Try reading the box is clearly says 802.11 b/g so why are you surprised it doesn't support 802.11n.
Do a little research before you buy a product and you wouldn't have this "issue". THe fact that the iPhone was only b/g wasn't hidden by any means.
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iPhone Does NOT Support 802.11n!
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Try reading the box is clearly says 802.11 b/g so why are you surprised it doesn't support 802.11n.
Do a little research before you buy a product and you wouldn't have this "issue". THe fact that the iPhone was only b/g wasn't hidden by any means.
on a 350MB file these are the speeds
802.11n-only 33sec
802.11b/g/n 45sec
to my mind the drop in speed, while distinct difference, unless you're in an industry that regularly deals with transferring large files (video, audio) you're never going to notice the difference, and if you are in one of those industries you should probably have gig ethernet. at the very least the simplicity of set up and maintenance sounds like a good idea for someone like the OP instead of two routers/networks.
If I recall correctly the standard for 'N' is not even adopted, its still in draft form...so why would Apple put it in a phone, especially their FIRST phone....just seems to me like they will wait for the standard to be adopted before they would put that in... IMHO
The iPhone is a revolutionary phone? It's all marketing, advertising, and money. They hype things up so everyone goes and buys it.
I'm sorry to say iPhone isn't close to the term of "revolutionary" never. There are smartphones that have way more features and blow the iPhone out of water.
802.11g and thats it. Deal with it now, or return it and SAVE YOUR MONEY. $600 for a "revolutionary" phone? Priceless
I'm sorry to say iPhone isn't close to the term of "revolutionary" never. There are smartphones that have way more features and blow the iPhone out of water.
802.11g and thats it. Deal with it now, or return it and SAVE YOUR MONEY. $600 for a "revolutionary" phone? Priceless
The iPhone is a revolutionary phone? It's all marketing, advertising, and money. They hype things up so everyone goes and buys it.
I'm sorry to say iPhone isn't close to the term of "revolutionary" never. There are smartphones that have way more features and blow the iPhone out of water.
802.11g and thats it. Deal with it now, or return it and SAVE YOUR MONEY. $600 for a "revolutionary" phone? Priceless
Lol. Show me one phone with this ui. Macs are nothing revolutionary if you look at the capabilities software and hardwarewise
LG Prada has a similar UI, and published it before the iPhone.
The UI isn't all that impressive either.
Dave--Why do you need to surf with your Iphone?
I know you want to because it is supposed to..but in your home with three macs do you really need to have your Iphone be able to go on the web? Just curious, I would just use on of the computers. Don't see the need for that on your set-up.
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I know you want to because it is supposed to..but in your home with three macs do you really need to have your Iphone be able to go on the web? Just curious, I would just use on of the computers. Don't see the need for that on your set-up.
Sam
I've played around with a Prada, and there aren't even any remote similarities. Other than the basic physical apperance, that is.
Actually, it doesn't support it for the same reason no one buys 802.11n routers/adapters for their desktops/laptops. Those components cost a *lot* more than their 802.11b/g counterparts.
Apple wouldn't increase the cost of production and decrease their profit margin. Especially when most wifi enabled areas are not 802.11n compliant.
Apple wouldn't increase the cost of production and decrease their profit margin. Especially when most wifi enabled areas are not 802.11n compliant.
Actually you are all missing the real problem here. Yes N would be a rather huge drain on the battery but the real problem is the read/write speed of the flash drive and the CPU on the iphone which actually limits the usable speed to around 2000kbps. So year why would you put wireless N on an 8gb drive which cannot support the transfer speed on a mobile CPU that takes several seconds to render a page compared to a few milliseconds on a computer. the flash drive is NOT ram it's much much slower.
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Hey man, it's still a great phone, but before apple puts N they need a faster flash drive and CPU to support that feature, faster transfer rate requires a much faster CPU/bus and probably some ram. All of these features would drain the battery very fast and make the iphone virtually a laptop requiring a much bigger size/battery. I think apple made some good decisions here, give them some credit and in a few years when they can fit a decent CPU/drive in there they will bump it up to N.
To Dave,
Hey man, it's still a great phone, but before apple puts N they need a faster flash drive and CPU to support that feature, faster transfer rate requires a much faster CPU/bus and probably some ram. All of these features would drain the battery very fast and make the iphone virtually a laptop requiring a much bigger size/battery. I think apple made some good decisions here, give them some credit and in a few years when they can fit a decent CPU/drive in there they will bump it up to N.
Yes, it's a phone, and your lucky it has any wifi period, as most phones do not. Enjoy having 802.11b/g, as most phones have nothing. My Treo 700p had nothing.
What are you downloading on a *handheld* that requires high speeds and MIMO? That's what I want to know....
What are you downloading on a *handheld* that requires high speeds and MIMO? That's what I want to know....
what's weird to me Dave is that you keep stating that "it wasn't disclosed." did you bother to ask?
what IS disclosed is that it supports the b/g specs. that's it. that's all it says. B and G.
a .45 cal firearm is disclosed as being .45 cal. it would be, well, odd for someone to complain that the firearm couldn't use the box of .22 cal rounds they have at home and then go as far as saying that "it wasn't disclosed" that you couldn't.
also, changing your router to a hybrid mode is not a problem for your business. the problem is that you won't be able to stream your videos to two tv's at the same time. it's your call as to what's important, two streams or using the iphone with your wireless router. not really sure why penis size came into play (i'm smart you're not, i have a business and a phd, etc.), but fact is, you want to watch tv and surf on your iphone. well, go hybrid or get another wap. write it off as a business expense.
what IS disclosed is that it supports the b/g specs. that's it. that's all it says. B and G.
a .45 cal firearm is disclosed as being .45 cal. it would be, well, odd for someone to complain that the firearm couldn't use the box of .22 cal rounds they have at home and then go as far as saying that "it wasn't disclosed" that you couldn't.
also, changing your router to a hybrid mode is not a problem for your business. the problem is that you won't be able to stream your videos to two tv's at the same time. it's your call as to what's important, two streams or using the iphone with your wireless router. not really sure why penis size came into play (i'm smart you're not, i have a business and a phd, etc.), but fact is, you want to watch tv and surf on your iphone. well, go hybrid or get another wap. write it off as a business expense.
Question... What are you transferring between your other macs that requires such immense bandwidth? Distance, sure, is a kicker, but, honestly. It's not like you can save the files you open in Safari over the network, anyway, (as of v1.0)... so, really.. what's the point?
As shrimpdesign pointed out, perhaps you forgot to look on the back of the box that the iPhone came in?
If you're looking for possible solutions, you can return the phones, or buy an inexpensive B/G access point, set it to bridge mode, and connect it to one of the LAN ports on your Extreme. You'll have two separate wireless networks in your place, but they'll all be on the same TCP/IP subnet, so all of the devices can talk to each other. That option could be implemented for less money than the 10% restock fee on your iPhone.
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As shrimpdesign pointed out, perhaps you forgot to look on the back of the box that the iPhone came in?daveporter said:
Actually I'm with daveporter on this. It may say wireless b/g on the box and in the online tech specs page, and if you ask the Apple or AT&T reps what wireless protocols it supports, they'll tell you b and g, but nowhere does it say explicitly that it doesn't support wireless N. I smell class action lawsuit ...
Uh, "nowhere does it say that it doesn't support wireless N"??? Last time I checked, companies didn't have to say every single possible feature that was missing from their products. It doesn't explicitly say that it doesn't do HSDPA, either. Nor 802.11a, nor UTMS, nor Ultra WideBand, nor Wireless USB... It supports wireless, and it supports USB, why doesn't it support Wireless USB?
Jeez, people... There was a rumor that it was going to support 802.11n, and you explicitly state that Apple and AT&T only claim 802.11g, therefore, nobody ever sold it to you misrepresenting it as 802.11n. You just believed rumors that the official source was disagreeing with.
P.S. The processor probably can't even handle 802.11n speeds, as speed tests for me show 2 Mb/s over my 8 Mb/s cable connection. (Running the exact same test on my MacBook Pro, I get 8 Mb/s.) The only downside is that you can't use it on 802.11n-only networks. In which case, just get another router, or turn yours off n-only mode.
Ok I'll admit I was disappointed when I found out N wasn't included but as everyone pointed out, in all technical specs it clearly states the supported wifi versions - apparently I just overlooked them definitely can't blame anyone but myself for this oversight.
definitely can't blame anyone but myself for this oversight.
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