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Xiaomi no contest. The One plus two will be probably some cheap plastic build.

Xiaomi Mi Note specs:
Snapdragon 801
5.7 inch 1080P
3GB
16/64GB options
13 megapixels rear camera
4 megapixels front camera

370-450 dollar
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Xiaomi Mi Note pro specs:
Snapdragon 810
5.7 inch 1440P
4GB
64GB
13 megapixels rear camera
4 megapixels front camera

500 dollar
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Another device to look out for is the Meizu MX5.

Alot of people say Meizu MX4 copied the style of the iPhone 6 when they never saw the MX3. Their 2013 flagship before the the iPhone 6 was released. The MX4 had a good design and for only $325. My only concerns is really MediaTek and Flyme OS. But MediaTek have been getting much better over the years and we can always add a different ROM to replace Flyme.

The MX5 is looking to be metal and with micro-sd card. And another good value phone from Meizu is the m1 Note series. Both gens go for under $180. The m1 Note 2 isn't released yet though. I am fairly up to date with the Asian scene but the Chinese and Indian scene is still ahead of the Philippines market. I just barely found out about InFocus smartphones.

I knew about Meizu as far back as 2008-2009 before Xiaomi was born. I believe not Oppo/OnePlus will be Xiaomi's biggest rival but Meizu. Xiaomi vs Meizu will be the biggest Chinese rivalry the way Samsung vs LG are in South Korea or Sony vs Toshiba / Nintendo vs SEGA were in Japan..

The OnePlus Two may no longer offer the best value when several Asian phones with reasonable enough specs can go for under $100-$200. Prices have been dropping fast since the Nexus 4 (2012) that buying a $350 smartphone unlocked is no longer a bargain in 2015.
 

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The One plus two will be probably some cheap plastic build.

there are people who prefer plastic, me including (but shiny plastic look awful), and people who prefer that metal feels more premium than plastic. But plastic isnt a cheap build, it is a very clever material to use. Plastic will bounce, bend and deform when you drop your item, metal gets dents, visible scratches - yes, plastic gets scratches easier but they are not as visible as in metal - and if metal bends, it stay on that state. Metal cannot deform and come back to the same state. When metal get permanent damaged, plastic may also snap. The coin has two side.

and what comes to oneplus one, i have never kept a phone on my hand that feels so good. the back material was an excellent choice!
 
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The biggest issue One Plus will have will be to generate the same level of excitement as they did with One Plus One. Many early adopters - myself included who signed up before it was even officially announced spent months on their forums - jumping through hoops - listening to empty promises, later to become broken promises - hideous spamming campaigns and 'like' whoring all to get an invite - and in the end I can't say the effort was really worth it (not that it was a bad device by any means).

Many people burned out by this utter nonsense that dragged on and on - will not put themselves through that nonsense ever again. Will not sell their souls for a chance to order a phone yet again.

The invite system was and is terrible. To repeat it - means they haven't learned any lessons from the mistakes they made. They look to piss off more people yet again. To me I'd rather pay a little extra than to deal with that BS.
 

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The biggest issue One Plus will have will be to generate the same level of excitement as they did with One Plus One. Many early adopters - myself included who signed up before it was even officially announced spent months on their forums - jumping through hoops - listening to empty promises, later to become broken promises - hideous spamming campaigns and 'like' whoring all to get an invite - and in the end I can't say the effort was really worth it (not that it was a bad device by any means).

Many people burned out by this utter nonsense that dragged on and on - will not put themselves through that nonsense ever again. Will not sell their souls for a chance to order a phone yet again.

The invite system was and is terrible. To repeat it - means they haven't learned any lessons from the mistakes they made. They look to piss off more people yet again. To me I'd rather pay a little extra than to deal with that BS.
Completely agree. I spent so much time on those forums just to be able to buy their product. Never again!
 
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Yeah you got that right, I can't rock with OnePlus and that whole invite system. I had the chance to get two invites and I did and enjoyed the phone for a good while and then had a run in with the horrible customer service and that was it for me.
 
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The biggest issue One Plus will have will be to generate the same level of excitement as they did with One Plus One. Many early adopters - myself included who signed up before it was even officially announced spent months on their forums - jumping through hoops - listening to empty promises, later to become broken promises - hideous spamming campaigns and 'like' whoring all to get an invite - and in the end I can't say the effort was really worth it (not that it was a bad device by any means).

Many people burned out by this utter nonsense that dragged on and on - will not put themselves through that nonsense ever again. Will not sell their souls for a chance to order a phone yet again.

The invite system was and is terrible. To repeat it - means they haven't learned any lessons from the mistakes they made. They look to piss off more people yet again. To me I'd rather pay a little extra than to deal with that BS.

i think the invite system is only because they cannot manufacture phones as much as people will buy. what they could do instead of invites, they could use preorder system and some kind of a time table to show when about you get your phone if you place your order now...

the invite system was pretty clever and inexpensive marketing and hit the target audience well. but that new and mysterious thing is already gone. it is not a new anymore, it is more irritating...
 

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i think the invite system is only because they cannot manufacture phones as much as people will buy. what they could do instead of invites, they could use preorder system and some kind of a time table to show when about you get your phone if you place your order now...

We went through this whole discussion with One Plus before they even announced invite system - when it was just discussion and this was repeatedly shot down by them. 'Mike' who used to repeadtly refer to me as 'my boy' in responses & private messages (like I was being professionally groomed (seriously Dateline could have ran a piece)) - claimed they were incapable of running a pre-order system from a logistic stand point.

They basically have NO idea of how many units are being produced and availability as they do not control that. Heck we were hearing for a long time they had ramped up and were selling 'millions' on the forum - only for it to turn out after 9-10 months they had shifted only '500,000' and that includes their biggest market, china. They are the biggest company of bull poopers - and anything they say has to be taken now with not only a pinch but a shovel full of salt.

Seriously they had so many opportunities to listen to their community - the fact after an entire year of people HATING passionately the invite system they are still going to bring it back rather than as you say a 'pre-order' system which surely they would have got things into place - just sounds to me like they are still operating on a wing and prayer.
 
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The biggest issue One Plus will have will be to generate the same level of excitement as they did with One Plus One. Many early adopters - myself included who signed up before it was even officially announced spent months on their forums - jumping through hoops - listening to empty promises, later to become broken promises - hideous spamming campaigns and 'like' whoring all to get an invite - and in the end I can't say the effort was really worth it (not that it was a bad device by any means).

Many people burned out by this utter nonsense that dragged on and on - will not put themselves through that nonsense ever again. Will not sell their souls for a chance to order a phone yet again.

The invite system was and is terrible. To repeat it - means they haven't learned any lessons from the mistakes they made. They look to piss off more people yet again. To me I'd rather pay a little extra than to deal with that BS.
Lol, i signed up at that forum and I made two posts and i eventually got an invite but I never used it. I was also offered an invite before i got mine. Never bought one.
 
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Man this Type C port is spreading like wild fire.....
It sure is! I saw an article that within a year most laptops and phones will come with the C type USB port. So I think that is a good thing anyway.
 

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Hmm bit of a crystal ball topic. But I would DEFINITELY WAIT! Because the OnePlus Two has been confirmed as using the SnapDragon 810 processor and that chip likes to think it's the Sun because of how hot it gets, they say they have solved the heat issue in the new 1+2 but I would wait till people have tested that claim.
Sony said the same about the Z3+ and it still throttled heavily to reduce overheating, the new firmware apparently helps though.

I am very wary of any device using the 810 processor. And would wait for users veiws and reviews in the overheating problems before buying a device with the processor.
 

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Hmm bit of a crystal ball topic. But I would DEFINITELY WAIT! Because the OnePlus Two has been confirmed as using the SnapDragon 810 processor and that chip likes to think it's the Sun because of how hot it gets, they say they have solved the heat issue in the new 1+2 but I would wait till people have tested that claim.
Sony said the same about the Z3+ and it still throttled heavily to reduce overheating, the new firmware apparently helps though.

I am very wary of any device using the 810 processor. And would wait for users veiws and reviews in the overheating problems before buying a device with the processor.

It's supposedly 810 type 2 or something like that.
 

MRU

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The arrogance of OP to their customers. Look at Carl's response to people saying their new launch VR thing is a gimmick

https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...uct-launch-in-vr.318285/page-10#post-11650792

"Get #HYPE or GTFO "

He tells posters. They really haven't learned a single thing about customer relations and are the most egotistical arrogant folks .... Terrible.

They would have to pay me to ever deal with them again.
 
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The arrogance of OP to their customers. Look at Carl's response to people saying their new launch VR thing is a gimmick

https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...uct-launch-in-vr.318285/page-10#post-11650792

"Get #HYPE or GTFO "

He tells posters. They really haven't learned a single thing about customer relations and are the most egotistical arrogant folks .... Terrible.

They would have to pay me to ever deal with them again.

If you want terrible ... keep reading that thread and one that's linked from it. People are actually blaming the guy who Carl responded to. :|
 
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The want to kiss arse to possible get invites!!!
Seriously, some people need to get a friggin life. Its a damn phone and there are many others out there. All i did last time was sign up at that forum and i made two posts and got an invite. But, some need it NOW :rolleyes:
 
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Yeah, its like they need to indoctrinate and brain wash its customers ...

You want to join One Plus club

First Rule. Don't question us
Second Rule. Do every spamming horrible thing we demand of you and
Third Rule. Don't question us
Fourth Rule. Believe everything we tell you even if its blatantly a lie
Fifth rule. Don't question us
Sixth rule. If anyone else questions us - berate them publicly, we won't ban you or sanction bad behaviour ...
Seventh rule. We will ban people who question us - so don't question us.
Eighth rule. You want an invite?
Ninth rule. Then don't question us
Tenth rule. Sell your soul to us....
 

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I think if u value service and support between the 2 the iPhone would be a better choice
 

MRU

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Yeah but the new Xperia Z3+ also has that chip and it has still been overheating.
Yeah watch btekt on YouTube hands on with the Z3+. Really quite alarming how much its overheating - the camera modes are near unusable.

They really FUBAR'd the Z3+. Glad I got the Z3.
 

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Yeah, its like they need to indoctrinate and brain wash its customers ...

You want to join One Plus club

First Rule. Don't question us
Second Rule. Do every spamming horrible thing we demand of you and
Third Rule. Don't question us
Fourth Rule. Believe everything we tell you even if its blatantly a lie
Fifth rule. Don't question us
Sixth rule. If anyone else questions us - berate them publicly, we won't ban you or sanction bad behaviour ...
Seventh rule. We will ban people who question us - so don't question us.
Eighth rule. You want an invite?
Ninth rule. Then don't question us
Tenth rule. Sell your soul to us....

Wow, I actually want a OnePlus Two now. Good work, my boy!
 
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