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jasheeky

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I currently have an iPhone X, and yes I do see the Phone 11 Pro as a worthy upgrade for those with the funds. I am going to hold out one more year though, as my money is not unlimited. I am trying to go to a 3 year cycle, as these phones are expensive for me.

Here is what I would like to see:

1.) 90hz pro-motion OLED display

2.) Ability to switch between all 3 camera lenses in video mode at 4K60 (currently limited to 4K30, see The Verge link at 9:08

3.) 128gb minimum storage option

4.) USB-C interface

5.) 5G connectivity

The above improvements appears to be reasonable expectations for next year. I honestly don't care about a redesign, that would just be the cherry on the top.
 
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redheeler

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Oct 17, 2014
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A midnight blue color option in addition to the midnight green. That one I might actually consider.

USB-C (with Lightning adapter in the box), 128 GB base, 5G, Pro-motion display, $100 lower price, in-display Touch ID. Those last two are probably far-fetched.
 
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sniffies

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iPad Pro-like redesign
6.7-inch display
128 GB option
Touch ID
USB-C

Now that would be the groundbreaking and revolutionary iPhone since iPhone 4

Oh, and please call it Phone Pro
 
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Falhófnir

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Main one is the return of Touch ID, I just prefer the deliberate action of unlocking with your finger to the passive unlocking that happens with Face ID. If literally nothing else changed over the 11 Pro I'd probably still be satisfied :p

Based on Rumours, the next smaller Pro will be shrinking to 5.4", which is a bit of a shame as I'd like to have moved down from the 8 plus to the 5.8" size. Being used to a plus phone I think 5.4" will be a little too small, as it's the equivalent of a 4.7" 16:9 screen while the 5.8" is about equivalent to a 5.0" 16:9 screen.

I'm possibly on the wrong side of popular opinion this, but I'd also prefer to stick with lightning, not move to USB C. I already have loads of lightning cables, and tbh the connector seems better designed (more robust).

I'd stick with 256GB storage if the base went to 128GB, but in the unlikely event the middle tier went to 512GB that would be a plus :D

Not bothered about 5G, ToF 3D cameras, all cool stuff, but not something I'd likely make use of.
 

jasheeky

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I'm possibly on the wrong side of popular opinion this, but I'd also prefer to stick with lightning, not move to USB C. I already have loads of lightning cables, and tbh the connector seems better designed (more robust).

I think the main benefit for me with USB-C are the higher data transfer speeds with my computer for local backups. Additionally, loading or offloading anything using the Files app like you can with the iPad Pro. The current USB 2.0 transfer speeds are atrocious, and definitely not "Pro"
 

Falhófnir

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I think the main benefit for me with USB-C are the higher data transfer speeds with my computer for local backups. Additionally, loading or offloading anything using the Files app like you can with the iPad Pro. The current USB 2.0 transfer speeds are atrocious, and definitely not "Pro"
Speed definitely a benefit of USB C, particularly when USB 4 comes about... I believe lightning does support USB 3.0 speeds, though, at least on the older gen iPad Pros (not sure about iPhone) as long as you use the lightning to USB C cable. I'm not sure whether there's scope to upgrade the lightning spec to be compatible with USB 3.1/4.0 in the future but might be a best of both worlds solution if it is?
 

EW406

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Oct 28, 2017
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I personally don’t think it needs 5G. MKBHD did a great video about 5G and it explains a ton. Have a watch and it may change your mind about wanting it so soon.

 
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CrazyForCashews

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I'd like to see the iPhone return to the iPhone 4/5 design and I want Apple to make a smaller premium iPhone. Bigger than the SE but smaller than the 11 Pro, rumours of that 5.4" iPhone may just be that.
 
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dazz87

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1. NO NOTCH FULL SCREEN.
2. 6.5" True 120hz MicroLED.
3. 4300 mAh battery.
4. 8GB of Ram.
5. Always on Display.
6. Replacing Face ID with Touch ID on the back of the phone.

I have a feeling this time next yr we will get it ALL!
 

UKapple73

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Sep 13, 2014
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1. NO NOTCH FULL SCREEN.
2. 6.5" True 120hz MicroLED.
3. 4300 mAh battery.
4. 8GB of Ram.
5. Always on Display.
6. Replacing Face ID with Touch ID on the back of the phone.

I have a feeling this time next yr we will get it ALL!
I have a feeling we won’t get any of those lol
I’m really annoyed we won’t be able to switch between cameras at 4k60....why not??
 
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jasheeky

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I’m really annoyed we won’t be able to switch between cameras at 4k60....why not??

Next year. I never shoot in 30fps and won't start now. Once you have that smoothness, it's hard to go back. A true shame they didn't list that anywhere after bragging about 4k60. Kudos to the verge for highlighting that.
 
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MacNut

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Apple will never make a flagship phone smaller, the secondary phone will have the smaller size.
 

wolfboy

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People think the the 2020 5.4" iPhone will be smaller because of that number, but they're assuming its going to be narrow like the current X phones. I think it's going to be closer to the more standard sized 5.5" iPhone Plus without bezels. So screen size will be wider, but not as tall and actually bigger and better for 16:9 video.

Was really torn between waiting another year vs getting the 11 Pro. But ultimately upgrading this year as I don't like getting the first versions of a redesign. Historically, the first iterations just don't age as well as the S-upgrades.

- iPhone 6
- iPhone X

Both aged much poorer than the 6S/7 and 11. The 6S is still quite usable today aside from battery life. Meanwhile, the 6 was already feeling outdated two years ago. And the X despite having a new design did not wow me internally, nor did its camera.
 
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The Game 161

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Dec 15, 2010
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I’m sure 2020 iPhone will be massive in terms of screen refresh rate, likely full on USB-C but for now i’m Just waiting for my 2019 iPhone lol
 

eoblaed

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Apr 21, 2010
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1. NO NOTCH FULL SCREEN.
Eh. I don't care either way.

2. 6.5" True 120hz MicroLED.
This would be sweet.

3. 4300 mAh battery.
I'll never turn down more battery, but the 11 Pro/Max phones we're getting on Friday seem to have some pretty monstrous battery life as it is and I wouldn't want the phone to get too much heavier.

4. 8GB of Ram.
Would be useful if it didn't contribute to battery drain too much.

5. Always on Display.
Maybe? I could see it being useful from time to time.

6. Replacing Face ID with Touch ID on the back of the phone.

Nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope. No. Nada. Noooooooo. No.
 
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zakarhino

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We need more of those 'magical' products and services in 2020. Not just traditional product rehashes and iterations on existing software paradigms. Apple hasn't introduced a truly magical new technology paradigm since 2007 (and no, the Apple Watch doesn't count).


2020 iPhone Hardware:

  1. Improved battery life over 11 Pro
  2. Squared off design.
  3. Thinner
  4. 120Hz MicroLED display.
  5. Apple Pencil support (a smaller version available for it too).
  6. Matte texture display (so scrolling and drawing on it with the Pencil feels like paper)
  7. No notch (rumors are saying this won't happen)
  8. Reduced bezels (significantly)
  9. 5G
  10. 3D Touch

2020 software:
  1. PiP video (for goodness sake, also I hate that YouTube will never implement this)
  2. A significant refocus on user controlled security. Re-engineer iCloud and many of the other services to have significantly better 0 trust security systems. I want the ability to use many of Apple's services (iCloud Drive, cloud backups, etc.) with the guarantee that only I have the keys to unlock that content. Many other services have shown this is possible at least to a basic degree (SpiderOak, Tutanota, etc.). Apple's billions of dollars can surely come up with a way to make Apple's software the world's foremost leader on truly private cloud architecture.
  3. A complete re-invention of iOS that focuses on multi workflows and high customization. Take the principles of Siri workflows and apply that system wide. I want to be able to have multiple workspaces on my iPhone/iPad/Mac so I can work on lots of different projects/intents all at once but have them completely separate. Sort of like having different 'containers' per piece of work or project. It would be like applying the principles of 'multi user' operating systems but instead of having multiple users, you have multiple personas or contexts.
  4. A 'Privacy' oriented Screen Time like menu that lets me see exact logs of everything that every app on my phone is doing. Every time they query the GPS, every time they send data, etc. I should be able to hit a kill switch on any app to prevent it from sending any data back to its home servers until I toggle that switch back off (a quarantine like mode, a la Little Snitch).
  5. Revamp all the existing productivity apps across the major Operating Systems (iOS, macOS, iPadOS) and make them 100% cross platform. In addition, sync the ENTIRE state of those apps over iCloud (content, menu config, cursor position, etc.). This would make Apple one of the first companies to introduce true native 'cloud apps' that go a step further than just syncing content like most apps currently do. A more in depth Handoff if you will...
  6. Introduce some new forms of productivity applications/features that are unlike anything else on the market. Help me become a superhuman capable of doing my work 100x faster on Apple's ecosystem rather than offering the same fundamental applications we've had since the 90's (word processors, traditional email clients, etc.).
  7. Different notification 'zones' so that I can turn off all the notifications for work/garbage if I'm out with family/friends and don't want to be bombarded with crap from the 100 apps I don't care about in that given moment.

To accompany the 2020 iPhone:

  1. AR Glasses accessory with all day battery life. This should integrate with the
  2. New, lower profile AirPods WITHOUT always on noise cancellation and with all day battery life. Would be awesome to keep them in your ears all day to enable constant connection with the digital realm without disrupting your connection with reality. The true passive audio system.
 

Coffee_Time

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We need more of those 'magical' products and services in 2020. Not just traditional product rehashes and iterations on existing software paradigms. Apple hasn't introduced a truly magical new technology paradigm since 2007 (and no, the Apple Watch doesn't count).


2020 iPhone Hardware:

  1. Improved battery life over 11 Pro
  2. Squared off design.
  3. Thinner
  4. 120Hz MicroLED display.
  5. Apple Pencil support (a smaller version available for it too).
  6. Matte texture display (so scrolling and drawing on it with the Pencil feels like paper)
  7. No notch (rumors are saying this won't happen)
  8. Reduced bezels (significantly)
  9. 5G
  10. 3D Touch

2020 software:
  1. PiP video (for goodness sake, also I hate that YouTube will never implement this)
  2. A significant refocus on user controlled security. Re-engineer iCloud and many of the other services to have significantly better 0 trust security systems. I want the ability to use many of Apple's services (iCloud Drive, cloud backups, etc.) with the guarantee that only I have the keys to unlock that content. Many other services have shown this is possible at least to a basic degree (SpiderOak, Tutanota, etc.). Apple's billions of dollars can surely come up with a way to make Apple's software the world's foremost leader on truly private cloud architecture.
  3. A complete re-invention of iOS that focuses on multi workflows and high customization. Take the principles of Siri workflows and apply that system wide. I want to be able to have multiple workspaces on my iPhone/iPad/Mac so I can work on lots of different projects/intents all at once but have them completely separate. Sort of like having different 'containers' per piece of work or project. It would be like applying the principles of 'multi user' operating systems but instead of having multiple users, you have multiple personas or contexts.
  4. A 'Privacy' oriented Screen Time like menu that lets me see exact logs of everything that every app on my phone is doing. Every time they query the GPS, every time they send data, etc. I should be able to hit a kill switch on any app to prevent it from sending any data back to its home servers until I toggle that switch back off (a quarantine like mode, a la Little Snitch).
  5. Revamp all the existing productivity apps across the major Operating Systems (iOS, macOS, iPadOS) and make them 100% cross platform. In addition, sync the ENTIRE state of those apps over iCloud (content, menu config, cursor position, etc.). This would make Apple one of the first companies to introduce true native 'cloud apps' that go a step further than just syncing content like most apps currently do. A more in depth Handoff if you will...
  6. Introduce some new forms of productivity applications/features that are unlike anything else on the market. Help me become a superhuman capable of doing my work 100x faster on Apple's ecosystem rather than offering the same fundamental applications we've had since the 90's (word processors, traditional email clients, etc.).
  7. Different notification 'zones' so that I can turn off all the notifications for work/garbage if I'm out with family/friends and don't want to be bombarded with crap from the 100 apps I don't care about in that given moment.

To accompany the 2020 iPhone:

  1. AR Glasses accessory with all day battery life. This should integrate with the
  2. New, lower profile AirPods WITHOUT always on noise cancellation and with all day battery life. Would be awesome to keep them in your ears all day to enable constant connection with the digital realm without disrupting your connection with reality. The true passive audio system.
Wow! Did you write all or it was copy pasted? You for sure have patience if so.
 

zakarhino

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Wow! Did you write all or it was copy pasted? You for sure have patience if so.

I write code all day and all night so it doesn't take me long to write stuff lol. Many of the words included in that post are probably redundant honestly, I possess the incredible ability to ramble incoherently.
 

chabig

macrumors G4
Sep 6, 2002
11,461
9,328
I think the main benefit for me with USB-C are the higher data transfer speeds with my computer for local backups. Additionally, loading or offloading anything using the Files app like you can with the iPad Pro. The current USB 2.0 transfer speeds are atrocious, and definitely not "Pro"
USB-C is just the name of the port. It has nothing to do with transfer speed. Perhaps you're thinking about USB 3?
 
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