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And to defuse what this thread could devolve into ... I'm sure that very talended economists did the calculation of market share / lineup dilution / market elasticity.

Apple is not known for targeting the budget conscious, and the SE series always seemed to be a stopgap to get rid off extraneous inventory of undersold components.

Nevertheless, OS support and resale value do change the economics of the used market, therein lies the afforable iPhone.
 
But anything is going up in prices, specially housing, food, electricity, health care and other elementary things. And smartphones aren't anything special anymore, they all do the same, there is nobody standing out anymore. So believing you can add the inflation to your product is risky.

I think the 16e will not be a success, only way to make it successful is by sacrificing the more expensive iPhone models, because the big market is not into flagships anymore and people keep their money in their pockets. A real apple is becoming more valuable than some fancy smartphone.
 
I think the 16e will not be a success, only way to make it successful is by sacrificing the more expensive iPhone models, because the big market is not into flagships anymore and people keep their money in their pockets. A real apple is becoming more valuable than some fancy smartphone.

We'll see how the forays into home robotics will pan out.
 
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idk if you look at how absurdly expensive tech products have gotten, the iphone 16e being €699 isn't outrageous, I guess. You won't get any discounts on it though, you get what you get.
 
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iPhone 2G was $499 for 8GB version WITH A 2 YEAR CONTRACT. iPhone 3G was released for $199 with the same contract and a year later was sold for $499 without it. Which means the contract is equivalent to $400. It would put the iPhone 2G at $899, the same price as iPhone 16 Plus. Not adjusting for inflation.
 
I think iPhone 16E is every bit worth $599 at today's market value, but that's NOT a budget phone in our current day economy. A 16E mini at $499 is needed.
$499 in mid-2007 corresponds to $760 today.

But I agree that $599 is steep for a supposedly budget model. The iPhone SE 2016 at $399 would only be $529 today.
 
Why is Apple making a mess of us like Samsung
The discounted iPhone should be called iPhone SE 4 or iPhone Air (like all of Apple's entry-level models)
And the slim iPhone should be called iPhone 17 Slim
Apple, you have disappointed me
 
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