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which is why I moved back to iOS completion between android and IOS is fantastic at the moment.
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iPhone users what makes you stay with iPhone and try a different a device?
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which is why I moved back to iOS completion between android and IOS is fantastic at the moment.
I didn't I got rid of my iPhone in favor of Android. Apple went from weird narrow phone to super size neither of which I like. The difference between Android and iOS is preference I touch what I want to do it's not complex.
For me, I need something that is reliable, has customization and is easy to deal with. My phone is my life and, with the way it looks and functions, it will need to be something to my liking.
I own a iPod, iPhone, and a iPad. I am starting to hate Apple for there design. Us as users have the option for customization and personalization. We are not users locked into a ecosystem of tyrany (Apple iOS updates and constant patches to keep the system free of malware AND ESPECIALLY JAILBREAKING). We have a right over what runs on our phone, what our phone looks like.
The Jony Ivves design spells it out all. He has the power to make a change and, he does. He won't allow us to keep unupdated and, coaxes us to update. Above all, Apple does not let us downgrade our software and, we are locked in a closed ecosystem with iTunes, certain playable video formats, and limited features.
Apple's last 2 updates has crippled many devices. For example, at one time, my friend and I both had our own 4S's running iOS 6.1.3 (Each 4S is a 16 gb model and has around same amount of storage space occupied too). She updated hers and, her iPhone 4S is now slower, less reliable and, even though she has a better battery than me (Mine is more shot than hers), her iOS 8.3 iPhone charges slower and drains quicker. (even with all of the battery enhancements enabled) In one night, it went up from being flat to 20% (8 hours)
This proves Apple Quality is demising. There software is less reliable, (another point), there phones bend, and, we are restricted to the apps our phones can handle (unless we cannot stand it and jailbreak
)! With Android, users can customize to your hearts desire (with millions of options EVEN WITHOUT ROOTING
)Android's format is more friendly than the Apple Ecosystem (more files are compatable). On top of that, there are different phone companies and brands making different android products (and all running the same software!) compared to the Apple who makes every single iPhone, iPad, iPod, Mac, and even the new Apple Watch!
Overall, once my 4S dies
(I am betting on a time frame between 6 months - 2 years), my next phone will be a Android (I only get new technology when my old ones break)! I am tired of Apple's shenanigans and, with the Android's I have tested out (S5, Note 4, etc) [Some on Kitkat and others on Lollipop], I will definetly fit in!
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Your point of older iPhone getting crippled by updates are interesting and true but yet fanboys don't talk about it.For me, I need something that is reliable, has customization and is easy to deal with. My phone is my life and, with the way it looks and functions, it will need to be something to my liking.
I own a iPod, iPhone, and a iPad. I am starting to hate Apple for there design. Us as users have the option for customization and personalization. We are not users locked into a ecosystem of tyrany (Apple iOS updates and constant patches to keep the system free of malware AND ESPECIALLY JAILBREAKING). We have a right over what runs on our phone, what our phone looks like.
The Jony Ivves design spells it out all. He has the power to make a change and, he does. He won't allow us to keep unupdated and, coaxes us to update. Above all, Apple does not let us downgrade our software and, we are locked in a closed ecosystem with iTunes, certain playable video formats, and limited features.
Apple's last 2 updates has crippled many devices. For example, at one time, my friend and I both had our own 4S's running iOS 6.1.3 (Each 4S is a 16 gb model and has around same amount of storage space occupied too). She updated hers and, her iPhone 4S is now slower, less reliable and, even though she has a better battery than me (Mine is more shot than hers), her iOS 8.3 iPhone charges slower and drains quicker. (even with all of the battery enhancements enabled) In one night, it went up from being flat to 20% (8 hours)
This proves Apple Quality is demising. There software is less reliable, (another point), there phones bend, and, we are restricted to the apps our phones can handle (unless we cannot stand it and jailbreak)!
With Android, users can customize to your hearts desire (with millions of options EVEN WITHOUT ROOTING
Android's format is more friendly than the Apple Ecosystem (more files are compatable). On top of that, there are different phone companies and brands making different android products (and all running the same software!) compared to the Apple who makes every single iPhone, iPad, iPod, Mac, and even the new Apple Watch!
Overall, once my 4S dies
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Yep that is one of the complaints you never hear about from the Fanboys. Its funny, I saw a youtube the parady the other day. There was a Apple Car and a Google Car. People prefered the apple one "Because its Apple" XD
They could not come up with a reason why the Google one was better because they felt since it was Apple, it had to be the best!
Back in real life, the Apple Fanboys feel the same thing. Some cannot prove why Apple is better than Android and, even with negitive things, they keep investing!
Indeed, and the inability to downgrade compounds the problem.
Not that android doesn't have its own set of issues.
Yes you have a choice in your phone's design, but only by choosing what's offered by manufacturers. You cannot dicate to an OEM how they should design your phone. If you don't like the design of an iPhone, choose another--nobody is forcing you to stay with Apple. You don't necessarily have a choice in what OS runs on your device though. There are very few manufacturers that 'allow' you to run software different from what they put on their device. And by 'allow', I mean have a means to root and unlock the bootloader so you can flash another ROM.
Won't disagree with you about the downgrading point--certainly a bit heavy-handed on Apple's part.
You're complaining about a 3 1/2 year old device. Of course it's going to run slower, software evolves and is usually designed to operate most efficiently on current hardware. This will be no different on Android and in truth, you'll likely never see a full 2 years of software update on most Android phones, much less 3 years. You think a Galaxy S3 or 3+ year old HTC One X would be comparable to current devices if they also had the latest software? Oh wait, we'll never know because they stopped getting updates a while ago.
Older iPhones may not see all the new features a new version of iOS offers, or run as optimally as newer models, but Apple offers better software support for their device than ANY other OEM, including Google and their Nexus devices. HTC has probably been the best Android OEM over the past two years (my 2 yr old M7 is running Lollipop). Samsung? Good luck with that.
You may get an software upgrade but it'll likely be a good 4-6 months after release.This proves Apple Quality is demising. There software is less reliable, (another point), there phones bend, and, we are restricted to the apps our phones can handle (unless we cannot stand it and jailbreak
It's not as bad as it once was but there is still fragmentation issues on Android. I believe I read earlier today that a frequent user on this subforum, Fernandez21 couldn't run a bunch of his current stable of apps on either his Note 4 or S6 because they're weren't yet compatible. It's not uncommon considering how many different pieces of hardware run Android--making apps work with all of them is next to impossible.
With Android, users can customize to your hearts desire (with millions of options EVEN WITHOUT ROOTING
Yup, no arguement here. Android is far more customizable.
Not entirely true. Underneath, they're running Android but it's quite possibly any number of versions of Jellybean, Kit Kat, or if you're lucky, Lollipop. And every OEM has their own skin on top of it. Run a Sony, HTC, Samsung, LG, or Motorola next to each other and they all look/feel entirely different in many ways.
Overall, once my 4S dies
Great, it's always good to see what else is out there. Took me a few years of using only an iPhone before I ventured over to Android. I've owned 5 different Android phones and 4 different Android tablets over the past couple years and enjoyed exploring a world quite different from iOS. While I still use Android, it's much less frequently because ultimately I find iOS fits my needs better. Hope you find Android fill in some of the deficiencies you feel iOS has.
I enjoy using My Windows Phone, my Android phones and my iPhone. When an update comes out for any of them, it feels like christmas. This month has been a real treat. iOS 8.3, Windows Phone 10 and (shortly) Android 5.1.1 all came out. Love trying out the new stuff, even if the update is a beta (like Win Phone 10).
But my daily driver is still an iPhone 6. Nothing so far this year has given me an inclination to switch (not even the S6 Edge. Mainly because I can't stand TW.)
But my daily driver is still an iPhone 6. Nothing so far this year has given me an inclination to switch (not even the S6 Edge. Mainly because I can't stand TW.)
It's very simple for me. I stick with iPhone because the ecosystem is exactly what I wanted for productivity when I started early adopting with DOS and Palm, spending too much money and tech time over the years until I found the modern Apple. Now I spend my time using computers to get work done and enjoy quality of life instead of chasing the dream.
iMessage is a big one. FaceTime, as well (it's the only video calling my mom knows). Also I prefer to "drive the car" than tinker under the hood. Using the product as the manufacturer intends gives me more satisfaction than tinkering around looking for the perfect app.
If the iPhone 6 had a 1080P display, 2GB of RAM, a better camera and greater use of extensions in apps I use the most, I probably wouldn't have a Galaxy S6 right now.
I like iMessage, Continuity, and FaceTime a lot, but not enough to deal with an under specced device.
I like iMessage, Continuity, and FaceTime a lot, but not enough to deal with an under specced device.
And that's the thing, as underspecced as apple phones appear to be, they always beat the pants off the competition.
Add in the ecosystem, which includes imessage and facetime, and the support factor and to some the specs become less relevant.
Apple has a committed following but to say "they always beat the pants off the competition" is just ignorant. You just seem to be trolling now.
Ummm, let's be careful with the trolling pot/kettle thing.
Show me where it's not true on any site, like anandtech, that reviewed the flagships when they came out vs the competition. I'm talking 50K feet not one isolated test. The last two flagships 5s and 6 outgunned the competition in all but a few tests.
Not gonna be careful; you're trolling, plain and simple.
You act like a smart poster so if if you were, you'd know some media outlets are in Apple pockets. And that goes for a lot of these companies so it's not just apple.
Finally, Apple is great but it's fan base is strong and that amounts to revenue. Therefore, Apple's numbers will always be strong but that doesn't reflect on their devices; they lack hardware specs and the OS is lacking in major areas.
Enjoy the rest of your day
Your not "gonna" because you know if links are posted, what they will show is that my statements are fairly true.
But be careful with the name calling as the rules are against name-calling as much as trolling; of which I invite you to show me where I am grossly incorrect. Simply making a high-level observation is not trolling and you certainly can prove me wrong.
Here's one link:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/5
You have a nice day.
Fairly true? I'd thought you would have a bit more confidence than that.Your not "gonna" because you know if links are posted, what they will show is that my statements are fairly true.
But be careful with the name calling as the rules are against name-calling as much as trolling; of which I invite you to show me where I am grossly incorrect. Simply making a high-level observation is not trolling and you certainly can prove me wrong.
Here's one link:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/5
You have a nice day.
If you got the time list these sites, I don't need links.
It's Your Choice
Overall, I just wanted to say, this is a ongoing battle between Android and iOS.
Apple, Android and the Windows Phone are all completely different types of OS's and, it is up to your personal preference to decide which one is the best choice for you as a daily driver. Don't be afraid to try something new! By doing this, you could find the OS of your dream!
Overall, I just wanted to say, this is a ongoing battle between Android and iOS.
Apple, Android and the Windows Phone are all completely different types of OS's and, it is up to your personal preference to decide which one is the best choice for you as a daily driver
. Don't be afraid to try something new! By doing this, you could find the OS of your dream!
You act like Android doesn't have something like iMessage or Face time. They do, it's called Hangouts and it works just fine for those things.
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These threads always ends up the same. Arguing which is better. What's better for me isn't always what's better for someone else. I do not care at all what a benchmark or what Anatech, or whatever it is called says. I care what I say and I like Android and it's customization and other things is does better for me than iOS. Its ecosystem is just fine and syncs with my other devices and they don't have to be running Android to do that. Use what you like, be happy about it and move on.
Agreed! these topics always get overrun by haters. You can't have a simple conversation without a purest intervening and polluting the topic. Don't get me wrong, it goes both ways but most of the time it's one particular group; just look at the Galaxy threads.
We agree about having a conversation where there is no name calling and people want to participate in an intelligent conversation without saying things are far far from afield.
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Youre right because things that are simply not true are said, starting with the iPhone 6 being under-specced.
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iPhone 6 is under-specced compared to other flagship devices. To Apple's defense, they've done an excellent job in optimizing iOS that it's okay to have 1gb of ram.
Same thing with Macs, they're overpriced and under-specced compared to PC's.
Why does Apple do this? I don't know but can you imagine the possibilities of an 3gb quad core processor on an iPhone!? Sounds pretty sweet to me.
Same thing with Macs, they're overpriced and under-specced compared to PC's.
Why does Apple do this? I don't know but can you imagine the possibilities of an 3gb quad core processor on an iPhone!? Sounds pretty sweet to me.
Doesn't mean the iphone 6 underperforms though; which is the point. Android seems to require more horsepower to provide an equivalent level of service.
Thanks I7guy, I agree with your statement
. All of us in this thread should be able to get along while having a discussion. Please do not insult the other group with name calling, etc. Please present your facts and, opinions in a responsible respectful way.Thanks guys for your coroperation
I can tell you that my iPad Air 2 flys, its triple core with 2gb of ram.
The iPhone 6S will be a beast since it will use the same cpu and ram.
Honestly the iPhone 6 is an iPhone 5S with a bigger screen. Performance is basically the same between them.