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If you are a fan of the google ecosystem then you need to stick to android, get a Pixel 2 and a chrome book, then never look back.


Really??? OP could just as easily stick with the S8 Plus and purchase a Samsung Chromebook Plus. It's still Android and chrome OS.
 
Your warranty is only as good as the consumer laws in your country. If the laws allow it, Apple will ignore you. (Example default 2 yr warranty in Europe vs 1 yr in usa)

Recently there were stories of batteries expanding in iPhone 8's. One was in China from someone who bought from JD.com instead of directly from Apple. Apple didn't do anything to help the customer.

"In this particular case, the Chinese report indicates that the person who received the phone is not very happy with the customer service he has received so far. Liu bought the device from JD.com which means Apple itself will not help him out (according to the paper)."

Source: https://9to5mac.com/2017/10/06/iphone-8-separated-chassis-battery-incident/
I have serviced my Verizon iPhone 5 in Japan, and my Japanese iPhone 6S in Singapore. Zero issues. The Apple stores helped me without any problems. Unless I know the exact story of that article you mentioned, I'm going with what I experienced myself.

Compare that to my experience with Samsung support. Samsung USA refused support and told me they do not support unlocked devices, period. Samsung Singapore told me they only support local SKUs. And that's for a flagship Galaxy S4. Sorry, if I'm paying that much money, I'm going Apple. For Android, like I said, I can get a Xiaomi twice a year, and still save money compared to buying Samsung crap.
 
A common theme is "the ecosystem". Perhaps someone can enlighten me but I fail to understand this. Google photos can easily substitute for syncing your photos between machines, devices and it's also free. Facetime can easily be replaced by google duo. The only thing I can come up with is Imessage is you own a mac, that can be replaced as well with similar functionality but I'll admit it's not as good.

If you did switch sure you lose all the apps, and would have to find replacements, but you gain the advantage is customization, being able to pick your own/sms messaging app.

I would have went Iphone X is they introduced some newer technology, but with the highlight being FaceID, it's just not worth a $1,000 in my opinion. Lower battery life, smaller screen, NFC locked to the inferior apple pay..

I'm not bashing Apple, I think both devices are great, but when one has inferior technology and cost more, you have to start to questioning things.
 
A common theme is "the ecosystem". Perhaps someone can enlighten me but I fail to understand this. Google photos can easily substitute for syncing your photos between machines, devices and it's also free. Facetime can easily be replaced by google duo. The only thing I can come up with is Imessage is you own a mac, that can be replaced as well with similar functionality but I'll admit it's not as good.

If you did switch sure you lose all the apps, and would have to find replacements, but you gain the advantage is customization, being able to pick your own/sms messaging app.

I would have went Iphone X is they introduced some newer technology, but with the highlight being FaceID, it's just not worth a $1,000 in my opinion. Lower battery life, smaller screen, NFC locked to the inferior apple pay..

I'm not bashing Apple, I think both devices are great, but when one has inferior technology and cost more, you have to start to questioning things.

What makes the iPhone X tech inferior?
 
I'm not bashing Apple, I think both devices are great, but when one has inferior technology and cost more, you have to start to questioning things.
Then you have to ask yourself why Samsung priced the Galaxy S8 so high when Xiaomi Mi6 has the same SoC (SD835), more RAM and dual camera, minus the fancy screen, for about half the price.
I fail to understand why people want to pay so much money for a Samsung Android phone.
 
I had the S8 for 3 months now we all know the positives so just to note the things I didn’t like. The basic apps like podcast an news app on iOS just wasn’t easy to replicate on android.

The edge screen causing accidental clicks.

I look forward to the iPhone X cause it takes the best thing about the S8 that oled screen an places it infront of iOS with a even better bezel less design than every iPhone before it.

I just cannot wait!!!

The iphone x is far from bezelless...
 
What makes the iPhone X tech inferior?

Smaller screen, smaller battery, NFC locked to Applepay, Applepay itself, 3GB vs 4GB ram, no headphone jack, no fast wireless charging, lower waterproofing.
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Then you have to ask yourself why Samsung priced the Galaxy S8 so high when Xiaomi Mi6 has the same SoC (SD835), more RAM and dual camera, minus the fancy screen, for about half the price.
I fail to understand why people want to pay so much money for a Samsung Android phone.

Because Xiaomi is known by very few, it's like Heinz ketchup vs Kroger brand. Samsung has been doing this for a long, long time. You get the research and development behind the product. A product like that is going to be a drop off quality wise.
 
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Smaller screen, smaller battery, NFC locked to Applepay, Applepay itself, 3GB vs 4GB ram, no headphone jack, no fast wireless charging, lower waterproofing.

Well smaller screen is more of a preference. That doesn’t necessarily mean it’s inferior. They are Samsung screens which everyone has said for years are the best. When it comes to battery life, they’ll be comparable, so I am not sure why it matters. iOS usually does a good job of power management. Same argument with the RAM. No headphone jack you could argue, but a lot of people are perfectly happy using Bluetooth. I am not sure what fast wireless charging is so I can’t comment, but I thought they had the same rating for waterproofing? I could be wrong. You have every right to prefer one over the other, but I guess Apple users tend to look at the overall package instead of necessarily specs. And definitely not compared to any competition on the android side. Apple tends to excel at build quality, performance, security, ecosystem, and support. With all of these coupled with a new advancements to the iPhone line, it is worth the cost. Just my opinion.
 
Then you have to ask yourself why Samsung priced the Galaxy S8 so high when Xiaomi Mi6 has the same SoC (SD835), more RAM and dual camera, minus the fancy screen, for about half the price.
I fail to understand why people want to pay so much money for a Samsung Android phone.
Because to many people buy a Samsung and Apple, if they don’t the price will go down!
 
The iphone x is far from bezelless...

No phone is completely bezel-less. Its like most wireless headphones that still have wires connecting the headsets lool.

but the iPhone X and the S8 are the closest things to bezel free phones you can get. I think the iPhone X has the edge tho more screen to body ratio.

Show me an actual phone (not concept phone) that has better screen to body ratio than the iPhone X?
 
Because Xiaomi is known by very few, it's like Heinz ketchup vs Kroger brand. Samsung has been doing this for a long, long time. You get the research and development behind the product. A product like that is going to be a drop off quality wise.
Unless you're a s.korean (which is understandable to be patriotic and defend Samsung), talking about qualities might work 5 or 10 years ago. Chinese phones qualities are up to par with the other brands now. Heck, look at Mi Mix, a ceramic bezel-less phone. Xiaomi even does its own SoC (Surge S1). And again, I can buy a Xiaomi, replace it twice a year, and I still save money from buying a Samsung.
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Because to many people buy a Samsung and Apple, if they don’t the price will go down!
Again, I have to ask those who are willing to pay $$$ for a Samsung phone, to only run the same apps as a Xiaomi for half the price. Seriously, people that are bashing Apple and yet go with Samsung should re-check their arguments.
 
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A common theme is "the ecosystem". Perhaps someone can enlighten me but I fail to understand this. Google photos can easily substitute for syncing your photos between machines, devices and it's also free. Facetime can easily be replaced by google duo. The only thing I can come up with is Imessage is you own a mac, that can be replaced as well with similar functionality but I'll admit it's not as good.

When I take a photo on my phone, it shows up on my iPad, Mac and Apple TV without me having to do anything else.

I can share photo albums and can drop a photo into an album (from my iPhone, Mac or iPad) and they all are synced.

I can buy cloud storage for backups, photos, etc. and have that shared so all family members can use it.

I can use Find my friends to know where my family members are when we are going to meet somewhere.

When I get a text on my phone, I can reply from my iPad (with keyboard) or Mac.

Apps purchased on my iPhone can be shared across family members.

For me, when it comes to “ecosystem” it’s also that it incorporates not just me but other family members that it integrates with.

I’m sure I could do something with Google Photos, but it seems like it would be more difficult managing photos and albums and it’s always an extra app to install and then having to sync.

There’s a lot of little things too, like when I went to set up my iPhone 8, I can restore the backup from my 7 and go through a few screens to set up fingerprint etc and away I go. I’ve never been able to set up a new android device to have it be an exact copy of my last phone. It’s always redownloading apps, setting up accounts again, etc. etc. I can even set up a new iPad using my lPhone backup to so I don’t have to set that stuff up.

So it’s not just about the ecosystem of Apple Services (like photos, messages, etc) but also about how their hardware devices all interact. My Airpods auto connect to my iPhone and iPad for example.
 
Again, I have to ask those who are willing to pay $$$ for a iPhone X, to only run the same apps as a iPhone SE for half the price. Seriously, people that are bashing the SE and yet go with the X should re-check their arguments.

FTFY
 
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Smaller screen, smaller battery, NFC locked to Applepay, Applepay itself, 3GB vs 4GB ram, no headphone jack, no fast wireless charging, lower waterproofing.
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Because Xiaomi is known by very few, it's like Heinz ketchup vs Kroger brand. Samsung has been doing this for a long, long time. You get the research and development behind the product. A product like that is going to be a drop off quality wise.
smaller battery yet battery wise i think you will see the x having better battery life or at worse even

the ram disussion is pointless as android generally needs alot more ram than iphones

wireless fast charging is coming with an update

waterproofing? cmon there isn't any real difference in IP67 to IP68. Not unless you are on the beach everyday

you really are reaching here. Tech wise the x is on par with the flagships from android. Better or not depends on your needs
 
No phone is completely bezel-less. Its like most wireless headphones that still have wires connecting the headsets lool.

but the iPhone X and the S8 are the closest things to bezel free phones you can get. I think the iPhone X has the edge tho more screen to body ratio.

Show me an actual phone (not concept phone) that has better screen to body ratio than the iPhone X?


Off the top of my head i know the gs8 and gs8 + do, the note 8, and the essential phone all are rated higher with my screen to body ratio.

But they are all pretty close
 
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No phone is completely bezel-less. Its like most wireless headphones that still have wires connecting the headsets lool.

but the iPhone X and the S8 are the closest things to bezel free phones you can get. I think the iPhone X has the edge tho more screen to body ratio.

Show me an actual phone (not concept phone) that has better screen to body ratio than the iPhone X?
The Note 8, the S8, the S8+ are all over 83% screen to body ratio. The LOL iPhone X is under 83%. It’s also not edge to edge.
 
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waterproofing? cmon there isn't any real difference in IP67 to IP68. Not unless you are on the beach everyday

Especially since from people doing real world tests it seems like the iPhones are AT LEAST as water proof as Samsung phones. Remember they don't send these devices off to get tested and assigned a rating, they target a rating and then the device is tested to see if it meets that specific rating
 
Show me an actual phone (not concept phone) that has better screen to body ratio than the iPhone X?

Just posted this in another thread. Gives you a good idea where they all stand.

Essential PH-1:
  • Screen-to-body ratio: 84.9 percent
  • Screen size: 5.71 inches

Samsung Galaxy S8, S8+, and Note 8
  • Screen-to-body ratio: 83.6 percent, 84 percent, and 83.2 percent
  • Screen size: 5.8 inches, 6.2 inches, and 6.3 inches

Xiaomi Mi Mix
  • Screen-to-body ratio: 83.6 percent
  • Screen size: 6.4 inches

Iphone X
  • Screen-to-body ratio: 82.9 percent
  • Screen size: 5.8 inches

LG V30
  • Screen-to-body ratio: 81.2 percent
  • Screen size: 6 inches

LG G6
  • Screen-to-body ratio: 78.6 percent
  • Screen size: 5.7 inches

Google Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL
  • Screen-to-body ratio: 67.9 percent and 76.7 Percent
  • Screen size: 5 inches and 6 inches

HTC U11
  • Screen-to-body ratio: 71.4 percent
  • Screen size: 5.5 inches
 
Just posted this in another thread. Gives you a good idea where they all stand.

Essential PH-1:
  • Screen-to-body ratio: 84.9 percent
  • Screen size: 5.71 inches

Samsung Galaxy S8, S8+, and Note 8
  • Screen-to-body ratio: 83.6 percent, 84 percent, and 83.2 percent
  • Screen size: 5.8 inches, 6.2 inches, and 6.3 inches

Xiaomi Mi Mix
  • Screen-to-body ratio: 83.6 percent
  • Screen size: 6.4 inches

Iphone X
  • Screen-to-body ratio: 82.9 percent
  • Screen size: 5.8 inches

LG V30
  • Screen-to-body ratio: 81.2 percent
  • Screen size: 6 inches

LG G6
  • Screen-to-body ratio: 78.6 percent
  • Screen size: 5.7 inches

Google Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL
  • Screen-to-body ratio: 67.9 percent and 76.7 Percent
  • Screen size: 5 inches and 6 inches

HTC U11
  • Screen-to-body ratio: 71.4 percent
  • Screen size: 5.5 inches


The foreheads/chins on those phones are fat. I prefer iPhone X's small notch a million times over those.
 
The foreheads/chins on those phones are fat. I prefer iPhone X's small notch a million times over those.

Nah, they're far from fat on the Galaxy S and Note 8. Even if they keep those bezels for the next few years, they'll still have a better looking and symmetrical design language than the iPhone. But I gotta ask, where was your opinion of fat bezels all these years while the iPhones had/have truly fat bezels?
 
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... I don't like Bixby...
To Bixby, say this: 'Open Play Store and download Google Keep'
Say the same to Siri and Google Assistant. Tell me what you see,

For the first time, I am voting to keep Bixby on my Note 8. It is genuinely useful and does things faster on my phone than I could. I am blown away by Bixby actually....

...
but the iPhone X and the S8 are the closest things to bezel free phones you can get. I think the iPhone X has the edge tho more screen to body ratio.

Show me an actual phone (not concept phone) that has better screen to body ratio than the iPhone X?
iPhone's 'better' ratio comes at the expense of the god forsaken notch :-(
I can't believe how Apple's fans can justify it.
To your second point, Mi Mix screen-to-body ratio is at 91% !

When I take a photo on my phone, it shows up on my iPad, Mac and Apple TV without me having to do anything else.

I can share photo albums and can drop a photo into an album (from my iPhone, Mac or iPad) and they all are synced.

I can buy cloud storage for backups, photos, etc. and have that shared so all family members can use it.

I can use Find my friends to know where my family members are when we are going to meet somewhere.

When I get a text on my phone, I can reply from my iPad (with keyboard) or Mac.

Apps purchased on my iPhone can be shared across family members.
For me, when it comes to “ecosystem” it’s also that it incorporates not just me but other family members that it integrates with.

I’m sure I could do something with Google Photos, but it seems like it would be more difficult managing photos and albums and it’s always an extra app to install and then having to sync.

There’s a lot of little things too, like when I went to set up my iPhone 8, I can restore the backup from my 7 and go through a few screens to set up fingerprint etc and away I go. I’ve never been able to set up a new android device to have it be an exact copy of my last phone. It’s always redownloading apps, setting up accounts again, etc. etc. I can even set up a new iPad using my lPhone backup to so I don’t have to set that stuff up.

So it’s not just about the ecosystem of Apple Services (like photos, messages, etc) but also about how their hardware devices all interact. My Airpods auto connect to my iPhone and iPad for example.

The photo stuff can be easily done via Google Photos and it costs you nothing! And you are willing to pay for Apple's storage tiers but have an issue downloading an 'extra' app :)

Play Store has a family library as well.

How many times a year do you buy a new phone that a one-time setup becomes so bothersome?

Apple has got Airpods. Not sure how the new Google ones will perform. But I am not sure whether this convenience is worth paying the hundred of dollars of premium Apple demands with every iPhone.

Where Apple is an absolute winner is how the apps made for iOS perform better on the iPhone. Not to say that all Android implementations suck but it is apparently easier on iOS to develop a high quality app and this is Apple's strongest advantage.

Personally, I have made a choice to use the Note 8 as my primary phone while keeping the 7 as a backup. I am ok with micro stutters here and there cause the phone and the ecosystem offers so much more!
 
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