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I7guy

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Nov 30, 2013
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Gotta be in it to win it
"Never" is a very big word. As I said much earlier in one of these threads, while the DSLR will always have more room than a phone, the phone camera will eventually get good enough that it will not matter to our eyes. Yes there are optical limitations, but Apple, Sony, and Samsung are spending serious money looking for ways around this.

Earlier, I suggested using two or more cameras and interpolating the data to get a better image in that form factor. A while later, Apple purchased a company that had developed a way to do so and I posted that link also.

I think DSLRs are safe for now, even from mirrorless, which are much, much closer. But the day is still coming, and missing out on obvious features like wifi control or deliberately limiting the shutter speed won't help there case any. The iPhone is great at taking snapshots in bright light. Give it that, and it will look really good. More challenging situations will reveal weaknesses.

its more that the public is being "instagrammed down". The iPhone definitely is, for the most part, good enough and will get better over time. But the big, bulky cameras are not going away anytime soon.
 
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Meister

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I think DSLRs are safe for now, even from mirrorless, which are much, much closer.
Mirrorless will outrun dslrs very, very soon.

However that doesn't mean that all our dslrs will stop working.

I have purchased a total of three cameras in my entire life and don't get peoples attitude of "upgrading" all the time. FF DSLRs sold today (at least the Nikon ones ;)) are so good that they can only marginaly improve on IQ. Unless you have some weird need for super high iso and lots of megapixels. If you can't get the shot with your D700, you also won't get it with a D600, D750 or D810 ...
 
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Apple fanboy

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Mirrorless will outrun dslrs very, very soon.

However that doesn't mean that all our dslrs will stop working.

I have purchased a total of three cameras in my entire life and don't get peoples attitude of "upgrading" all the time. FF DSLRs sold today (at least the Nikon ones ;)) are so good that they can only marginaly improve on IQ. Unless you have some weird need for super high iso and lots of megapixels. If you can't get the shot with your D700, you also won't get it with a D600, D750 or D810 ...
But I here the D850 will have ISO 650000 and be 100 pixels. Surly I will be able to take better pictures of my cat with that? :D
 

sarge

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mirrorless....it can outrun a DSLR, but can it outrun A.I.?

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I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
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Gotta be in it to win it
Mirrorless will outrun dslrs very, very soon.

However that doesn't mean that all our dslrs will stop working.

I have purchased a total of three cameras in my entire life and don't get peoples attitude of "upgrading" all the time. FF DSLRs sold today (at least the Nikon ones ;)) are so good that they can only marginaly improve on IQ. Unless you have some weird need for super high iso and lots of megapixels. If you can't get the shot with your D700, you also won't get it with a D600, D750 or D810 ...
Nor then will you get the shot with your iPhone.
 

cwosigns

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While I think iPhone is ok for such things, this is really not a fair comparison at all.

You were swapping lenses - why? You couldn't do that on the iPhone. How did you handle that? Did you swap phone cameras? Did you zoom with your feet? Zoom digitally in post?

You could have done similar things on the D3100 and chose not to. So you put the Nikon in an unfair position.

Also, given your selection of lenses, you could have gone with a wide range zoom (18-200 nikon VC, or Tamron 18-270 VC) and not swapped at all while still maintaining the full range. Your shooting habits are not a plus or minus for either platform.

Also, outside in daylight is an ideal situation for current iPhones. It will do less well in low light.

I was swapping lenses because of my setup at that point: I only had the 18-55 mm, 35 mm, and 55-200 mm zoom lenses and each one is good at one particular kind of shot. What is the point of having multiple lenses other than to choose the best lens for each shot. Yes, I could have just used the 18 - 55 or 35 mm lens, but I bought the zoom to zoom.
 
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