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tbayrgs

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don't think it's anything new to be honest. I think we need to get used to the fact the design is staying the same. Just hope they add more stuff to the phone. Waterproof seems to be coming which is good at least. Wireless charging would be great also but i've heard less about that.

Yup, I'm personally more interested in what's coming in iOS 10. My issues with the iPhone have less to do with the hardware and more about what I can or cannot do on iOS.
 

The Game 161

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Yup, I'm personally more interested in what's coming in iOS 10. My issues with the iPhone have less to do with the hardware and more about what I can or cannot do on iOS.
Weird thing is i'm actually more looking forward to IOS 10 than the iphone 7. At least with apple you know you get updates every year to look forward to even if the phone doesn't come with what you hope. It's why I will always have an iphone one way or another
 

geoff5093

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I like how the FP acts on the 6P. It doesn't have to be pushed to unlock the phone. Agree though that having the FP on the back is not optimal IMHO.
Oh and the capacitive buttons on Samsung phones is still software. It can be switched rather easily. Samsung just won't allow it. But I wish they would. On your 6P you can flash CyanogenMod 13 which allows for a lot more customization and a true battery percentage meter.
It may be software, but the button symbols are cut into the bottom chin. If you switch it with software, the icons won't switch.
 
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Cnasty

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After using the S7E and this outstanding hardware and design, the iPhone is just so blah in comparison in that regard. With that being said I love iOS and own nothing but apple products (macbook, Apple TV,mac desktop,etc) but they really need to do something with this hardware.

If they add waterproofing, wireless charging, and OLED screens, and finally trimming down those damn bezels to make a 5.5 screen feel less wide and tall like the S7E. That would be enough for me. I don't need a complete revamp of the design of the actual phone just things that will improve on an already solid device.
 

epicrayban

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After using the S7E and this outstanding hardware and design, the iPhone is just so blah in comparison in that regard. With that being said I love iOS and own nothing but apple products (macbook, Apple TV,mac desktop,etc) but they really need to do something with this hardware.

If they add waterproofing, wireless charging, and OLED screens, and finally trimming down those damn bezels to make a 5.5 screen feel less wide and tall like the S7E. That would be enough for me. I don't need a complete revamp of the design of the actual phone just things that will improve on an already solid device.


Honestly, when you break down our wishes for the iPhone, most of the things we're looking for aren't that outrageous. Just catch up on a few useful hardware features, and open up iOS a bit. We're not asking for Apple to move mountains here.

And it's a shame we have to wait for sales to take a crack before we start seeing some of these wishes (if any even come true).

I feel sorry for those here too that only measure by sales and profits. What do these people think got Apple into such a strong financial position in the first place? Way to be late to the game.
 

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Honestly, when you break down our wishes for the iPhone, most of the things we're looking for aren't that outrageous. Just catch up on a few useful hardware features, and open up iOS a bit. We're not asking for Apple to move mountains here.

And it's a shame we have to wait for sales to take a crack before we start seeing some of these wishes (if any even come true).

I feel sorry for those here too that only measure by sales and profits. What do these people think got Apple into such a strong financial position in the first place? Way to be late to the game.
That's the thing sales figures aren't a sign of a better product than the other. It's more the brand is so strong and people don't like going against what they are used to.

Waterproof and wireless charging and a better camera on par with the edge would make me get the iPhone 7 with less wasted space otherwise I will happily stick with my 6s plus with my edge. Hell based on rumours I think Iam more likely to get the note 6 than iPhone 7.
 

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After using the S7E and this outstanding hardware and design, the iPhone is just so blah in comparison in that regard. With that being said I love iOS and own nothing but apple products (macbook, Apple TV,mac desktop,etc) but they really need to do something with this hardware.

If they add waterproofing, wireless charging, and OLED screens, and finally trimming down those damn bezels to make a 5.5 screen feel less wide and tall like the S7E. That would be enough for me. I don't need a complete revamp of the design of the actual phone just things that will improve on an already solid device.
You've said it very well.

As a long time Apple customer and enthusiast it's irritating to find my iPhone 6S Plus with its rather astronomical price, trailing so far behind my outstanding Nexus 6P. The gorgeous metal body and unique style of the Nexus puts the mundane look of the J. Ive styled iPhone to shame. While Apple's out posturing, executives acting like rock stars at various high profile events, Google is busy innovating and delivering world class products and services. Very Impressive!

Finally there's the whopping $300 MORE for Apple Tax.
$849 for iPhone, $549 for the Nexus. While I am not price sensitive, I'd be remiss if I failed to point out how greedy Apple is.
 
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I7guy

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You've said it very well.

As a long time Apple customer and enthusiast it's irritating to find my iPhone 6S Plus with its rather astronomical price, trailing so far behind my outstanding Nexus 6P. The gorgeous metal body and unique style of the Nexus puts the mundane look of the J. Ive styled iPhone to shame. While Apple's out posturing, executives acting like rock stars at various high profile events, Google is busy innovating and delivering world class products and services. Very Impressive!

Finally there's the whopping $300 MORE for Apple Tax.
$849 for iPhone, $549 for the Nexus. While I am not price sensitive, I'd be remiss if I failed to point out how greedy Apple is.
Great thing about choices, willingly buying an overpriced piece of technology and the complaining about it on an Internet forum?:confused:
 

The Game 161

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Io think for example when you look at what I paid for my 6s plus 128GB it set me back £789 meanwhile was only £600 for my edge with technically even more storage due to the SD card and at least I know I can continue to add to that with other SD cards if needed. So value for money and if you want to add more onto your device you can

Yes then next iPhone will have 256GB but how much? Think I would be looking at say what, 900 pounds for 256GB? Guess it will seeing as it's 789 for 128GB.

Samsung to me the best thing they did was bringing back SD card storage..and now it's come out there is going to be a 256GB SD card? Bonus.
 
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That's the thing sales figures aren't a sign of a better product than the other. It's more the brand is so strong and people don't like going against what they are used to.

Waterproof and wireless charging and a better camera on par with the edge would make me get the iPhone 7 with less wasted space otherwise I will happily stick with my 6s plus with my edge. Hell based on rumours I think I am more likely to get the note 6 than iPhone 7.
Steve Jobs infused Apple with his Narcissism and Stubborn stance. Apple cannot claim to have invented wireless charging, therefore like spoiled children they aren't about to include it for fear of how they would look. Following the others only happens when Apple is desperate.
 

epicrayban

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That's the thing sales figures aren't a sign of a better product than the other. It's more the brand is so strong and people don't like going against what they are used to.

Waterproof and wireless charging and a better camera on par with the edge would make me get the iPhone 7 with less wasted space otherwise I will happily stick with my 6s plus with my edge. Hell based on rumours I think Iam more likely to get the note 6 than iPhone 7.

Yep.

If all the rumors end up being true, I will surely skip the iPhone 7, and look toward the 10th anniversary new iPhone in 2017.

Then for this year, my eyes will be set on the HTC Nexus.
 
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jamezr

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Steve Jobs infused Apple with his Narcissism and Stubborn stance. Apple cannot claim to have invented wireless charging, therefore like spoiled children they aren't about to include it for fear of how they would look. Following the others only happens when Apple is desperate.
agreed....more than likely they will spin a solution that will only work on iphones. Then say it is different and then charge for over priced new accessories that only works for the iphone.....
 
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epicrayban

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Part of the iOS experience is being charged Apple Tax... :eek:

This article will interest you. I also think it's spot on.

http://www.androidauthority.com/apple-high-prices-iphone-691237/

Why is Apple still able to command such high prices for its iPhones?
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agreed....more than likely they will spin a solution that will only work on iphones. Then say it is different and then charge for over priced new accessories that only works for the iphone.....

I could easily see them do some form of wireless charging but with proprietary products.

But hey, if they can really push the technology forward, even if it's proprietary, that'd still be great. If it's just your standard wireless charger though and its proprietary, that would blow.
 
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jamezr

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But hey, if they can really push the technology forward, even if it's proprietary, that'd still be great. If it's just your standard wireless charger though and its proprietary, that would blow.
I could see them putting their own proprietary solution that will only work with the iPhone 8
 

tbayrgs

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If the rumored changed for the 2017 model are true, I'll be more than happy for the first time to skip a generation of the iPhone. Completely edge to edge display with TouchID and front camera embedded under the display...could be very cool, assuming Apple can nail the software to deal with inadvertent touches at the edges.
 
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The Game 161

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If the rumored changed for the 2017 model are true, I'll be more than happy for the first time to skip a generation of the iPhone. Completely edge to edge display with TouchID and front camera embedded under the display...could be very cool, assuming Apple can nail the software to deal with inadvertent touches at the edges.
agreed, would be a good upgrade from 6s plus no doubt. Be interesting what samsung would bring out in 2017 knowing this is around the corner.
 

epicrayban

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If the rumored changed for the 2017 model are true, I'll be more than happy for the first time to skip a generation of the iPhone. Completely edge to edge display with TouchID and front camera embedded under the display...could be very cool, assuming Apple can nail the software to deal with inadvertent touches at the edges.

In this scenario of yours, does that mean no more physical home button, too?

I hope both Apple and Samsung are looking into fingerprint scanner embedded under the display, and going without a physical home button.

Surely, 3D Touch will be involved for Apple's solution... maybe a light touch starts the display to see notifications and whatnot, and then a more firm press down reads your fingerprint and unlocks. That'd be cool.

EDIT: Also, what's that "fake click" technology they are using in new Macbook trackpads? Maybe that technology could get in there too and give users a fake click so that it would feel just as if you were clicking the physical home button anyway to wake the device.

I really like this idea if Apple can get it to work!
 

tbayrgs

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In this scenario of yours, does that mean no more physical home button, too?

I hope both Apple and Samsung are looking into fingerprint scanner embedded under the display, and going without a physical home button.

Surely, 3D Touch will be involved for Apple's solution... maybe a light touch starts the display to see notifications and whatnot, and then a more firm press down reads your fingerprint and unlocks. That'd be cool.

EDIT: Also, what's that "fake click" technology they are using in new Macbook trackpads? Maybe that technology could get in there too and give users a fake click so that it would feel just as if you were clicking the physical home button anyway to wake the device.

I really like this idea if Apple can get it to work!

Yeah, everything integrated under the display, according to the details on the front page story. I'm guessing they'd also have to utilize additional gestures--curious how they'd differentiate between an app specific 3D Touch and a 'Home button' touch. The other problem to solve is how 3D Touch would work on an OLED display as presently it has to do with physical deformity of the LCD pixels (or something like that, be definitely not via pressures sensors a la MacBook).

The 'simulated clicks' on the Mac touchpad are created with vibration motors that simulate the feel of a phyical click---really creepy how it feels like you're physically clicking down on the touchpad. It basically sounds similar to the haptic feedback we get on numerous other devices, including the Apple Watch.
 
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epicrayban

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Random bug or potential sign for future customizations in iOS? Hm!

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Bug-...ar--heres-how-to-take-advantage-of-it_id80978

Bug in iOS 9.3 lets you make folder icons circular – here's how to take advantage of it


OMG-circles.jpg
 
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jamesrick80

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Honestly, when you break down our wishes for the iPhone, most of the things we're looking for aren't that outrageous. Just catch up on a few useful hardware features, and open up iOS a bit. We're not asking for Apple to move mountains here.

And it's a shame we have to wait for sales to take a crack before we start seeing some of these wishes (if any even come true).

I feel sorry for those here too that only measure by sales and profits. What do these people think got Apple into such a strong financial position in the first place? Way to be late to the game.

Most of the things many wish for are things Android already has......simple solution move on to android.
 
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The Game 161

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or do both...best of both world

Thats what I have done...it wasn't until I downloaded nova again and realised wow you really can make your home screen whatever the hell you like...
 
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epicrayban

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Most of the things many wish for are things Android already has......simple solution move on to android.

I have.

But that doesn't mean I don't want the iPhone to get such features, too, so that I might enjoy the things that the iPhone still leads the industry in (namely updates and support and a few other little advantages).

Also, I'm an Apple fan. I love my other Apple products. And I like Tim Cook. I would like to see them competing as they once did with the iPhone. It's because I've moved onto Android that I come to say that I don't feel the iPhone is competing enough. And when I say competing, I mean at the actual technology and user experience. There is very much room for Apple to grow with their smartphone. That's true of the competition, too. But at this point in time, it's especially true for the Apple iPhone.

It's time they step up their game. I think Tim Cook knows this. I sincerely hope the modest-update rumors eventually prove false.
 

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I have.

But that doesn't mean I don't want the iPhone to get such features, too, so that I might enjoy the things that the iPhone still leads the industry in (namely updates and support and a few other little advantages).

Also, I'm an Apple fan. I love my other Apple products. And I like Tim Cook. I would like to see them competing as they once did with the iPhone. It's because I've moved onto Android that I come to say that I don't feel the iPhone is competing enough. And when I say competing, I mean at the actual technology and user experience. There is very much room for Apple to grow with their smartphone. That's true of the competition, too. But at this point in time, it's especially true for the Apple iPhone.

It's time they step up their game. I think Tim Cook knows this. I sincerely hope the modest-update rumors eventually prove false.
I'm especially happy with my cross platform combo.

1) Nexus 6P as my primary mission critical smartphone.
2) iPhone 6S Plus as a secondary phone for variety.

From the dawn of the smartphone era I've been enjoying both Android and iOS concurrently. Two excellent operating systems, each with their own unique characteristics. Having bought most every flagship upon its release from the majority of manufacturers, the education and experiences have been priceless.

Years ago over 70% of the smartphones I bought were obtained through overseas sources since none of those GSM models were designed for, or sold in the USA. Close attention was paid to be sure they had compatible frequencies with AT&T my primary carrier. Long before most other than hardcore enthusiasts were aware GSMArena.com was my lifeline to specs, pictures and all relevant data.

Fast forward to 2016 with the ever present smartphone as the center of individuals communication and information, largely thanks to Google and Apple's stellar contributions consumers are more empowered than ever.
 
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macfacts

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... I got tired of praying that the app I download on my Android phone doesn't mess with my battery life.

Not fanboing but just went with what makes my life easier at the end of the day. I use M$, Linux, Google/Android, and Apple products depending on needs.

So why is it I read about people complaining about apps like Facebook, etc draining battery on iOS?
 
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