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txa1265

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I do still have my Palm Pre and Palm Pixi and tried to get the Pre working again last year ... But it is amazing how time and software renders the device pretty much useless. Sad - especially since I can pull out my 15+ year old Psion 5mx and it is much more useful.
 

sk1wbw

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May 28, 2011
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I do still have my Palm Pre and Palm Pixi and tried to get the Pre working again last year ... But it is amazing how time and software renders the device pretty much useless. Sad - especially since I can pull out my 15+ year old Psion 5mx and it is much more useful.

I had HUGE hopes for webOS. Outstanding OS placed on top of pure **** for hardware.
 

hallux

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I've used both iOS and android a lot and always come back to iOS. Mainly for iMessage and FaceTime, since my wife loves her iPhone. It's too hard to be on Android when the family is on iOS

Also at work I get NO 4G AT&T signal but get free wifi, so I can still send iMessage texts just fine. If I was on android I wouldn't be able to send any texts from work.

Half my family is on iOS, half is on Android (seriously, split right down the middle). We don't use the video chatting all that much, and if we do it's usually FT-FT on Macs on both ends.

As for WiFi messaging, I'm on Android and can text over WiFi. It requires Hangouts on a Nexus device and Project Fi, but it CAN be done. Shoot, I can text from any web browser that's signed in to my Google account, I can make a PHONE CALL from any browser signed in to my Google account and my phone can be turned off while doing so.

I left android due to S6 edge being a laggy mess and got tired of Howe frustrating it was but S7 edge appears to be much improved and is an amazing device. There are positives for both but for me now that I've got apple products that works well with each other it's the most dependable option to me. That's not to say I don't want the S7 edge as I do as it's fantastic for what it does but for me iPhone just works better...I can leave my phone upstairs and text on my iPad which is very ideal.

I shudder when I read people that post stuff like the bolded. Samsung devices are SAMSUNG'S take on Android, they should not be considered representative of the Android OS as a whole. There are SOOO MANY other options available it's not even funny. Some even perform better than the Samsung devices (such as my Nexus 6P). People get so locked-in and hyper-focused on one brand then complain when devices from that manufacturer's devices lag or that manufacturer is slow to update their device. Of course they do, Samsung dumps Touchwiz on their devices and it lags the device! People swear off an entire mobile OS because "Samsung sucks" or Motorola isn't going to update this device anymore", or whatever, but there are CHOICES with Android.

FYI, my Android device history - Phones: Motorola, HTC, Motorola, Nexus (Huawei) tablets: Acer, Samsung (next one will likely be Nexus). As you can see, I don't lock in to one manufacturer, I chose based on what fit my needs with the best performance, at the time. As I noted earlier in the thread, I was given an iPad for work and while it was useful for work purposes, I just couldn't see myself being able to use it for my personal needs.
 

2ilent8cho

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Should the thread title not be iOS vs Android or iPhone vs Samsung Galaxy ? iPhone is a product, Android is an operating system.
 
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The Game 161

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Half my family is on iOS, half is on Android (seriously, split right down the middle). We don't use the video chatting all that much, and if we do it's usually FT-FT on Macs on both ends.

As for WiFi messaging, I'm on Android and can text over WiFi. It requires Hangouts on a Nexus device and Project Fi, but it CAN be done. Shoot, I can text from any web browser that's signed in to my Google account, I can make a PHONE CALL from any browser signed in to my Google account and my phone can be turned off while doing so.



I shudder when I read people that post stuff like the bolded. Samsung devices are SAMSUNG'S take on Android, they should not be considered representative of the Android OS as a whole. There are SOOO MANY other options available it's not even funny. Some even perform better than the Samsung devices (such as my Nexus 6P). People get so locked-in and hyper-focused on one brand then complain when devices from that manufacturer's devices lag or that manufacturer is slow to update their device. Of course they do, Samsung dumps Touchwiz on their devices and it lags the device! People swear off an entire mobile OS because "Samsung sucks" or Motorola isn't going to update this device anymore", or whatever, but there are CHOICES with Android.

FYI, my Android device history - Phones: Motorola, HTC, Motorola, Nexus (Huawei) tablets: Acer, Samsung (next one will likely be Nexus). As you can see, I don't lock in to one manufacturer, I chose based on what fit my needs with the best performance, at the time. As I noted earlier in the thread, I was given an iPad for work and while it was useful for work purposes, I just couldn't see myself being able to use it for my personal needs.
Where did I say android was bad? I was posting my experience with the company who I had bought phones with previously with. Last time I checked Samsung is android

Previously I was with iPhone before that so my option was to go where I'm used to

After my last Samsung phone I even said I was more likely to get a nexus than a Samsung.
 
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hallux

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Where did I say android was bad? I was posting my experience with the company who I had bought phones with previously with. Last time I checked Samsung is android

Previously I was with iPhone before that so my option was to go where I'm used to

After my last Samsung phone I even said I was more likely to get a nexus than a Samsung.

Sure, Samsung runs Android, but Samsung molests the OS so much it shouldn't be considered representative of the OS as a whole. I would say the same thing about LG and HTC. The only OEM that doesn't make significant, sweeping, changes to the OS is Motorola - they make a tweak here and there, add a couple apps (that get updated on the Google Play store, unlike Samsung that updates their apps only on OS updates or through their own app store) and release the OS to the devices. Motorola is as pure of an Android experience as you'll get without getting a Nexus.

Swearing off Android because your Samsung experience was bad is like saying you'll never fly in a Boeing aircraft again because your experience on SouthWest was bad. SouthWest is operating the plane and providing the pilot, the plane itself is just fine and with another crew or carrier could give a VERY different experience. I know, the hardware and software (so to speak) are swapped but it's kind of the same thing. By the way, those 737-800's with the Sky interior are NICE!
 

The Game 161

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Sure, Samsung runs Android, but Samsung molests the OS so much it shouldn't be considered representative of the OS as a whole. I would say the same thing about LG and HTC. The only OEM that doesn't make significant, sweeping, changes to the OS is Motorola - they make a tweak here and there, add a couple apps (that get updated on the Google Play store, unlike Samsung that updates their apps only on OS updates or through their own app store) and release the OS to the devices. Motorola is as pure of an Android experience as you'll get without getting a Nexus.

Swearing off Android because your Samsung experience was bad is like saying you'll never fly in a Boeing aircraft again because your experience on SouthWest was bad. SouthWest is operating the plane and providing the pilot, the plane itself is just fine and with another crew or carrier could give a VERY different experience. I know, the hardware and software (so to speak) are swapped but it's kind of the same thing. By the way, those 737-800's with the Sky interior are NICE!
Where am I swearing off android exactly?

I've stated the advantages to the iPhone and why it's a better for my everyday use. Never said I wouldn't go android. I've even been looking at android as a 2nd phone so I don't where the swearing off android is coming from
 
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hallux

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Where am I swearing off android exactly?

I've stated the advantages to the iPhone and why it's a better for my everyday use. Never said I wouldn't go android. I've even been looking at android as a 2nd phone so I don't where the swearing off android is coming from

Apologies. Usually the trial of a Samsung device, then complaints about lag and a move to iOS is accompanied by a "I'll never try that again".
 

The Game 161

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Apologies. Usually the trial of a Samsung device, then complaints about lag and a move to iOS is accompanied by a "I'll never try that again".
I did say I wouldn't go Samsung again but after seeing the S7 edge I have taken back that feeling. I'm interested what the next nexus will be like so may look at that.

S7 edge is a phone I would look into but money wise I don't think it's possible right now.
 

jamesrick80

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If you are like me, you would come to appreciate touch wiz especially on the latest samsung devices. Slowly but surely android has adopted almost every feature that TouchWiz had before it.
 

es5694

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Should the thread title not be iOS vs Android or iPhone vs Samsung Galaxy ? iPhone is a product, Android is an operating system.

From Android I meant to say all the android phones. I just kept it short. Instead of writing Android phones I wrote just Android. And I guess people got it. :)
 

5105973

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Sure, Samsung runs Android, but Samsung molests the OS so much it shouldn't be considered representative of the OS as a whole. I would say the same thing about LG and HTC. The only OEM that doesn't make significant, sweeping, changes to the OS is Motorola - they make a tweak here and there, add a couple apps (that get updated on the Google Play store, unlike Samsung that updates their apps only on OS updates or through their own app store) and release the OS to the devices. Motorola is as pure of an Android experience as you'll get without getting a Nexus.

Swearing off Android because your Samsung experience was bad is like saying you'll never fly in a Boeing aircraft again because your experience on SouthWest was bad. SouthWest is operating the plane and providing the pilot, the plane itself is just fine and with another crew or carrier could give a VERY different experience. I know, the hardware and software (so to speak) are swapped but it's kind of the same thing. By the way, those 737-800's with the Sky interior are NICE!
Well to be fair, part of the "Android Experience" to people like myself, who are uninitiated into what pure Android is like, is dealing with the fact that Android does get customized by different phone manufacturers and different carriers.

Someone who is not particularly tech savvy can pick up an iPhone and get pretty much the same experience of iOS as someone who is tech savvy. My husband and I are an example of that.

But if he and I were to leave iOS behind and go into Android phones, I guarantee that unless he guides and advises me, his experience will be entirely different from mine. He could hack the crap out of an Android phone from any manufacturer. I'd be stuck with whatever the manufacturer and carrier load onto it. For me, Samsung and Touchwhiz would be all I know of the Android experience unless I can find it in me to learn how to dig myself out. I like the S7 Edge's look and feel and the camera. I don't know if I could bring myself to choose hardware that doesn't draw me in just to get a more pure version of Android.

Like it or not, a customer's experience of Android is hard to divorce from manufacturer and carrier bloat unless they are a bit savvy and willing to narrow their hardware choices and cut out a key representative of Android phones, namely Samsung.

At least that's how it looks to me, from the outside looking in and trying to make sense of it all.
 

spinedoc77

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Jun 11, 2009
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Android as an OS is far superior to iOS in my opinion and how I use my phone. With that said, iOS is more stable and provides a more seamless experience if you are invested in their ecosystem. Neither is difficult to use and I have to laugh at those who say they have to spend hours configuring Android, yeah maybe one of those senior citizens phones with the huge buttons are more appropriate.

On the hardware side Apple just kills it, the iPhone is beautiful, although it's marred by the year 2012 size bezels. iPhones also have the hardware mute button, which is very strangely not present in Android phones.
 
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Cnasty

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For me it always comes down to this, plain and simple for my needs.

Apple-amazing software that just integrates perfectly with my life across all devices(Macbook, AppleTV,AW)
Android-easily the best hardware out there as their phones are beautiful from the Nexus 6P to the S7 Edge

Apple hardware in a phone is boring, outdated, and just plain blah.
Android screens are normally beautiful, amazing design, and multiple options (expanded memory, battery replace,etc)

But for me, software wins over design as ease of use and continuity across all devices is more important than a great design for me.

Just my take.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Oct 27, 2009
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If I had an Apple TV, Watch, recent iPad and most of my family and friends had iPhones .......Then I would endure the restrictions of iOS and use an iPhone.

But myself and my social circle is not immersed in the Apple ecosystem.

This is why the Apple's integration and continuity doesn't sway me. Yes, with Apple it might be a simple set it and forget it process to setup, but I can setup the same type of ecosystem without Apple which is more flexible. Sure the initial setup might be more of a manual task, but once that's done, it's smooth sailing.
 
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iSheep5S

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Jun 4, 2013
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I think iPhones for software and hardware wins but...

I get soooo bored after around 6 months and hop back to android. I've had stock nexus and Motorola etc but recently... Well June last year I went with a Galaxy S5 and have enjoyed it since. This coming from an iPhone 6+.

I like the Samsung software its much improved from the S3 I had to ditch asap. I bought an iPhone 5 new just after then got bored in 6 months.

I would miss the way my Samsung works and don't find it slow. Heck I'm typing this on an iPad Pro 12.9 I know speed. The extra functions work for me. I have no idea how you guys/girls are getting laggy S6's. Never had lag unless I have a rouge installed app meaning a lockup requiring a restart.
 

AliMacs

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Oct 8, 2014
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What makes you to choose an IPhone not an Android? I have IPhone just because of it's brand name. What reason do you guys have? please share.

#1 reason: Apple costing too much and giving back so little in value.
#2 reason: Android is a few generations ahead of Apple in terms of customizations and notifications. Encryption may lag behind but with Samsung devices with Knox/Samsung activation, it's quite good.
#3 reason: Much more advanced hardware: S7 Edge - curved screen, super amoled that is so good and how the pixels are so close to the glass it's like printed on the glass. You also get NFC tags, Samsung MST payment system, FAST WIRELESS CHARGING, FAST QUALCOMM 2.0 charging, 3600mAH battery, fast wireless radio, QHD display, VR, dual camera recording, camera system is fantastic and just superb for a smartphone, gorgeous phone design, the list goes on..

It wasn't that easy of a decision, however, going back to an iPhone or sticking with android since I also own a Note series. Bottom line is that I'd buy an iPhone for my mom, dad, and basically a person who just wants a plain Jane, super safe and easy to use smartphone. Someone who doesn't care about customizations or notifications. A person who can just forgive the most recent state of the art hardware but instead choose basic run of the mill hardware and especially for a person who doesn't care about value of a smartphone.

I also highly do not recommend android if you are an iPhone user but thinks android can be as simple as iPHone - it can be if you know what you are doing but out of the box most of the time a typical android buyer will tinker with it to get it to work the way he/she wants. IPhone users will just want a device to work out of the box and it does superbly sans all the customizations and power features.
 
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tallazzPilipino

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got that nomadic lifestyle
I have to have both platforms. and one having a large screen for better viewing and productivity, and a smaller one for convenience.

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^ i prefer the photos & videos out of my Note5, but there just aren't any decent video or editing apps for it like there are for my SE.
 
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