See!
This is exactly why Apple is now deigning to listen to the customer. They get sales they know would not happen otherwise.
Would you buy if the darkest they had was the current Space Gray?
Manipulating the customer at it's finest!
/sarcasm
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
iPhone 7 killer features revealed!
- Thread starter Rocket Man
- Start date
-
- Tags
- iphone 7
- Sort by reaction score
This is exactly why Apple is now deigning to listen to the customer. They get sales they know would not happen otherwise.
Would you buy if the darkest they had was the current Space Gray?
Manipulating the customer at it's finest!
/sarcasm
Sure. And the people that buy purely on specs are destined to always be unhappy.
What difference does it make if the phone has more onboard RAM, or more resolution on the display, if the experience of using the phone sucks, or if it doesn't cross-platform integrate seamlessly, etc?
I get it that other phones out there have a better display. The phone and its experience still suck. When the iPhone improves its display, it'll be great because I don't have to give up the rich experience I get across all my services to get that better display.
I don't chase specs because, while specs matter to a degree, they are not the defining factor of what makes for an efficient, joyful experience especially when you're using that phone not as an isolated device, but as part of a larger web of hardware and services.
I'm very happy with how it all works today. Next month, when Apple releases an upgraded phone, I'll be even happier.
Yep, it performs better, for a whole year. Then, because Apple only make phones that meet the minimum specs to run the latest OS that came with them smoothly, updates come through, and it starts to slow down. This is all a part of Apple's strategy - produce a phone that works well on release, and then deliberately lower the performance to force you to buy a new phone. This is the REAL reason that iPhones have 2 gb of memory, and a 2 core processor. Apple know that if they put a proper 8 core processor and 4 gb of ram into an iPhone, it would be usable for considerably longer, that's exactly why they won't do it.
And if they put a nuclear fuel cell then people wouldn't even need to worry about the battery going out either.
Dude iOS 9 is working on Iphone 4s (5 years old phone ) :/. My iPhone 5 runs iOS 9 perfectly ( a 4 years old iPhone, and iOS 10 it's coming). What are you talking about here ? "A whole year" ? Funny.
The biggest defining difference between the tech of tomorrow, the tech of today, and the tech of yesterday is - THE SPECS. The experience of a latest model iMac, for example, when it is running a 5400 rpm hard drive absolutely sucks, so does the user experience of running iOS 9 on an iPhone 4s, of the user experience of a 16gb iPhone 6. Better specs are what give you your upgraded user experience. If you are interested in one, you are interested in the other whether you admit to it or not.
Can you imagine just how good the user experience would be on an iPhone with a 4k screen, with waterproofing, with wireless fast charging, 4 gb of RAM and an 8 core processor? That would be an amazing phone, and would be an absolute dream to use. Instead we get a 2 core processor and 2 gb of ram, which puts both the specs, and user experience that goes with them, at least 2 years behind where they could be.
Last edited:
The biggest difference between tomorrow and today is the software. Look at Windows 10 for example. Runs on old and new hardware with virtually the same form and function except for speed.
hardware does not define Apple, the integration of hardware and software in a meaningful way defines an iPhone, which holds its own against phones just being released almost a year later.
My 2 year old iPhone 6 on iOS 9.3.4 begs to differ, as does my family's iPad 3 on 9.3.4 and a number of individuals I know with iPhone 4s and 5 models. Apple can create the most powerful and efficient mobile processors in the world having only a dual core and 2 GB of RAM. Back in 2011, the first Dual Core A5 came out and it is still receiving software updates to this day. I don't see how only making super powerful and efficient dual core processors is hindering them if they can still perform well 5 years later. Also, the A9 will probably outlast many of the devices with a Snapdragon 820 in terms of lonng term performance.
I see a lot of people mentioning specs and user experience as reasons people buy iphones, but what about reasons to upgrade?
I'm just sitting here wondering what compelling feature or reason Apple can possibly give me to want to upgrade at this point.
Perhaps I'm not the target audience. Perhaps they have always targeted either other platform converts or folks with 2+ year old iPhones. Regardless I have been given a reason every year to upgrade. I just don't see it this year.
I'm just sitting here wondering what compelling feature or reason Apple can possibly give me to want to upgrade at this point.
Perhaps I'm not the target audience. Perhaps they have always targeted either other platform converts or folks with 2+ year old iPhones. Regardless I have been given a reason every year to upgrade. I just don't see it this year.
Last edited:
Certain people get too caught up on BS tech lingo that generally does nothing to describe a device, but actually hides the truth of what it is like.
Apple will throw this lingo in your face and the weak minded fall victim to it. Remember Retina? Who cares how bad the screen looks, it's got "Retina!" Again BS made up tech lingo over an accurate description based on accepted tech terms. Finally, Apple are realising that the ruse is up and people aren't falling for this crap anymore.
Is the current iPhone screen subpar? YES IT IS!! Enter 4K screens on smartphones, a vital step in bringing VR to the marketplace though cellphones, which are now powerful enough to provide a great experience. Yet again, the public is wising up and Apple still hasn't provided a decent display.
We are all different. Buy based on BS tech lingo, if that is what interests you. I don't fault people for that. Just don't be baffled why I or others prefer Android phones, with their vastly superior specs
Ah, the old specs debate. Personally speaking, I wouldn't mind an iPhone with overall better specs than the competition. Nothing wrong with Apple being number 1 in all categories...from camera to screen quality. And there's nothing wrong with an iPhone that's waterproof and has wireless charging. But whatev, that's just me.
Right now, I'm debating between the Note 7, iPhone 7, or waiting until Feb/March of next year and getting the S8 (rumored to be an absolute beast) But Apple, please please let the space black iPhone be a legit thing
or even that dark blue color
Right now, I'm debating between the Note 7, iPhone 7, or waiting until Feb/March of next year and getting the S8 (rumored to be an absolute beast) But Apple, please please let the space black iPhone be a legit thing
or even that dark blue color
Well, sure. And everything improvement someone piles on costs money, takes up space, etc. Adding all that stuff previously would've put the iPhone up into another price bracket.
I'd also love to have the 'Her' OS on my phone, but I'll have to wait for that, too.
I agree with you to a point. Marketing terms/jargon would be more accurate in my opinion. One shouldn't buy anything merely based on them. Weak minded people or those that don't do research fall victim to them all the time. That shouldn't be confused with specs, which the person generally does do a lot of research.
Completely irrelevant to my post though.
I clearly said "user experience". You brought up marketing jargon like retina, not me.
Quote me when it's on topic to what I'm saying instead of wasting my time. And what's with the quasi echolalia? You sound like a child.
Trying to claim an iPhone 4s or 5 runs iOS 9.3.4 well is stretching it at best. These are fantastic phone to illustrate just how slow iOS becomes. On the 5 the current version of iOS is laggy as hell, and on the 4s it's borderline unusable. Even the 5s and 6 are showing signs of slowdown.
I don't see "laggy as hell" on an iphone 5 running 9.3.4. I'll give you we have different definitions of "laggy as hell", which is what makes the world go around. What works for you, may or may not work for me and vice-versa.
You have to remember that people on forums do not represent the average person. Companies build phones for the average person, who has very little knowledge of specs.
I would say about 90% of the people that I know own iPhones and the other 10% Android. The only thing the vast majority care about (besides it working) is battery life. I think Apple has found a balance between having a beautiful screen (maybe not as nice as 4K), fast processing power and a battery that will last most people all day.
If they didn't build a phone to suit the average consumer, they wouldn't have sold a billion of them.
I would say about 90% of the people that I know own iPhones and the other 10% Android. The only thing the vast majority care about (besides it working) is battery life. I think Apple has found a balance between having a beautiful screen (maybe not as nice as 4K), fast processing power and a battery that will last most people all day.
If they didn't build a phone to suit the average consumer, they wouldn't have sold a billion of them.
I own a 6 and have a 5s in my household, both running 9.3.4. No "signs of slowdown".
It really is sad when you think about it that Apple is no longer class leading as it used to be.Back in 2010 it was class leading in nearly every category.Now it's just copying the competition and the fans don't realise it.
For example,the iPhone does not need more than 1gb and android is a inefficient os and hence it needs 4 gigs and suddenly when Apple starts using 4gb it's a minimum requirement
Same goes for OLED.According to some its crap because Samsung uses it and is not Color accurate with pen tile layout.That same OLED is about to be revolutionary once it's placed on the iPhone 8
For example,the iPhone does not need more than 1gb and android is a inefficient os and hence it needs 4 gigs and suddenly when Apple starts using 4gb it's a minimum requirement
Same goes for OLED.According to some its crap because Samsung uses it and is not Color accurate with pen tile layout.That same OLED is about to be revolutionary once it's placed on the iPhone 8
On both my Air 2 and iPhone 6 there has been an significant slowdown since iOS 8.My iPad Pro is unaffected since iOS 9 Prolly coz of planned obsolescence policy and iPad Pro is Apple's latest tablet
This is true.The fact that they release a atrociously handicapped 16GB model says it all?Who was the moron who thought 4k and 16 gigs would meld together?A couple of music games and videos and it's down to 2 gigs and all you get is like a whopping 3 minutes of 4K on the iPhone .Really smart decision TimmyThey sure do care about the balance at Apple, of their checkbooks of course!