everyone for attacking me because you disagree though.



Most people got it immediately, I had to spell it out for you. I'm sorry I got a bit annoyed.

As to the history of this, I'm sure this was the case at one point, not sure when it became a stereo mix-down. Because I demonstrated before people to explain this exact issue.
EDIT: This was the case when watching videos using cellular on pre-iPhone 5 devices.

If it was so simple, you wouldn't have started this thread and ask the same question thrice.
I'm going to second that most people more than likely didn't get it immediately as it seemed like something else was being implied all along until the specifics of it being new/different in iOS 9 beta 2 were actually brought up to support it.
 

Nyk0n

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Thanks for your response. With headphones, my music sounds perfectly balanced. With mono turned on and my headphones plugged in it sounds balanced also. When I unplug my headphones it sounds unbalanced again, mono on or off.


Thanks for your response. Yes I checked and it was centered. When music was playing through my speaker I tried to move it to the extreme left and then extreme right; there was no change in balance, it still sounded unbalanced. With my headphones plugged in, I can move it to the left and right and I definitely notice a difference and it sounds balanced when the knob is centered.


Yes, but I'm listening in stereo, not mono. Furthermore I turned mono on with my headphones in but I didn't notice the sound move to any channel. Same with the speaker.

I'm hoping this is just a beta 2 thing since it was working fine with beta 1. I said it might be in my head earlier but it actually definitely isn't. I recall listening to some music and playing guitar along with it a few days ago (beta 1) and it sounded fine. As soon as I listened w/ beta 2 I definitely noticed a difference. I can't blow out one channel of a speaker can I? (sorry I don't know much of anything about speaker hardware).


My guess is the music you are listening to has a heavy use of channel separation, basically meaning different sounds are constantly coming from the left or the right separately. Like for example a drum in left channel and symbols in right channel (for a rudimentary example) you are likely hearing drum but no symbols as it only plays left channel and not right channel out the single iPhone Speaker.

best bet is to give up listening through that iPhone speaker it's really only meant ringing and notifications. invest in a Bluetooth speaker or two if you want stereo sound without the wires
 
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