iPhone's sales flatten out google's surges

[maflynn]

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I'm sure iPhone sales will gain steam once the fourth Gen model is released.

Without question but apple is now fighting a competitor (google) who's has a number of hardware vendors in their pocket which means they'll be churning out new phones far more frequently across all cell phone providers where as apple releases one and only one phone annually. Major updates are also annual and minor ones appear to be almost non existent. (3 minor updates in 9 months)

 

[ChazUK]

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I'm sure iPhone sales will gain steam once the fourth Gen model is released.

Without question but apple is now fighting a competitor (google) who's has a number of hardware vendors in their pocket which means they'll be churning out new phones far more frequently across all cell phone providers where as apple releases one and only one phone annually. Major updates are also annual and minor ones appear to be almost non existent. (3 minor updates in 9 months)

I think eventually the numbers game (marketshare and sales) will no longer be touted as the big thing by iPhone fans if it does pan out like that.

The hard thing for Apple is having such a small selection of devices means that a 6 month update stream would make people "wait for the next one in a few weeks/months" as it will most likely be better. This will also affect Android handsets but thanks to sheer volume of choice, even low end phones like the HTC Tattoo add to the whole marketshare number. With Android there is a handset for every demographic and budget.

 

[*LTD*]

Without question but apple is now fighting a competitor (google) who's has a number of hardware vendors in their pocket which means they'll be churning out new phones far more frequently across all cell phone providers where as apple releases one and only one phone annually. Major updates are also annual and minor ones appear to be almost non existent. (3 minor updates in 9 months)

Apple can do a lot more with a lot less.

More news. Apparently, the real battle is between Microsoft and Google?

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...h_as_microsoft_google_prepare_for_battle.html

 

[zap2]

Actually that would mean that Palm's sales would increase not decrease. We see a reduction in overall Palm sales. That's in line with other people's expectations. Palm is quickly being cast aside in the smartphone sector. Even with going verizon their sales have been anemic at best.

I'm sorry, but what would mean Palm sales would increase and not decrease?

I was saying since Jan 2010(which is the latest info from the graph) Palm has really stepped up its game, and that this graph is painting a short term picture that is better for Google then reality is

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Apple can do a lot more with a lot less.

More news. Apparently, the real battle is between Microsoft and Google?

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...h_as_microsoft_google_prepare_for_battle.html

I do not think apple can do more with less. Apple has the take it or leave it approach and does not give you any choose so sales of its one model are going to be a lot higher than one that has several choices to get what you want.

I know a lot of people (myself included) that really like and want a hardware keyboard and not willing to give it up to go touch screen only. Now as it stands RIM has set the standard in hardware keyboards. Others like the slider for the how the keyboard kicks out. Now the question will be when some one gets a good keyboard on a slider. I am looking forward to when the blackberry 9700a coming out and seeing how that all works.

Android phones gives you choices in the hardware side and on the OS side it is catching up and in some areas better than the iPhone.

 

[Nausicaa]

I'm sure iPhone sales will gain steam once the fourth Gen model is released.

Lets not forget that for many owners of the original 3G, contract time is almost up. Apple will sell tons of 4G phones to previous iPhone customers in addition to new adopters.

 

[DaveSW]

1) some people are buying iPod Touch instead of the iPhone (if their satisfied with their Verizon/Sprint/T-Mobile service)

2) some people are waiting for the iPad

3) some people are waiting for the iPhone 4G

 

[ChazUK]

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1) some people are buying iPod Touch instead of the iPhone (if their satisfied with their Verizon/Sprint/T-Mobile service)



2) some people are waiting for the iPad



3) some people are waiting for the iPhone 4G

4) others are buying Android based handsets.



Yay for choice!

 

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4) others are buying Android based handsets.

5) Others are not buying anything, because they have no need for a touch-screen device. Or they dislike touchscreen.

 

[ChazUK]

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4) others are buying Android based handsets.

5) Others are not buying anything, because they have no need for a touch-screen device. Or they dislike touchscreen.

Undoubtedly true but where does category 5 fit in with Dave's "OMG, they don't have an iPhone but must have an iPod touch or want an iPad " category?

As they hate touchscreens its even more marketshare iPhone OS based devices will never win!

 

[maflynn]

I was saying since Jan 2010(which is the latest info from the graph) Palm has really stepped up its game, and that this graph is painting a short term picture that is better for Google then reality is

If that's the case why is the January bar for palm less then what it was for october. Their subscriptions are decreasing not increasing as compared to Oct 09. That's even with adding on Verizon to them mix

I thought Palm was "stepping" up their game when they released the Pre - you mean to infer that haven't up until now?

From what I've read, sales at verizon of the palm device are anemic at best. Compared to the iPhone and the various android phones, the palm pre feels cheap. The keyboard is ill-fitting in so far as the keys and layout, the plastic display is quite noticeable in contrast to apple's glass display.

I'm not making this up, its what I've been hearing, reading and seeing. Both the iPhone and many of the Android phones have a more solid feel, and are better designed. Consumers are stupid, they hold up a piece of cheap plastic or one that feels solid, they'll go with the solid feeling one.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

True about palm Januray sells not being the best but Verizon has stated that they (Verizon) really dropped the ball on the pre and the pixel min the lack of training they gave the staff and in adversting them and it started pushing training on the pre and started to put some adds out for it. I want to see fens and March numbers to see how it really doing after giving it some time after that all is at least in place for a little time.

 

[kdarling]

If that's the case why is the January bar for palm less then what it was for october.

BECAUSE IT'S A PERCENTAGE CHART, NOT A SALES CHART.

Their subscriptions are decreasing not increasing as compared to Oct 09.

You are TOTALLY misreading what a chart like this tells.

Palm subscriptions could have (and no doubt did) add many new users, but if the total smartphone market grew even more, their bar could get smaller. Same goes for Apple... their sales grew a lot by actual count, but just not as quickly as overall smartphone sales.

 

[maflynn]

BECAUSE IT'S A PERCENTAGE CHART, NOT A SALES CHART.

And Palms percentage is shrinking

 

[bossxii]

While the Android OS on the various hardware clearly will have an impact and since it's the new kid on the block it's market share should continue to explode. I think however Android has attracted many of the... shall we say geeks initially and it will be interesting to see if it appeals to the masses. Clearly phones like the N1 have made headlines for all the wrong reasons. Customer support issues, over priced ETF's, and recently reading more about some OS issues causing it to "freak out" as one of the posts describes.

While Android offers an open platform that comes with it's own issues, from apps not working across all versions or even all hardware due to the varying screen resolutions and hardware spec's. Their are clearly some issues that need to be sorted out and how that is sorted out will be a factor on it's continued growth.

As to the iPhone 4th Gen phone, if any of the rumors of 4.0 having multitasking comes true, lord knows SJ will sell it as the best thing since sliced bread. That could cause a spurt in market-share, but just as big a factor will be the continued expansion into China. Clearly they have the population to make a huge impact on any brands market-share, so if it takes off anything like it has in the US and elsewhere it could make the iPhone percentage take off rather quickly. The best thing about these types of charts is to revisit them in 6 months to a year so i'll have to mark their site and check out the end of the year results for 2010.

 

[kdarling]

I think however Android has attracted many of the... shall we say geeks initially and it will be interesting to see if it appeals to the masses.

I mildy disagree. Perhaps it seems like that from forums.

However, almost all of the Android owners I've met are everyday working women, not geeks. And all Droid owners, too, not even the Eris.

(This could be because I'm in the northeast and a Droid is the primary choice for female Verizon users, since they can't get an iPhone.)