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Iphone 13
  • Qualcomm X60 modems and SDR868 5G RF transceiver
  • Qualcomm and Qorvo envelope trackers
  • Broadcom and Skyworks front-end modules
The chips might have been there, and the satellites might have been there, and the frequencies might have been there.

It doesn`t mean that the combo has been an option until now - with a cellular phone. Another issue would have been contractual/cost for access.

Before Apple could release something like this, it had to be 100% reliable, and now it probably is fine.
 
Does this feature only work in the US? Had a issue where I was able to get a rideshare but going into the mountains but when it was time to leave I had zero signal.. I was able to get to the main road via a bike but the main road was a good 10 min away and even then it was spotty service.
 
Does this feature only work in the US? Had a issue where I was able to get a rideshare but going into the mountains but when it was time to leave I had zero signal.. I was able to get to the main road via a bike but the main road was a good 10 min away and even then it was spotty service.
Here's the full support article for this feature
  • You need an iPhone 14 or later (all models) with:
    • iOS 16.1 or later in the U.S. or Canada
    • iOS 16.2 or later in France, Germany, Ireland, and the U.K.
    • iOS 16.4 or later in Australia, Austria, Belgium, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Portugal, Spain, and Switzerland
    • iOS 17.6 or later in Japan
 
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T-Mobile is working on similar service for all phones (iOS and Android) using SpaceX's Starlink. Except that it will be for regular use, not just for emergencies.

Meanwhile, AT&T, Verizon, Vodaphone, and others are partnering with AST Space Mobile to bring full broadband via satellite to existing, unmodified iPhones and Androids.
Not clear what the advantage of a low bandwidth text message only service would be once these broadband systems are operational. Unless it remains free or at least dramatically cheaper.

 
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I actually think this service will remain free forever as the backlash they would receive would be enormous for the reasons others have mentioned in this thread.

I look at this feature as a part of their long term strategy to keep users in the ecosystem
 
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Meanwhile, AT&T, Verizon, Vodaphone, and others are partnering with AST Space Mobile to bring full broadband via satellite to existing, unmodified iPhones and Androids.
Not clear what the advantage of a low bandwidth text message only service would be once these broadband systems are operational. Unless it remains free or at least dramatically cheaper.

Cost will be the key; although every time I hear AT&T/Verizon inexpensive does not come to mind.

While full broadband would be a valuable addition to areas that don't have good cellular service; what is the value to those who already have good cell service? Is it enough to pay for it?

It's not like speed is the limiting factor for most users, so why pay extra unless it is cheap?

When use my phone as a hotspot it is fast enough; even to stream video. Will satellite have sufficient bandwidth and low latency to be a better option than existing services?

If it was cheap enough and offered worldwide coverage, I could see getting it; but how many cellphone users travel internationally where there existing services don't work; and do so frequently enough to warrant the extra cost?

Even T-Mobile's low speed international data and free texting is good enough for FaceTime and most apps; and it comes with most plans.

I suspect there is a small segment of the cellular customer base where this is a worthwhile feature and costs will be a secondary consideration; especially in the corporate and government markets.

If I were analyzing the markets, the first questions I would ask are:

  1. How often and long are the current user base is out of data connectivity?
  2. Of those, what percentage and how much are they likely to pay to not lose connectivity?

It will be interesting to see how it is priced, performs, and bandwidth/usage limits.

I actually think this service will remain free forever as the backlash they would receive would be enormous for the reasons others have mentioned in this thread.

Which is a classic example of loss aversion. I suspect if you had asked people what they would pay for this it would be at best a nominal amount; but take it away or charge and it is the end of the world.

I look at this feature as a part of their long term strategy to keep users in the ecosystem

I suspect the emergency call feature may be kept free, since it is likely low volume and the providers, i.e. satellite and call center operators, of the service may at some point start getting government subsidies, similar to what 911 gets in the US, to help cover costs.
 
and by the time they release this feature for the rest of us in other countries, say Romania, they ll start charging for it. Super fair.
 
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and by the time they release this feature for the rest of us in other countries, say Romania, they ll start charging for it. Super fair.
There are some issues in countries bordering Russian spheres of interest like Romania, Moldova, Poland and the Nordic countries. The Russian spoofing/jamming of GPS/Satellites can be pretty intense sometimes, and I somehow suspect the Apple functionality MAY have challenges in that respect.
 
Let's be clear, it's free because nobody* would pay for it.

In 2 years I've never used it and never would want to use it.

Only a hypochondriac will sign up for it for the 1 in a billion chance they are going to be hurt enough to need help in a no-network area, but conscious and lucid enough to be able to use a phone, to activate a complex satellite link, to ask for help....

Now, if they had decent Satellite services that fully replaced my mobile network? Gamechanging.

But they never will.

Because even when the service is available the act of trying to clunkily point it at a Satellite to pick up a signal is painful. Ain't nobody going to do that.

* Save the usual 1%.
 
Now, if they had decent Satellite services that fully replaced my mobile network? Gamechanging.

I agree, as much as cellular did to POTS; although I think it would be more a complementary service.

A provider would still use their tower network, and the satellite when you are outside their service area or an area where they have an exchange agreement. They could have it as an add on and charge for it for those that want the capability. If their cost to provide low enough and use patterns do't cause issues, they could also roll it into one all inclusive price.

Personally, I think the Deutsche Telekom / TMobile model is what we should move to - a transnational provider that allows text/data in multiple countries at a fixed price. Satellite service could help drive that.

The US did away with roaming a long time ago, and the EU followed suit, with some minor differences in how it works. The big hurdle, IMHO, to a more global version is regulation and control of access to services by countries.

But they never will.

Never Say Never Again. GPS, for example, works fine without being pointed at a satellite, although it is one way and not really a data transfer mechanism. However, it does indicate the potential is there, it's a matter of what needs to be done to accomplish it for data.

Technology advances, and as it gets better it could very well replace cellular as we know it; or the hurdles and costs may simply be too high for it to be a viable competitor.

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