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iPhone Needs Scroll Bars!
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scrolling, yes!
a disappearing scroll button/bar would be valuable for many applications.
air sharing pro's pdf viewer has a great implementation of a scroll button/bar.
Or, simply, TWO-fingered swiping could/should be more like a scroll bar's action.
a disappearing scroll button/bar would be valuable for many applications.
air sharing pro's pdf viewer has a great implementation of a scroll button/bar.
Or, simply, TWO-fingered swiping could/should be more like a scroll bar's action.
So true. Happens to me all the time. And while were at it, how about a simple way to scroll to bottom?
I've often thought they should add that some how to couple with the scroll to top status bar feature which I LOVE!
The iPhone does NOT need scroll bars though. EWW YUUCKKK!
Just throw in a stylus while your at it then. Can we say 1990? 
The iPhone does NOT need scroll bars though. EWW YUUCKKK!
There are scroll bars in Address Book and they didn't throw in a stylus for that.
The iPhone does NOT need scroll bars though. EWW YUUCKKK!
It already has popup scrollbars to look at. We just can't use them most of the time.
I think you're a perfect touchscreen example of a common UI phenomenon: the "baby duck" syndrome. Whatever you see first, you like and can't visualize any changes to it.
I agree 100% and I'm only 20. If I listen to music 100 times, only about 5 times will I ever hit shuffle or playlist. Listening to albums is sooo much better. I hate it when people say they love certain bands yet they only know their hit songs, it's so pathetic.
I think it'd be great if Apple made it so that those scroll bars that already exist can actually be grabbed. So you still need to initiate a flick scroll to get them to appear, but they can be grabbed and used thereafter.
I agree! It's another feature of the Remote app that has been left out of the iPod app.
For those who say just search:
When you search and select a song, the problem is that it plays it from its album, not the current view.
For example, I like to go to "Songs" and shuffle through all the songs on my phone. But if I'm looking at the list of all my songs and I search "Viva La Gloria," it starts playing it but then only plays songs from "21st Century Breakdown" -- NOT from the list of songs I was in.
It's really annoying since then I have to take my phone out again, unlock and navigate back to the song list to hit shuffle again.
For those who say just search:
When you search and select a song, the problem is that it plays it from its album, not the current view.
For example, I like to go to "Songs" and shuffle through all the songs on my phone. But if I'm looking at the list of all my songs and I search "Viva La Gloria," it starts playing it but then only plays songs from "21st Century Breakdown" -- NOT from the list of songs I was in.
It's really annoying since then I have to take my phone out again, unlock and navigate back to the song list to hit shuffle again.
It already has popup scrollbars to look at. We just can't use them most of the time.
I think you're a perfect touchscreen example of a common UI phenomenon: the "baby duck" syndrome. Whatever you see first, you like and can't visualize any changes to it.
I was referring to scroll bars like below. I think they are great how they are currently implemented. They are done that way for good reason.
As far as your accusation of me kdarling, you have no idea how wrong you are!
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Big deal. People can like what they like or love bands the way they want. They don't need to conform to your meaning of love for a band. You want to listen to an entire album go ahead. The rest of the world wants downloadable mp3s.
It already has popup scrollbars to look at. We just can't use them most of the time.
I think you're a perfect touchscreen example of a common UI phenomenon: the "baby duck" syndrome. Whatever you see first, you like and can't visualize any changes to it.
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Very clever, I like the saying. You described it perfectly.
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Thanks, did not know about this. Works great, at this point no need to wait on Apple!
I was referring to scroll bars like below. I think they are great how they are currently implemented. They are done that way for good reason.
As far as your accusation of me kdarling, you have no idea how wrong you are!
Umm... And what is that good reason for not having any fast way to view the last line of a 10 page HTML document? Or a 500 entry playlist?
I'm sure there's a totally Apple reason for flicking your finger 200 times in one direction.
It's naive and a PERFECT example of what kdarling said based on how you responded. You jumped to an assumption of a malformed UI for the device and because you don't see how that would fit with your image, you regected it.
Apple DOES have scroll bars in some of their apps (See the dots example from Remote or the Alphabetical one in Addressbook), but just not in all Apps. They really should though considering their push for a unified UI (With landscape in all apps except the home screen
)Way to not sound elitist.
Lol. Good one.
I did not even realize that people formed such strong opinions about how to listen to music. I thought everyone was was suppose to share and enjoy music the way they wanted. I am glad our two album only friends here alerted me to the fact there is a big difference. I guess I can't hang with album only people. Lol
Now I never understood playlists until I got my iPhone. I have all my music on my 80GB classic and made an iPhone playlist so that music just go on my iPhone and now made a different for my Nano also and I do the same.
Now I started be buying these CD's from a band that they put 2 demos on each CD. So what I did was make a playlist of all the demos (10 songs total) and I can play just the demos on the playlist.
I also drive all day for work and I do listen to whole CD's on most days, but I have days that I just don't know what to listen too. On those days I hit shuffle and I just play that. It's like having my own personal radio station of songs I like, and I'll also hit shuffle on 1 band I like.
Umm... And what is that good reason for not having any fast way to view the last line of a 10 page HTML document? Or a 500 entry playlist?
I'm sure there's a totally Apple reason for flicking your finger 200 times in one direction.
It's naive and a PERFECT example of what kdarling said based on how you responded. You jumped to an assumption of a malformed UI for the device and because you don't see how that would fit with your image, you regected it.
Apple DOES have scroll bars in some of their apps (See the dots example from Remote or the Alphabetical one in Addressbook), but just not in all Apps. They really should though considering their push for a unified UI (With landscape in all apps except the home screen
HELLO??? I said Apple should implement a feature to scroll all the way to the bottom of a page like they have to go to the top by touching the status bar. Chill out judgmental one. You know nothing about me. I am a film-maker and professional interface and interaction designer, so ya, I have no vision or imagination...
HELLO??? I said Apple should implement a feature to scroll all the way to the bottom of a page like they have to go to the top by touching the status bar. Chill out judgmental one. You know nothing about me. I am a film-maker and professional interface and interaction designer, so ya, I have no vision or imagination...
Sounds good. Notice I didn't say anything about you... I just said your RESPONSE was naive. I'm sure you're very creative.
Also, I didn't realize it was you who suggested the "Jump to Bottom" feature. That's definitely a solution that I think would work well with Apple's UI. The only thing is there's no lower status bar and most apps have a menu on the bottom. I guess one could perform a different gesture to quick scroll.
What if they just had 2 finger scrolling to act like Page Up and Page Down? So you'd be able to get to the top and bottom pretty quickly that way. Either that or 2 fingers up jumps to top and 2 fingers down jumps to bottom.
Maybe not the only one; but most people I know (including myself) use playlists. I use playlists to compile whole artists, so I can just click on the playlist, shuffle, and forget about having to skip tracks that I don't like and don't listen to.
What would be cool is Page up/down controlled from the volume buttons, where holding it for 1-2 sec would immediately jump to the top/bottom of the page.
Yea, but what if you wanted to quiet your phone or turn it up quickly.
Good idea though. It could start doing volume control but then if you hold it it could reset the volume and jump.
All good ideas. I wonder just how hard something like that would be to implement on a Jailbroken phone. Buttons probably easier than 2 finger scrolling, but who knows.
Mentioned before... but quickscroll looks really good.
http://code.google.com/p/networkpx/wiki/Using_QuickScroll
Also looks like you can hold down one finger while you triple tap with another to implement (might work in iPod)
http://code.google.com/p/networkpx/wiki/Using_QuickScroll
Also looks like you can hold down one finger while you triple tap with another to implement (might work in iPod)
Scroll bars ftw
Not only would I like scroll bars, but, like some of my old pdas, I would like scroll bars on the left (for us gifted left-handers!).
Not only would I like scroll bars, but, like some of my old pdas, I would like scroll bars on the left (for us gifted left-handers!).