iPhone is behind the times

[michael.lauden]

oh i thought this thread would be talking about how the iPhone didn't completely revolutionize mobile phones.

 

[sinsin07]

I couldn't disagree more, TheSpaz is in a category of his own.

+1

Could not agree more!!! These days I do my best to stay away from anything that has the stamp of TheSpaz. I don't know why this person is so Mod happy.

 

[Jeffrosproto]

Didn't I say that it can't be a phone thing seen as the iPhone got 1 bar of edge and my phone (on the same network, SIM card out my iPhone) got 5 bars 3G exact same location, phone side by side. How is it not a phone thing?

Sounds like you got something wrong with your iPhone's antenna.
It is an iPhone 3G (or s), right?

 

[IronLogik]

+1

Could not agree more!!! These days I do my best to stay away from anything that has the stamp of TheSpaz. I don't know why this person is so Mod happy.

how one tard has a thread about him quitting the iphone and it having several pages just irks me. Now, if he was actually a voice of the mac community like Steven Frank that's another story. But... some finicky brat on a forum is just overrated.

 

[sinsin07]

how one tard has a thread about him quitting the iphone and it having several pages just irks me. Now, if he was actually a voice of the mac community like Steven Frank that's another story. But... some finicky brat on a forum is just overrated.

One of the most accurate statements I have seen all day.

 

[rrl]

Didn't I say that it can't be a phone thing seen as the iPhone got 1 bar of edge and my phone (on the same network, SIM card out my iPhone) got 5 bars 3G exact same location, phone side by side. How is it not a phone thing?

I don't know anything about Australia's cell service and I don't know the specifics of the devices in question, but is it possible that even though you have the same service provider, the devices could be using different frequencies and thus could be connecting to different towers?

 

[SFStateStudent]

Check with mommy and daddy before you jailbreak; remember, they are the ones paying the bills.....

 

[Wotan31]

My iPhone is currently been sent away to get replaced (ringer switch fell off) and so I am now using my previous phone. A sony ericsson K810i and what can I say. Apart from the lack of graphical games it can do everything the iphone can do and a bit more. I can run backgroud processes and I can have custom wallpapers, I can have custom SMS tones and the signal strength is pretty constant and I don't get call drops. Today my mum's iphone had 1 bar of edge and my phone had 5 bars of 3G. What is going on?

Anyway that is pretty much a list of what is wrong with the iPhone and makes up the a lot of my wish list.

Really the iPhone only has two things going for it. And a lot of negatives going against it.

For it:

1. It has by far the best user interface of any phone. But this is just a "nice to have" makes it fun sort of thing. A user interface doesn't actually *do* anything for you.

2. It has the simplest distribution system for 3rd party applications. The "App Store". You can get loads of 3rd party apps like youtube, ebay, pandora, etc. for many other phones, but they make it more difficult to download and manage these applications. App Store makes it easy.

Against it:

1. Lack of MMS. My 4 year old Nokia has MMS with photos, videos, everything.

2. Camera is complete garbage. My 4 year old Nokia has a 5 megapixel (yes FIVE) camera with a decent lens, focus, zoom, and a flash.

3. Forced to use AT&T. Lets face it, AT&T sucks. I get lots of dropped calls and dead spots where I did not with T Mobile or Verizon. My 4 year old Nokia is unlocked from the factory - pop in any SIM card you want and you're on any network you want.

4. No "background" tasks. Other phones allow tasks to run in the background while you do other things on the screen.

5. Proprietary connection interface. Nearly all other phones today use a standard mini-USB plug for data and for charging. Very convenient, particularly while traveling. Apple forces you to use their proprietary iPod connector.

6. Sealed battery. Some of us don't buy a new phone every 12 months. In fact, we keep the same phone for 4 years or more. That usually requires a battery replacement or two.

7. Closed development. If you want to write an iPhone app, you have to get your software "approved" by the App Store Nazi's. What if I just want to write my own custom app to help me with my job function at work - for ME - not to distribute to the public?? With iPhone, I'm SOL.

 

[sinsin07]

how one tard has a thread about him quitting the iphone and it having several pages just irks me. Now, if he was actually a voice of the mac community like Steven Frank that's another story. But... some finicky brat on a forum is just overrated.

Really the iPhone only has two things going for it. And a lot of negatives going against it.

For it:

1. It has by far the best user interface of any phone. But this is just a "nice to have" makes it fun sort of thing. A user interface doesn't actually *do* anything for you.

2. It has the simplest distribution system for 3rd party applications. The "App Store". You can get loads of 3rd party apps like youtube, ebay, pandora, etc. for many other phones, but they make it more difficult to download and manage these applications. App Store makes it easy.

Against it:

1. Lack of MMS. My 4 year old Nokia has MMS with photos, videos, everything.
Agree

2. Camera is complete garbage. My 4 year old Nokia has a 5 megapixel (yes FIVE) camera with a decent lens, focus, zoom, and a flash.
Agree

3. Forced to use AT&T. Lets face it, AT&T sucks. I get lots of dropped calls and dead spots where I did not with T Mobile or Verizon. My 4 year old Nokia is unlocked from the factory - pop in any SIM card you want and you're on any network you want.
Subjective, it depends on where you use your phone

4. No "background" tasks. Other phones allow tasks to run in the background while you do other things on the screen.
Agree

5. Proprietary connection interface. Nearly all other phones today use a standard mini-USB plug for data and for charging. Very convenient, particularly while traveling. Apple forces you to use their proprietary iPod connector.
Agree

6. Sealed battery. Some of us don't buy a new phone every 12 months. In fact, we keep the same phone for 4 years or more. That usually requires a battery replacement or two.
Agree, however because of the slick design, I would hate to see a removable cover where the back case was split in two. I would want to keep the smoothness of the back with any removable battery design.

7. Closed development. If you want to write an iPhone app, you have to get your software "approved" by the App Store Nazi's. What if I just want to write my own custom app to help me with my job function at work - for ME - not to distribute to the public?? With iPhone, I'm SOL.
Don't understand this statement. If you join the developer program and get the the development software, what is to stop you from writing the app and using it without submitting it to Apple?

You missed some other things, but they have all been posted before.

 

[wowipod]

LOL imagine if the rest of the phone industry felt that way,,,

They do that's why they made the Pre .

I don't know anything about Australia's cell service and I don't know the specifics of the devices in question, but is it possible that even though you have the same service provider, the devices could be using different frequencies and thus could be connecting to different towers?

Possible, I'll have to test that, but knowing Optus they won't have multiple frequencies as they barely can cover the 95% of the population they claim to with a decent signal.

Check with mommy and daddy before you jailbreak; remember, they are the ones paying the bills.....

Oh I have jailbroken, but I found it may have added value but again I say. Why do I have to jailbrake an iPhone to get the full functionality, when if I buy a 'dumb' or different phone I don't have to hack it to get proper and full functionality?

 

[sorchard]

Don't understand this statement. If you join the developer program and get the the development software, what is to stop you from writing the app and using it without submitting it to Apple?

That costs money. You're already paying a massive premium to have the iPhone, and you have to pay again to run your own code on it? (yearly?). You also need a Mac, which not everyone with an iPhone has.

This is in comparison to S60, where it is pretty much free.

 

[Pressure]

Really the iPhone only has two things going for it. And a lot of negatives going against it.

For it:

1. It has by far the best user interface of any phone. But this is just a "nice to have" makes it fun sort of thing. A user interface doesn't actually *do* anything for you.

2. It has the simplest distribution system for 3rd party applications. The "App Store". You can get loads of 3rd party apps like youtube, ebay, pandora, etc. for many other phones, but they make it more difficult to download and manage these applications. App Store makes it easy.

Against it:

1. Lack of MMS. My 4 year old Nokia has MMS with photos, videos, everything.

2. Camera is complete garbage. My 4 year old Nokia has a 5 megapixel (yes FIVE) camera with a decent lens, focus, zoom, and a flash.

3. Forced to use AT&T. Lets face it, AT&T sucks. I get lots of dropped calls and dead spots where I did not with T Mobile or Verizon. My 4 year old Nokia is unlocked from the factory - pop in any SIM card you want and you're on any network you want.

4. No "background" tasks. Other phones allow tasks to run in the background while you do other things on the screen.

5. Proprietary connection interface. Nearly all other phones today use a standard mini-USB plug for data and for charging. Very convenient, particularly while traveling. Apple forces you to use their proprietary iPod connector.

6. Sealed battery. Some of us don't buy a new phone every 12 months. In fact, we keep the same phone for 4 years or more. That usually requires a battery replacement or two.

7. Closed development. If you want to write an iPhone app, you have to get your software "approved" by the App Store Nazi's. What if I just want to write my own custom app to help me with my job function at work - for ME - not to distribute to the public?? With iPhone, I'm SOL.

Not going to address all these things but the iPhone exists in other markets than in You Arse of Aye. The rest of the world has MMS and do not suffer under AT&T.

You can actually do closed development, do the research.

And a camera in a phone is always going to stink. ****** lens, ****** pictures.

 

[iUser4Lyfe]

Jailbreak + iPhone 3GS = win

Game set match every ****ing time.

 

[wowipod]

Not going to address all these things but the iPhone exists in other markets than in You Arse of Aye. The rest of the world has MMS and do not suffer under AT&T.

You can actually do closed development, do the research.

And a camera in a phone is always going to stink. ****** lens, ****** pictures.

You'd be surprised, but I am guessing with the last comment you are locked in the iPhone world. Cameras on phones have come on leaps and bounds and the iPhone is stuck with a crappy camera. My mate samsung Touch phone has a very impressive camera and some sony phones have carl zeiss lenses.

 

[con500]

Dropped calls and signal strength is not a phone thing, it's in relation to where YOU are. Back at home in Yorktown, Virginia I have max 3G speeds everywhere, even in the closet or the bathroom. Everywhere. Here now, in the Shenandoah Valley, I have great signal strength, but not 3G. If you down a hill you might lose signal, it just depends on where YOU are. It has nothing to do with the phone.

I dont agree: and think this is a valid point the OP has raised. I too recieve a very poor signal (while at home) on my iphone but if i switch my sim to any of my old cheap mobiles i then return to full strength...the iphone is fine if i use outside the house but indoors i cannot sit down while in a call, and have to stand near an open window in fact i usually start a call by informing the other end "IF IM CUT OFF, i will call right back & if its important i go outside to place the call. While this is not everyones experience, it is most deffinately an issue for MANY iphone users as you only have to look in the forums to appreciate how widespread this is...and many have had their iphones replaced due to this issue

As for the other issues mentioned in this thread...Its swings and roundabouts really. In many respects the iphone is very unique and far ahead of its time & in other respects it is.. in all its glory, it has been (until recently) extremely behind the times with reguard to functionality IMO

 

[Pressure]

You'd be surprised, but I am guessing with the last comment you are locked in the iPhone world. Cameras on phones have come on leaps and bounds and the iPhone is stuck with a crappy camera. My mate samsung Touch phone has a very impressive camera and some sony phones have carl zeiss lenses.

Impressive in terms of what? Quality, heck no. Size, sure.

There's a reason why lenses are big and expensive in the world of photography.

I am thankfully not locked to a camera built into a phone. It's a silly convenience for ****** pictures. Sure they may be fun to use for the mainstream crowd for snapping a quick photo but that's about it.