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iPhone Needs Scroll Bars!

BergerFan

BergerFan

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It's one of the things the iPhone UI is sorely missing. When in the iPhone app, and scrolling through one of my long playlists, It can take an age to get to the song I want. Yes, I know there's a search option, but it doesn't search via the playlist, only the library, or album the song is in.
Whilst using Apple's Remote app the other day, I noticed that when in the same playlist, there's suddenly a scroll bar!
It's also needed in Safari, when browsing a long webpage.
I know and have the QuickScroll app from Cydia, but that becomes useless in the iPod, because it requires you to tripple-tap, on something that isnt clickable(the whole list is clickable in the iPod).
 
What's the point of really long playlists? What's the point of playlists in general?

Am I the only one that listens to albums?
 
The General said:
What's the point of really long playlists? What's the point of playlists in general?

Am I the only one that listens to albums?
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The point of play list is choice. Listen to a variety of artist in the same genre or different genres, grouped together the way you want. Secondly, long play list can be used at parties. Yes, people use their ipods & iphones and laptops connected to a high powered system to run a party. Plug, Play, walk away. I've seen it, done it and it works well.

In regard to the scroll bars, I think its a good idea, only if there is an option to turn on and off in settings. We have to please the naysayers.
 
ozzyman500 said:
Down with playlists. Listen to full albums or GTFO.
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You're showing your age. The beauty of downloading music from Itunes is you don't have to waste money on a whole album when all you want is one song.
People want choice. You like to listen to one whole album, others want a variety.

I don't see the problem with scroll bars as long as users have an option not to use them if they don't like it.

Edit: You all ready have a gray bar going up and down in your play list, it just does not function as a scroll bar.
 
sinsin07 said:
You're showing your age.
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Excuse me? I'm showing my age? I'm only 25. I never saw the whole appeal to only download the songs you want. Sure every now and then I skip through songs but 95% I listen to the full album. It's a much better experience that way.

Also I was one to never listen to popular music either.
 
ozzyman500 said:
Excuse me? I'm showing my age? I'm only 25. I never saw the whole appeal to only download the songs you want. Sure every now and then I skip through songs but 95% I listen to the full album. It's a much better experience that way.
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I was just pulling your leg, just kidding.:) But on the much better experience, that is subjective, not a fact.
 
BergerFan said:
Whilst using Apple's Remote app the other day, I noticed that when in the same playlist, there's suddenly a scroll bar!
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I think you're mistaken about Remote. The scroll bar in Remote IS in the iPod. They both show you where you are but don't offer any control.

What you want is the scroll bar from Address Book.

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Small White Car said:
I think you're mistaken about Remote. The scroll bar in Remote IS in the iPod. They both show you where you are but don't offer any control.

What you want is the scroll bar from Address Book.

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This is what I mean, whilst in Remote:
 

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BergerFan said:
This is what I mean, whilst in Remote:
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That was strange because mine doesn't have that! Then I investigated the Remote App a bit more and found your scroll bar in other playlists! So, it turns out:

EDIT: It turns out some playlists work like your image and some like my image! I thought I had found a reason but it's just random as far as I can tell now. A bug, I guess?
 
jessica. said:
I disagree. I like the zoom and drag.
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It can have both. One is fun, the other, practical.

Apple originally designed the iPhone UI with scrollbars. They've said that the fingertip scrolling came along midway. Unfortunately, they threw the baby out with the bathwater.

It's really painful to scroll down to the middle of a long document. For that matter, it's not much fun doing the selection spinner to get down to "West Virginia" in a state list either. As a UI, it fails some basic principles once it has more than a relatively few items.
 
kdarling said:
It can have both. One is fun, the other, practical.

Apple originally designed the iPhone UI with scrollbars. They've said that the fingertip scrolling came along midway. Unfortunately, they threw the baby out with the bathwater.

It's really painful to scroll down to the middle of a long document. For that matter, it's not much fun doing the selection spinner to get down to "West Virginia" in a state list either. As a UI, it fails some basic principles once it has more than a relatively few items.
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+1

Precisely. I see too many posters here who feel because Apple did not include it, it's a bad idea.
 
I don't miss scrolling in playlists, but I definitely miss it in Safari. Scrolling through a long page can be painful, especially the third time you accidentally hit the status bar while trying to scroll and jump back to the top.
 
thelatinist said:
I don't miss scrolling in playlists, but I definitely miss it in Safari. Scrolling through a long page can be painful, especially the third time you accidentally hit the status bar while trying to scroll and jump back to the top.
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So true :D. Happens to me all the time. And while were at it, how about a simple way to scroll to bottom?
 
ozzyman500 said:
Excuse me? I'm showing my age? I'm only 25. I never saw the whole appeal to only download the songs you want. Sure every now and then I skip through songs but 95% I listen to the full album. It's a much better experience that way.

Also I was one to never listen to popular music either.
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some people don't like every song on an album. it's not that uncommon. I'm sorry I think Boulevard of Broken Dreams sucked from American Idiot (just one of many possible examples), but I don't want to listen to that crap. I'm gonna buy the good songs. and what if I want to listen to multiple artists, not just one album from one artist? Your "album only" plan falls through
 
blancoBronco said:
some people don't like every song on an album. it's not that uncommon. I'm sorry I think Boulevard of Broken Dreams sucked from American Idiot (just one of many possible examples), but I don't want to listen to that crap. I'm gonna buy the good songs. and what if I want to listen to multiple artists, not just one album from one artist? Your "album only" plan falls through
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American Idiot is not a good example. That album is not just a collection of songs, but a unified piece of conceptual art and social and political commentary. It tells a story, and if you listen to only a part of it you will be missing an incredible amount. I see your point in many cases, but you chose one of the poorest examples in recent memory.
 
thelatinist said:
American Idiot is not a good example. That album is not just a collection of songs, but a unified piece of conceptual art and social and political commentary. It tells a story, and if you listen to only a part of it you will be missing an incredible amount. I see your point in many cases, but you chose one of the poorest examples in recent memory.
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that was just the first one that came to mind. i just don't like blvd of broken dreams. its just too whiny for me
 
The General said:
What's the point of really long playlists? What's the point of playlists in general?

Am I the only one that listens to albums?
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I like some albums too...but there are times I want an artist's whole set of work(or what I own of it)...or songs of a similar type, if I'm in a certain mood. They have uses
 
BergerFan said:
It's one of the things the iPhone UI is sorely missing. When in the iPhone app, and scrolling through one of my long playlists, It can take an age to get to the song I want. Yes, I know there's a search option, but it doesn't search via the playlist, only the library, or album the song is in.
Whilst using Apple's Remote app the other day, I noticed that when in the same playlist, there's suddenly a scroll bar!
It's also needed in Safari, when browsing a long webpage.
I know and have the QuickScroll app from Cydia, but that becomes useless in the iPod, because it requires you to tripple-tap, on something that isnt clickable(the whole list is clickable in the iPod).
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agreed, also long emails.
 
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