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iPhone is full of inconsistencies
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"All in" is the brother of "all out" and all that, that entails. Some people live vicariously through Apple some thumb their nose at Apple. With hundreds of millions of customers some are bound to be unhappy.
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Nobody knows if Apple at one end makes random choices or at the other end has usability, focus groups that guide their choices; or somewhere in the middle.
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Not much excuse for that. It is not that they lack money or a way of communicating with each other.
I still wonder why my Clock/Timer app has a black background. I do not mind it being black but wonder why it is the only apps that is.
"No excuse for that" doesn't address the point. It may have been done or purpose or not. Purposeful inconsistencies?
While I still like iOS (for their OS base - linux and java ridden android), what apple used to be good at was making these changes and having great collaboration (remember steve jobs saying apple was run like a huge startup?), but that is getting more and more obvious with it not being the case quite as much anymore. Individual projects? Yes. Good integration and collaboration through effective leadership? Debatable.
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I don't mean that it is literally your fault. Sorry how I sloppily expressed my point there in a way that was too personal, I was running out of time to get out and get my car into the shop and I rushed my thoughts out. You're one of the people on this forum I actually am quite fond of. That's a poor excuse for my words but it's what happened and please accept my apologies. I have to rush out again in a bit with a friend, but I will try to compose this post with more care.
It's that Tim Cook has been focusing on pleasing stockholders like you, but in the wrong way. What he's doing with the product line (that we have been seeing in front of us the past two-three years or so, not what I think he's got in R&D) is eking out the profit in ways that are of little to no benefit to the customer. We talk about all those little things all the time on this forum so I won't rehash it now.
Steve Jobs of course was also interested in profits. But he put that goal in perspective. He knew that every other business out there was focused on stock value and forgot about the customers. He wanted to make products that would impact the customer in a positive way. When he wanted products made thinner it was because they were too thick to hold easily, not because he had some arbitrary aesthetic. Everything he had his engineers build and his designers design was with the focus on what would make the best end user experience for the customers. And because of that focus, we loved what we spent our hard earned money on and wanted more.
No, Steve didn't always get it completely right and no, even under his reign Apple could not please everyone. But they pleased a lot of us.
Now Apple is coasting on the reputation and loyalty it had built as a company that thinks differently about its customers. As time goes on more and more of us are watching Apple become just like everyone else, like Microsoft and IBM once was. All about the bottom line.
I think the IPhone 7 is a solid upgrade but there are issues with it. It's still better than most of the competition but Apple shouldn't be content with being just a bit ahead of the competition. That was never what Apple was about.
I think that right now they've got some growing pains and their products are in a bit of a holding pattern. But I think if they refocus on Steve's vision, which was always one for the long term, the investments and growth they are undergoing now may take them to another phase where their best is yet to come. But if all they focus on is making their stockholders rich, that's shortsighted and may lead them to the obscurity and mediocrity other large corporations ended up falling into.
Well, black clock app makes sense in most situations as people tend to set the clock in the evening. Black is easier on eyes on evenings than blinding white.
I happen to like it (I don't like any of the white in iOS though, except for Safari use), but it does make complete sense that it would be linked with sun rise/set. I actually thought that was very clever of them to do at first, and then I realized it was always black lol.
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If blackberry, Samsung and Apple fall who will be left? Xiaomi? So I dont know where people think the bottom line is the goal of Apple. the bottom line comes from doing what they do very well. Steves vision for worse or better is now history although Apple at its core is still be driven by innovative thinking.
Having said that I don't think Apple is coasting and they are moving ahead like they always do.
There's nothing wrong with looking for profit, but this is a thread about inconsistency in Apple's user experience of late.
These same arguments could have been used against Microsoft in the 90s, or GM in their heyday, or countless others. Claiming a company makes lots of money does not argue for a positive user experience or quality products.
I actually prefer the older one, I find that to better, what's odd, is that its very inconsistent and there's no way to change it back.
I agree. I was pointing out how well Apple has been doing when the poster said that Apple was "lost".
They are far from lost.
Lost is poor Samsung when the flagship phone explodes along with the new top of the line washing machines!
You do know you don't have to use any of the new feature rich capabilities in iMessage, right? I'm texting people all the time and am not using any of the new features. iMessage is working exactly like it did previously.
just as "inconsistent" as in the UK they drive on the left & in canada we drive on the right? right?
Stocks, calculator, voice memos and Compass are also black themed so maybe it's a way of testing the water for a dark theme?
I don't know where you're getting the idea of swiping right to delete from, because in Mail it's swipe left to delete, same as everywhere else. You can customise the swipe, but it still doesn't let you change it to swipe right to delete.
Safari doesn't have a menu bar at the top, so the back button has to go in the bottom toolbar. It's also different kind of moving back - in mail, back takes you from one view to another, e.g. inbox to all mailboxes. In Safari, it's taking you from one web page to another, it's not the same. If you open bookmarks in Safari, you'll notice the back button appears so you can navigate between the different views. The back button that takes you back a level consistently appears in the top left.
Hiding the search until you pull down makes sense as it's a secondary action, whereas in the app store it's always visible because that's probably what most users want to do, most of the time. I know I search for apps a lot more than searching for emails etc.
As for the Clock being somehow inconsistent, the design totally matches the Apple Watch app and Clock - black and orange. This is obvious when you show the analogue stopwatch in the Clock app, which has been redesigned to match the Chronograph watch face.
All that being said, there still are a lot of inconsistencies throughout iOS, but they tend to be individual design choices. Home for example doesn't really match any other app, but the interface doesn't do anything 'wrong', like putting a back button in the top right or something.
I only use the clock, and have those hidden. Still, not liking it, at the very least allow us to change the theme
True. I use it as I've always done but I'm having some of the new stuff flung at me by senders. It's a busier look overall. I'll get used to it eventually. It's certainly versatile.
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That makes sense. Especially if the rumors are true and they move to a OLED display. I'm using as many dark backgrounds and matching thematic elements as I can apply and as many dark modes as I can apply to my Note 7 apps. The battery savings seem substantial. It all looks nice, too.
Well, the idea is essentially the same, but the specifics are different--one is an OS level function and one is an an-app type of feature. They could be the same, but it's not really out of the ordinary for them to be different on some level.I guess
I just prefer the same action for the same function.