iPhone rumors are just rumors, want real answer on carrier iPhone will be on.

[bradl]

Their plans are cheap because the coverage sucks.

The fact is t-mobile is too small of a company to really make at&t turn it up a notch. Ironically the only company that can do that is verizon

But T-Mobile is the easiest for Apple to expand to. All it would take is getting to the frequency that T-Mobile uses for 3G, and they're done. No hardware change required, where Verizon would need either a new chipset installed, or a separate phone outright. Neither of which is cost effective to Apple, especially with LTE coming down the pipe.

I'm still waiting for a reason, outside of 'users', that it would be beneficial to Apple to make a CDMA-capable phone, when that technology (and that network) will be gone/made redundant within the next 2 - 3 years.

All of this being outside how bitter VZW is because they laughed Jobs out the door, and his phone is now so successful. They had their chance, and they blew it.

BL.

 

[ToroidalZeus]

But T-Mobile is the easiest for Apple to expand to. All it would take is getting to the frequency that T-Mobile uses for 3G, and they're done. No hardware change required, where Verizon would need either a new chipset installed, or a separate phone outright. Neither of which is cost effective to Apple, especially with LTE coming down the pipe.

But that would be a spit in the face to at&t. Having a iphone with cheap service on t-mobile would undercut at&t. Plus people already bitch about the at&t 3g network. Image how much worse it would be with t-mobile. AND since t-mobile is a smaller company it would be harder for them to expand their 3g coverage.

 

[rtmadden]

Hello, this is a Canadian and European citizen reminding you that there is a world outside of the border of the US. Apple would never release the new iPhone as a CDMA only device at this point or even bother with a "world" phone. The iPhone 3GS is already a "world" phone because it is available all over the world and can be used all over the world. I don't care how many subscribers Verizon has. That number is irrelevant. What is relevant is how many Verizon subscribers would be unwilling to switch to AT&T for the iPhone but willing to buy an iPhone on Verizon only. I suspect that number is way too small for Apple to bother.

Verizon had a window of opportunity before the original iPhone was launched but after the iPhone 3G was launched in so many countries (who all use GSM/3GGSM (aka UTMS or HSPA), Verizon getting the iPhone as a CDMA carrier had a snow balls chance. After the 3GS was launched in even more countries, the US market has become even less important to Apple than it was when the 3G launched.

Verizon's leadership is incompetent. They should have an HSPA+ network rivalling the Canadian carriers but instead they have sat on their thumbs collecting money from customers promising LTE "someday".

Canada, where's that? Yay for LTE!

 

[Applejuiced]

Who knows what they'll do. But a CDMA phone could sell almost as much as all foreign GSM sales combined.

Yeah right.
Just a fraction of the Asian market is enough to more than make up for what would be verizons iPhone market.
Apple is an international provider now with deals thruout the world. They can care less about verizon and their customers.
Compared to a worldwide market verizon is just a drop in the bucket.

 

[bradl]

But that would be a spit in the face to at&t. Having a iphone with cheap service on t-mobile would undercut at&t. Plus people already bitch about the at&t 3g network. Image how much worse it would be with t-mobile. AND since t-mobile is a smaller company it would be harder for them to expand their 3g coverage.

You assume that Apple and T-Mobile would stick with the currently advertised rates. I highly doubt they will. They certainly didn't when ATT and Apple brought out the first iPhone.

Besides.. They would already be on the roll alongside ATT in rolling LTE, which (I believe) current iPhone users could use. Would it not take a CDMA phone at first to use VZW's LTE network, followed by LTE-native phones when the LTE transition is done? If so, you're still looking at a costly second type of phone for a dying technology. So you're back to same phone with a different spectrum vs. making a separate phone.

BL.

 

[trajen]

If the iPhone comes to T-Mobile I bet it will be the $99 3G (NOT the 3GS) and T-Mobile will create an iPhone plan similar to AT&T's yet just a tad cheaper. $80 or so a month versus $120 a month.

 

[macrumors-james]

Everyone is talking about the RUMORS that the iPhone might be coming to verizon

USA Today reported that AT&T signed a 5 year contract for the iPhone back in 2007, so no, Verizon is not getting the iPhone anytime soon:

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2007-01-28-verizon-iphone_x.htm?POE=TECISVA:
"Cingular won't talk about the financial terms or say how long its iPhone exclusivity lasts, but two people with direct knowledge of the deal say it's a five-year contract."

 

[countrydweller]

Here's the REAL answer. Any other posts you can ignore.

Verizon's commercials of late pretty much have burned any bridge for getting the iPhone.

Verizon turned down the iPhone when it was first offered, since they wanted more control than Apple would ever allow.

Verizon is not getting the iPhone any time soon.

$$$$$ is the big decider, if they can both make money, commercials of the past are just that.

 

[macrumors-james]

To be fair,
Verizon has been bashing AT&T's service with the map ads, NOT APPLE.

wrong:
http://technologizer.com/2009/11/08/verizon-wireless-the-iphone-is-a-misfit-toy/

Sure it pops up the coverage, but that's a iPhone being bashed.

Apple firing right back:
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/11/24/apple-attacks-verizon-with-new-iphone-commercials

Even if Verizon got the iPhone tomorrow I wouldn't switch if you can't use the internet AND talk at the same time on the Verizon network.

 

[thelatinist]

Everyone is talking about the RUMORS that the iPhone might be coming to verizon, no I am not asking if they would or not.

Almost everyone on here doesn't have true knowledge of what is going to happen, it is all speculation.

I just want a real answer with a solid point on what we can expect carrier wise or hardware wise on the next iPhone . . .

Do you not know how ridiculous this sounds? You denounce speculation, then immediately demand answers of people who have no way of knowing! Nobody outside of Apple (and possibly whatever carriers they are negotiating with) knows anything about what will happen with the iPhone beyond Apple's current contract with AT&T. And neither Steve Jobs nor Ralph de la Vega posts here.

 

[Applejuiced]

$$$$$ is the big decider, if they can both make money, commercials of the past are just that.

Apple is not that easy to forgive and forget when they try to tarnish their rep/product.

 

[xraydoc]

Even if Verizon got the iPhone tomorrow I wouldn't switch if you can't use the internet AND talk at the same time on the Verizon network.

I would. At least I'd be able to do one of those two things. I can't do either with AT&T right now...!