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Of course they use off the shelf parts. Everyone does. Even companies like IBM that design their own CPUs use other off the shelf parts in their final products. That's just the way the world works and always has. I'm an electrical engineer myself which means I design hardware all day. I use off the shelf parts to do that. That doesn't detract from the design process at all. When I said manufacturing, I was referring to contract manufacturing/assembly. IBM and Intel are not manufacturers for Apple, they're parts suppliers. There is a huge difference. It's like the difference between a construction contractor and a lumber company. The architect designs with the lumber company's material in mind, and hires a construction company to put the house together. The house is still fully the architect's design though. As long as he chooses a competent contractor and makes sure they use high quality lumber, it doesn't really matter at all who they are, they just need to follow instructions. That's all I mean.

In this case, Apple and Google are the architects. The difference is, Apple has been designing excellent hardware and user interface software for 30 years. Google has been designing excellent data management software, mediocre interface software and non-existant (consumer) hardware for <10 years. They've got a long ways to go before they can match Apple, in my opinion anyway. I sincerely hope they do release a phone and that it's excellent if for no other reason than that it will spur Apple on to make the iPhone even better. I'm just not optimistic that they'll be able to, at least not for a while.

Note: Before someone picks apart my metaphor, I realize that it's not perfect. No metaphor is. I think it gets the idea across.

Excellent Post. I understand and agree.
 
not sure if anyone mentioned this but, considering one of the owners of google is on the BOD if apple. I don't think he's going to develop a phone.
 
not sure if anyone mentioned this but, considering one of the owners of google is on the BOD if apple. I don't think he's going to develop a phone.

I agree, it seems like apple and google are in bed together...I don't see them developing separate items...unless of course the gphone would be for a totally different market running OSX also in which it would be half apple also. Kinda like when the car manufacturers get together.

Google might not have the skills to build the phone, but if they have a good idea, I'm sure they can hire a company that can make it just how they want it with a lot of input thrown in as well.
 
in 2006 I could post on MR, wile listening to music, in the middle of nowhere as I am right now? I would never buy a gphone, I only use gmail out of all there web stuff, and I just dont like the Idea of giving money to google, people say google will kill MS with with a web OS which, I think is a horrable idea, I just dont see them being good at anything other than web searches. :/
 
Everybody is saying they are expecting the gPhone in early 2008....doesn't that seem a little too soon, considering we have heard nothing about it?
 
the gphones will definitely give Apple a run for their money... but I have confidence in Apple as far as software updates and 3rd party applications are concerned. It's a great time to be a consumer :)
 
there will not be a gphone. unless homeboy wants to get kicked off the board of directors someway somehow.

as for someone stating they are only good at web searches I think we might disagree. Google is a great company and I can not wait to see what they can do. There stock alone speaks for it self.

as for a phone. we are not going to see it ever. sorry.
 
I do not see this happening.

First off Eric Schmidt, Google CEO, is on the board of Apple... I could go into it but thats just not happening.

Second, Google is known for its software!!!! What hardware has Google made???

Apple has great software, but is also known for its beautiful hardware it brings out, which by the way works flawlessly most of the time, and especially in comparison to other products.

IMHO, a close relationship/partnership/team up/ what ever you want to call it, between Apple and Google to make the iPhone get better and better, and future versions blow competition out of the water even more, is much more likely. Google can do what they do best, creating good software. Then Apple can do what they do best, putting their own great software along with Google's great software onto a beautiful flawless piece of hardware that attracts the masses.
 
My guess was that they wanted the concessions made, and then would never have bid past round 1 in the auction if it was allowed for them to do so. I am not sure about the auction rules. I know the spectrum auction rules can be insanely complicated/not conpletely public, so I guess we will just have to see what happens when the dust settles.
 
Then Apple can do what they do best, putting their own great software along with Google's great software onto a beautiful flawless piece of hardware that attracts the masses.

If the price drops, that is ;)

Otherwise I suspect the masses will continue using free (or nearly so) phones.

Thus all the speculation that Google would give away their phone, if they did one.
 
The "network" is already built. They are just trying to buy it (700 MHz auction). They also already have TONS of dark fiber in the ground.

What "Network"? they are auctioning the rights to the 700 Mhz frequency yes but that is only the right to use it. Nothing is built to take advantage of it except tv (channels 52-69). TV transmission is a totally different animal than telecommunication and any transmitters that are built currently are not a "Network". The earliest anybody will have access to this spectrum is early 2009 because that is when the change over happens (as i think someone else mentioned).

Is it possible that google has a plan for 700 Mhz? i think so.
Is it possible they will have anything ready/widely available in less than 2 years? Definitely not. Buy an Iphone.
 
If the price drops, that is ;)

Otherwise I suspect the masses will continue using free (or nearly so) phones.

Thus all the speculation that Google would give away their phone, if they did one.

Alright alright, maybe I was exaggerating a bit when I said "masses" haha.
But how many times have wee seen a cell phone attract this much in 30 hours (270,000)?
 
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