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Only a million or so.

They're obviously doomed. :p

I guess Apple needs to beg MS for the $100 million they need to survive this fiasco ... who would have thought there couple have been another clone level screw up so soon.
 
For applications wait until February and then there'll be loads of software, undoubtedly including a scientific calculator.

Let's not get our hopes up; Apple might only allow distribution through iTunes and limit SDK availability like a console maker (Nintendo, Microsoft, Sony). It might be possible that only big name developers can publish applications and even then none of it will be free.
 
Let's not get our hopes up; Apple might only allow distribution through iTunes and limit SDK availability like a console maker (Nintendo, Microsoft, Sony). It might be possible that only big name developers can publish applications and even then none of it will be free.
We'll have to see. Clearly Apple's not looking to GATE anything at this point, just to maintain "security". There is very little "security" rationale for charging people for *everything*, so its pretty unlikely but not impossible. The only reason Apple is trying to charge for iTunes ringtones, is because the content providers want a model there that maintains the mainstream status quo.

~ CB
 
The only reason Apple is trying to charge for iTunes ringtones, is because the content providers want a model there that maintains the mainstream status quo.

The revenue model was set down by all the previous carriers that charged for ringtones. While a small consolation, Apple's ringtone system is less expensive and allows for some customization.
 
memesmith is right on regarding the contact searching function. Any piece of information can initiate a search; address, first name, part of a phone number!

Thread Starter is a walking/talking stereotype. Drawing on his refusal to accept anything without a Gates stamp of approval.

Sent from iPhone. While listening to iTunes. And receiving a text.
 
Not ready for prime time

I started this thread, and appreciate those responses that either validated my complaints or gave me tips I could use. This, of course excludes those comments like, "just get a Mac," which were not helpful.

I still have the brick; I kept it too long to be able to get ATT to take it back. I have also resolved a couple of the issues that were causing me consternation such as how to get the photos off the iPhone. My normal photo program, ACDSee, for some reason does not recogniz the iPhone, but I found that Microsoft Scanner and Photograph Wizard will pull the photos onto my computer. And I made a grudging truce with the hot-sync troubles once I found out how to reset the sync history.

Syncing is still lame in that sometimes Calendar entries that I have put on the iPhone do not sync to my Outlook, so I have to be careful to backcheck my Calendar. Also, with my old Palm, I was able to sync with my computer at work, and then sync to my home computer, keeping my information up to date in three places, mostly without trouble. With the iPhone, however, it seems to send the data into tailspins, creating hundreds of apparently random duplicates. So, now I only sync to my work computer. Any calendar items or new contacts, I write at home, email them to myself at work, pull them onto my work computer, then sync them to the iPhone. I think that would be called a workaround, but it seems to me to be a slitheraround. I have not been able to find information on how to get the iPhone to sync onto two different machines, and would appreciate any guidance or warnings.

At the risk of repeating myself, why Apple could not put out a product that matched the features older technologies such as a search engine that works is beyond me. I have followed instructions by some responders who say there is indeed a search engine on the iPhone, and appreciate the information. But as best I can tell, it is just about as lame as having no search engine at all. First, you can only call up a keyboard in some of the programs, and one of them is NOT the phone unless you are editing a specific contact, at which time it most certainly does not act as a search engine IO port. Secondly, with 4100 addresses in my contacts, I do not think I am overly forgetful if on occasion I cannot remember a business contact's first or last name. In those situations, it might be nice to search by a job address, a job number, a company name, or even a city, and get a list of all the contacts that match. However, only those contacts with first or last names that match the string are pulled up, and WHY do I have to go to, say, Maps to get the search engine to engage?

Other features that Apple has decided the "rest of us" don't need is the Task List, and usable usable Notes program. On my Palm I had about a hundred notes, some of which were quite extensive. They were organized into a list by the first-line text and could be color coded to coincide with various topics such as work, personal, community, etc. But on this thing, I get one color, and the entirety of every note is visible, making it impractical to install, say, a metric-English conversion database, or the text of a nice poem, or my favorite reading list. Eight gigabytes of memory, but all it can be used for is iToons music and videos? Entertainment Tonight.

If anyone at Apple reads this, I would like a response to my question: why did you field a product that discards some very useful and very simple functions that have existed for years in favor of one that is limited to eye candy such as YouTube? I enjoy YouTube as much as anyone, but really, your customers deserve better. I have named my iPhone Rosie Ruiz, and will be bad mouthing it until you fix it, I lose it, or I blendit!
 
Just because YOU do not know how to use it, doesn't not mean it's not ready for prime time.

On the contrary, there are millions of happy customers, and your issues seems to be YOU. Do you do ANY research when you buy something? Perhaps you are not smart enough to follow the simple instructions to jailbreak the iPhone?

OMG a Porsche cannot carry a sofa? My 10 year old rusted pickup truck can do that? A Porsche is useless to my furniture moving business, my life is ruined... LOL
 
What I don't understand is why in 2007-08 are we a society that looks at things in the context of "it doesn't fit my need or my desire, so it must be horrible"?

If you are truly that fed up with your iPhone, take it back, and enjoy whatever it is you get. I had a conversation with a co-worker this morning who just got a BlackBerry Curve. She was debating between the Curve or iPhone but went with the Curve because a friend showed her all it could do. She got it yesterday. This morning I was showing her my iPhone and she played with it for about 2 minutes and said "I think I'll take my BlackBerry back and get the iPhone." I just told her to give the BlackBerry a chance, maybe it will end up being what she wants.

I also don't understand this constant need for people to explain every reason why they are doing something. You make a post with a laundry list of personal issues and then say "I'm off to AT&T to take it back." Well, duh. Why the need for that? We see you aren't happy with it, I wouldn't expect you to keep it. As if somehow you saying that is going to deter others. WTF?

And last but not least, to say a product is not ready for prime time that has received the accolades and response from every consumer-type is just plain hilarious. Business people on down to the high school teenager are enjoying it and the momentum is just beginning. I hardly would call some random poster on a forum anecdotal evidence and The Truth that the iPhone is not ready. Give me a break.
 
I started this thread, and appreciate those responses that either validated my complaints or gave me tips I could use. This, of course excludes those comments like, "just get a Mac," which were not helpful.

I still have the brick; I kept it too long to be able to get ATT to take it back. I have also resolved a couple of the issues that were causing me consternation such as how to get the photos off the iPhone. My normal photo program, ACDSee, for some reason does not recogniz the iPhone, but I found that Microsoft Scanner and Photograph Wizard will pull the photos onto my computer. And I made a grudging truce with the hot-sync troubles once I found out how to reset the sync history.

Syncing is still lame in that sometimes Calendar entries that I have put on the iPhone do not sync to my Outlook, so I have to be careful to backcheck my Calendar. Also, with my old Palm, I was able to sync with my computer at work, and then sync to my home computer, keeping my information up to date in three places, mostly without trouble. With the iPhone, however, it seems to send the data into tailspins, creating hundreds of apparently random duplicates. So, now I only sync to my work computer. Any calendar items or new contacts, I write at home, email them to myself at work, pull them onto my work computer, then sync them to the iPhone. I think that would be called a workaround, but it seems to me to be a slitheraround. I have not been able to find information on how to get the iPhone to sync onto two different machines, and would appreciate any guidance or warnings.

At the risk of repeating myself, why Apple could not put out a product that matched the features older technologies such as a search engine that works is beyond me. I have followed instructions by some responders who say there is indeed a search engine on the iPhone, and appreciate the information. But as best I can tell, it is just about as lame as having no search engine at all. First, you can only call up a keyboard in some of the programs, and one of them is NOT the phone unless you are editing a specific contact, at which time it most certainly does not act as a search engine IO port. Secondly, with 4100 addresses in my contacts, I do not think I am overly forgetful if on occasion I cannot remember a business contact's first or last name. In those situations, it might be nice to search by a job address, a job number, a company name, or even a city, and get a list of all the contacts that match. However, only those contacts with first or last names that match the string are pulled up, and WHY do I have to go to, say, Maps to get the search engine to engage?

Other features that Apple has decided the "rest of us" don't need is the Task List, and usable usable Notes program. On my Palm I had about a hundred notes, some of which were quite extensive. They were organized into a list by the first-line text and could be color coded to coincide with various topics such as work, personal, community, etc. But on this thing, I get one color, and the entirety of every note is visible, making it impractical to install, say, a metric-English conversion database, or the text of a nice poem, or my favorite reading list. Eight gigabytes of memory, but all it can be used for is iToons music and videos? Entertainment Tonight.

If anyone at Apple reads this, I would like a response to my question: why did you field a product that discards some very useful and very simple functions that have existed for years in favor of one that is limited to eye candy such as YouTube? I enjoy YouTube as much as anyone, but really, your customers deserve better. I have named my iPhone Rosie Ruiz, and will be bad mouthing it until you fix it, I lose it, or I blendit!

It's not a PDA. Get over that fact. You simply need something else. You are trying to fit a round peg in a square hole. Apple did not intend the iPhone to be a PDA but rather a basic tool for all types of applications. Phone, Music, Notes, Camera, Maps, etc. I just don't understand why, in 30 days, you could not come to the conclusion that it wouldn't fit your needs?
 
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