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Phones iPhone needs multiple sizes asap
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If you want all that crap then get an Android because that's what Android is, all that crap.
no worries, I thought that you just didn't read my post. And as far as my fragmentation argument, I was obviously not making the best comparison but my thought was that the apps on the nano are the same apps in other iOS devices but that the device's limitations make it so that other iOS apps wouldn't be able to run on it.
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I agree all the way. They should keep making the same size they have now, and make a larger "pro" version for the supernerds. That being said, I would bet actual money on them not doing this. At least not this year, and probably not for at least a few years.
People who want larger screens have a few very nice Android devices to go to. Samsung is killing it lately. I don't mind the screen size on my iPhone at all, but if/when I decide I want something bigger I know where to look.
People who want larger screens have a few very nice Android devices to go to. Samsung is killing it lately. I don't mind the screen size on my iPhone at all, but if/when I decide I want something bigger I know where to look.
I'm not sure why people try to even say loyal Apple customers like simple clean designs, like small screens, etc... Bottom line is it DOESN'T MATTER. We all know the loyal Apple customer will buy ANYTHING Apple puts out. History shows the fanatic Apple customer flip flops with their opinion when it suits them and Apple. How can anyone say otherwise. Although if the speculation is true, Apple is indeed following the competition. They are increasing the screen size of the iPhone. Something SJ and Apple have been against. They may also be offering a 7 inch iPad, again, something unlike Apple. So there is no doubt they recognize their competition and need to up their game.
BUT the typical Apple customer, will just move on to something else if they don't like the next iDevice. As typical customers, we ALL GET BORED with the same thing over and over. It's the Die Hards that will buy anything from Apple. And Apple has a lot of Die Hards. Now that smartphones have plateaued along with the maturing of Android, typical shoppers are seeing there are better/equal OPTIONS for their changing needs.
BUT the typical Apple customer, will just move on to something else if they don't like the next iDevice. As typical customers, we ALL GET BORED with the same thing over and over. It's the Die Hards that will buy anything from Apple. And Apple has a lot of Die Hards. Now that smartphones have plateaued along with the maturing of Android, typical shoppers are seeing there are better/equal OPTIONS for their changing needs.
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Having a small, simple product line is what Apple is all about. That is what rejuvenated them back when Jobs took over again.
Plus I don't think they are exactly suffering at the moment due to not offering enough choice.
Plus I don't think they are exactly suffering at the moment due to not offering enough choice.
Boy you iphone fanatics REALLy need to try a 4.8" Android phone. You just keep saying the SAME THING over and over. Won't fit in pocket, fragmentation, one hand use, better ecosystem, etc etc. After owning a S3 for 2 weeks, these arguments seem absolutely insane and completely naive.
In the pocket the S3 feels much LIGHTER than on an iphone. I'm 5'7" and can easily reach the entire phone with my left hand only. Fragmentation? Pff..in actuallity every single Android app that I wanted works flawlessly on my S3 - and I have now over 100+ apps. The apps just adapt to the screen size like they do in a PC. Ecosystem? Well, I was able to replace pretty much every iPhone app I had with an equal OR BETTER Android app, and I was able to easily sync my iTunes library to my phone with iSyncr. Not to mention being able to swap 64GB microsd cards and batteries and also have USB flash drives, SD cards, keyboards and a lot of other stuff work in the microUSB slot. And I'm not going to even talk about how utra cool it is to have an actual FILE SYSTEM and be able to see flash video in the browser, which works flawlessly despite all the kooky arguments against it (hey it WORKS without a hiccup and does not eat my battery excessively nor crash my system, and those are FACTS).
The iPhone is a good phone. But the screen size and lack of removal storage is going to put it at a disadvantage in the near future. Of course it will still sell and we all know WHY - look at the people defending this dated phone for some reason in this thread. But if you guys just kept an open mind and listen to suggestion like the OP had and push Apple to listen to consumer requests, the iPhone would be a BETTER phone. It just would. Until then, Apple as always will give you the minimum amount of new technology to get you to buy the new phone but hold back enough to make you buy the next phone. Come on - we ALL know that at this point. A slightly taller 4" phone? Give me a break. Note that this is with a different aspect ratio that woul fragment the market according to your own arguments, he he. But I guess it's OK when APPLE does it.
As for me, I cold care less at this point. The S3 is truly remarkable, for me at least. But be happy in your ignorant bliss.
Couldn't agree with you more. I'm a huge Apple fan but switched to the S3 and love the thing. Perfect size and weight for a phone. My main problem with Android was the OS was laggy and not very smooth overall, but that has changed over the past year. After having a phone with a larger screen I have a hard time looking at the iphone. It just doesn't cut it anymore.
At the rate these rumors are progressing, the next iPhone will be larger, so that will give two tiers right there.
New iPhone, and iPhone 4S...take your pick.
New iPhone, and iPhone 4S...take your pick.
I sincerely hope Apple does offer two sizes of iPhones.
Reason being screen size has proven to be a very personal choice.
It would make consumers happy and I don't see how in anyway it could hurt Apple's market share in the phone business.
Win-win.
Reason being screen size has proven to be a very personal choice.
It would make consumers happy and I don't see how in anyway it could hurt Apple's market share in the phone business.
Win-win.
I'd really like a larger screen.
BUT I tried out the SG3 and it's still laggy. Feels utterly crappy and cheap. And has an over saturated cartoon looking joke of a screen.
Not to mention it would take a lot to get me to buy all my apps again and reorganise my life for a new system.
The iPhone still seems much further ahead as far as high quality design and smooth interface.
And I don't mind jailbreaking to get extra functionality. Which seems to be 98% of the Android argument.
I just want an iPhone with a much larger screen. It seems like a ton of other people do too. That's not to say that I expect it'll happen.
BUT I tried out the SG3 and it's still laggy. Feels utterly crappy and cheap. And has an over saturated cartoon looking joke of a screen.
Not to mention it would take a lot to get me to buy all my apps again and reorganise my life for a new system.
The iPhone still seems much further ahead as far as high quality design and smooth interface.
And I don't mind jailbreaking to get extra functionality. Which seems to be 98% of the Android argument.
I just want an iPhone with a much larger screen. It seems like a ton of other people do too. That's not to say that I expect it'll happen.
Apple followers usually play back the company line.
If Apple makes it, they proclaim it magical. If Apple condems it, they back them & say the same.
If later Apple changes their mind, the followers do a u-turn and loudly agree.
Apples about being dictatorial & closed. Opinionated and inflexible.
I really like the great majority of Apple products, it's the frequent episodes of hypocrisy that are a glaring characteristic of Apples operation.
If we can have size choices in laptops, we can have just two iPhones. Small & large. The weak & well worn excuse of how hard it would be on developers is pure BS. Apple sells in such massive quantities, the developers would fall all over themselves to create apps.
Besides, since when does Apple care about anyone they do business with except to grind them for the lowest pricing. They're learning from Walmart.
Apple let's their ego get in the way. If Android didn't have large spacious displays, Apple would introduce them in the same way they always do. Claiming they're Magical & Revolutionary. The masters of smoke & mirrors marketing rules through high volume & fat margins.
The possibilities are endless, but only if Apple says so. Once they offer it, the Apple faithful go out of their way to elevate it to religion.
It's a very successful formula. I give Apple a lot of credit for amassing the amazing amount of control they have over their user base, and general public.
If Apple makes it, they proclaim it magical. If Apple condems it, they back them & say the same.
If later Apple changes their mind, the followers do a u-turn and loudly agree.
Apples about being dictatorial & closed. Opinionated and inflexible.
I really like the great majority of Apple products, it's the frequent episodes of hypocrisy that are a glaring characteristic of Apples operation.
If we can have size choices in laptops, we can have just two iPhones. Small & large. The weak & well worn excuse of how hard it would be on developers is pure BS. Apple sells in such massive quantities, the developers would fall all over themselves to create apps.
Besides, since when does Apple care about anyone they do business with except to grind them for the lowest pricing. They're learning from Walmart.
Apple let's their ego get in the way. If Android didn't have large spacious displays, Apple would introduce them in the same way they always do. Claiming they're Magical & Revolutionary. The masters of smoke & mirrors marketing rules through high volume & fat margins.
The possibilities are endless, but only if Apple says so. Once they offer it, the Apple faithful go out of their way to elevate it to religion.
It's a very successful formula. I give Apple a lot of credit for amassing the amazing amount of control they have over their user base, and general public.
I dont understand why people come onto iPhone forums and boast about how the latest Android phone blows the iPhone away, or about how Android offers more features and is more customizable or how Android has bigger screens and blah blah blah. If we wanted all of that, we would have an Android. But we have iPhones. It's all falling on deaf ears because we don't care about your Android. But it seems that you guys care an awful lot about iPhones to take the time to obsessively post on a forum and try and convince us that your phone is better than ours. If you like your phone, that's great. I like my phone too. We obviously have different wants/likes.
And to be honest, I am no Apple "fan boy" or whatever they are called. I have a 2009 Dell Laptop, a Phillips Mp3 player, and my 4S is the first iPhone I have ever had. I appreciate Apple because they are independent. You can find nearly any other phone maker with an Android phone, makes it a bit generic.
You just cant beat the iPhone when it comes to simplicity, the user interface/experience, the ease of use, and last but not least it's sleek, beautiful shell.
I'm loving my jailbroken 4S. I can do loads with it. I don't even look at Android phones and wish I had one to be honest. I am not saying they are inferior, just not for me.
And to be honest, I am no Apple "fan boy" or whatever they are called. I have a 2009 Dell Laptop, a Phillips Mp3 player, and my 4S is the first iPhone I have ever had. I appreciate Apple because they are independent. You can find nearly any other phone maker with an Android phone, makes it a bit generic.
You just cant beat the iPhone when it comes to simplicity, the user interface/experience, the ease of use, and last but not least it's sleek, beautiful shell.
I'm loving my jailbroken 4S. I can do loads with it. I don't even look at Android phones and wish I had one to be honest. I am not saying they are inferior, just not for me.
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I think your credibility was shot once you boasted of not trusting Apple since Wozniak was there...which I am sure predates your first Mac purchase which according you was in the 90's...
Apple does flip flop their stance. But it's just the name of the game. They may speak out against a certain tech at first because they have to justify their reasons for not using it. Then they sit back and let other companies do the R&D for them. They see what works and what doesn't. Then they make it their own, give it a new name, and sell it. I believes this to be true when it comes to the screen size as well. Apple is rarely the first to do something, but they are often the first to make a newer tech viable and marketable. There are exceptions of course but in general I think there philosophy is to let people experience tech one way, and them introduce them to a newer, streamlined version.
I would disagree that the 3 different models are 'choices'. They're older, outdated models that are cheaper. No one would 'prefer' the older models over the new if they weren't $.99.
Storage and colors I would agree with.
Boy you iphone fanatics REALLy need to try a 4.8" Android phone. You just keep saying the SAME THING over and over. Won't fit in pocket, fragmentation, one hand use, better ecosystem, etc etc. After owning a S3 for 2 weeks, these arguments seem absolutely insane and completely naive.
In the pocket the S3 feels much LIGHTER than on an iphone. I'm 5'7" and can easily reach the entire phone with my left hand only. Fragmentation? Pff..in actuallity every single Android app that I wanted works flawlessly on my S3 - and I have now over 100+ apps. The apps just adapt to the screen size like they do in a PC. Ecosystem? Well, I was able to replace pretty much every iPhone app I had with an equal OR BETTER Android app, and I was able to easily sync my iTunes library to my phone with iSyncr. Not to mention being able to swap 64GB microsd cards and batteries and also have USB flash drives, SD cards, keyboards and a lot of other stuff work in the microUSB slot. And I'm not going to even talk about how utra cool it is to have an actual FILE SYSTEM and be able to see flash video in the browser, which works flawlessly despite all the kooky arguments against it (hey it WORKS without a hiccup and does not eat my battery excessively nor crash my system, and those are FACTS).
The iPhone is a good phone. But the screen size and lack of removal storage is going to put it at a disadvantage in the near future. Of course it will still sell and we all know WHY - look at the people defending this dated phone for some reason in this thread. But if you guys just kept an open mind and listen to suggestion like the OP had and push Apple to listen to consumer requests, the iPhone would be a BETTER phone. It just would. Until then, Apple as always will give you the minimum amount of new technology to get you to buy the new phone but hold back enough to make you buy the next phone. Come on - we ALL know that at this point. A slightly taller 4" phone? Give me a break. Note that this is with a different aspect ratio that woul fragment the market according to your own arguments, he he. But I guess it's OK when APPLE does it.
As for me, I cold care less at this point. The S3 is truly remarkable, for me at least. But be happy in your ignorant bliss.
Quite frankly, I think the S3 feels like garbage from a build standpoint, and IMO the screen is too large. I'm 6'2 and I cannot comfortably reach the entire screen with one hand. Ive been curios about it ever since it was launched and finally got a chance to use my friends for an extended period of time. It's a nice phone and I'm sure some people love it. But for me, wasn't anything special and definitely not even close to temp me to switch over. I'm more then happy being "ignorant" and waiting for the next iPhone. But either way, I'm happy ur enjoying it. To each his own.
Let's face it, if apple had different size ranges like OP said, then people would still buy it. People crack me up on this forum when they try to say there is no need for things like that but yet you guys would be the first ones camping out in front of an apple store if apple did have things like that.
Sorry but I don;t buy this. If you are 6'2" you would have no issues with using the phone with one hand. I have it in my hands right now and I can reach every element of the screen with my small hands. And why would your friend let you use it for "an extended period of time"? I can't think of a single scenario this would happen, unless your extended period of time is like 15 minutes. Because if you had it for several days, you would know that the build quality is absolutely fine and the iPhone starts to feel like a heavy brick in your hands and pocket. Oh well, I know I'll never convince these people to REALLY try the S3 instead of just folling around with it for several minutes. And I've had every single iPhone since the first through the 4S and stil have the 4S. I'm only saying what is true with LONG TERM comparisons.
That is a lot more overhead for apple. Look at all the parts salvaged from the 4 to the 4S. This was their "new model", if they do that for their new model then I can't imagine them making to different phones at the same time.
I have a 4S so I'm not too concerned with what they do. However I'd be more interested to see sales figures of the 3.5" screen model versus a larger screen model if sold at the same time. Finally put the "which screen size do people want" argument to rest.
My "extended" use of the S3 was long enough for me to know that I wasn't missing anything. And believe me, im not trying to bash it in any way. It's just not for me. I don't like the plastic, light feel. Being light isn't an asset to me when it comes to phones. How can u say that the iPhone is a heavy brick?..come on now. The iPhone is quality built. The S3 can't even compare at all. Not even a little.
And I don't care how big ur hands are. There is no way u are reaching the entire screen with one hand without sliding it down in ur palm a bit, or twisting the phone to reach it. Im all for a bigger screen on the next iPhone, but not that big. 4" is perfect for me. I'm unsure about the 16:9, but the more I see the renders, the more I think I'll like. We'll see. I'm glad u love ur phone. That's all that matters. I just don't really like it.
This is another of those straw man criticisms of people who enjoy certain Apple products
It continues to get trotted out in threads all over the forum when there is no real substance to contribute to a discussion
Just like both Technarchy and I said, if the next iPhone is larger, they will already have different sizes and then more choices for consumers. Because of this, this thread is going nowhere since Apple's future plans will make the OP's dreams of multiple iPhone choices come true.
I'm looking forward to seeing if the rumors of the headphone jack being on the bottom is true, because I think that would make sense for the way I use it.
I'm looking forward to seeing if the rumors of the headphone jack being on the bottom is true, because I think that would make sense for the way I use it.
Or maybe it is fragmentation no matter how much you don't want it to be?
At the end of the day, fragmentation is just a word. How the consumer feels about the product is what matters, right? What about the removal of other features? I can argue that if you buy the device Google intends you to buy (those which run stock Android), there is no fragmentation in Android, you will continue to receive timely updates, and Apps will "just work" as well.
My point? The fragmentation argument is so, so, SOOOOOOO overplayed by the Apple/iOS crowd it's not even funny. People love to use the fact that because Android gives you so many hardware and software choices, it is fragmented. To an extent, that's true. If you want to toss away that choice and get Google's flagship device which launches once a year (same as Apple) you are going to get a comparable experience in terms of the dreaded "fragmentation" and updates that Android is so often criticized for.