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I disagree about the iPhone S6+ needing more than 1080p. It's not a deal-breaker, and people would only complain that the battery life has gotten worse!

I wouldn't mind seeing the iPhone 6s getting a 1080p screen though to appease the masses, but I also wouldn't mind it staying the same, since 1080p on a 4.7" screen is a bit overkill.

But both of those go hand in hand. I would love to see a 2K display on the IP7 and get great battery life. I would also say that in today's smartphone world a 2K display is the norm now. I would also like to see Apple optimise their technology so it will still get great battery life like my 6s+ does.

There's an easy way to achieve both: Make the phone thicker. In reality, Apple isn't going to release an 8.x mm iPhone 7, so I think better battery life is a priority.

Why is 2k the norm?

Ask yourself how much PPI you really want your screen to have. Currently, the Plus has 400 ppi, and to me, 350-400 is roughly the magic number beyond which I stop giving a poop about resolution. Not sure about everyone else, but Apple only has 1 phone model with 1080p, and yet the lower res phones still sell. Even the 5S sells well, and the SE will as well. The iPhone 6 and 6S have obviously sold well, and they're closer to 720p phones.
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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Did you miss the part of his post which said Samsung will use foldable OLED (which they have patents for) and fit a 6 inch phone on a form factor of the SE
He was talking about one handed use. A folding phone allows convenience when putting it in your pocket. If it folds out to be a 6 inch phone, then you still have the same problems using it one handed whether it folds or not.
 
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He was talking about one handed use. A folding phone allows convenience when putting it in your pocket. If it folds out to be a 6 inch phone, then you still have the same problems using it one handed whether it folds or not.

I think the rumored foldable display smartphone is spec'd to also has an exterior display for use when the phone is closed., thus giving you the best of both worlds.
 

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I'm of the opinion I can admire a nice screen on a phone, but it's not a deal breaker when buying. Operating system comes as a top priority for me. I don't look at my iPhone 6 and feel sad that there are more vibrant screens on other devices. Plus unless you are holding phones side by side to compare, most people don't even think about it. It would be nice for Apple to bring a screen upgrade for the next phone, but I'm not going to cry into my cornflakes if it's not an oled.

Regardless of the many buzz words used in this thread, 'smashed, obliterates, annihilates, wipes the floor, embarrasses, shames...' Both LCD and oled screens are pretty good on modern smartphones IMO.
You probably haven't seen the recent Samsung OLEDs.If you use it for a week,you will start to find the iPhone screen dull and boring.We are not exaggerating when we say it's got the best display around.Even Displaymate says so
 

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You probably haven't seen the recent Samsung OLEDs.If you use it for a week,you will start to find the iPhone screen dull and boring.We are not exaggerating when we say it's got the best display around.

Even Displaymate says so

But only when set to RGB basic mode and then you'll find the colours are nearly identical to the iPhone 6S+ screen...
 

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There's an easy way to achieve both: Make the phone thicker. In reality, Apple isn't going to release an 8.x mm iPhone 7, so I think better battery life is a priority.

Why is 2k the norm?

Ask yourself how much PPI you really want your screen to have. Currently, the Plus has 400 ppi, and to me, 350-400 is roughly the magic number beyond which I stop giving a poop about resolution. Not sure about everyone else, but Apple only has 1 phone model with 1080p, and yet the lower res phones still sell. Even the 5S sells well, and the SE will as well. The iPhone 6 and 6S have obviously sold well, and they're closer to 720p phones.
I have several phones Galaxy s7 edge, Note 5, 6s+, Huawei Mate 8. Out of the 4 phones two have 1080 displays. To me there is a visible difference in display quality and clarity and overall refinement in the 2 phones with 2K displays. All of the independent reviewers all have said as much also. There is a visible difference to the naked eye.
Then i would also say that the iphone models you listed sell well regardless of the lower res displays. That doesn't mean a 2k display will not be a welcomed feature. Heck some said going to the larger displays on the iphone 6 was a mistake too....why move to a larger display when the current gen 5s was selling so well? You can't always use sales as the driver to add new and better technology. Or else a product line can become stale.
Apple has the technological ability to add 2k displays and still get great battery life. I have faith in them! :)
 

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But only when set to RGB basic mode and then you'll find the colours are nearly identical to the iPhone 6S+ screen...
Even in Basic mode Samsung still has the following

Much deeper blacks
A MUCH more sharper display
A more power efficient screen
Higher contrast and brightness
 
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You probably haven't seen the recent Samsung OLEDs.If you use it for a week,you will start to find the iPhone screen dull and boring.We are not exaggerating when we say it's got the best display around.Even Displaymate says so
I 'probably' have seen them and I've previously participated in discussions relating to the current OLED screens.

I don't doubt its (S7) got the best display, I did not dispute this. My opinion was its not a deal breaker for me and that the LCD screens used in iPhones are not the sub par standard yourself and a handful of others are keen to highlight. I don't get bored by screen quality as I spend far too much time using the phone for my needs rather than obsessively comparing it to phones I don't own.
 

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Even in Basic mode Samsung still has the following

Much deeper blacks
A MUCH more sharper display
A more power efficient screen
Higher contrast and brightness
Maybe MRU should start getting experience of using more phones than just an iPhone? At least then he can bow to your vast experience owning and using multiple handsets. Just a thought. ;)
 

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Even in Basic mode Samsung still has the following

Much deeper blacks
A MUCH more sharper display
A more power efficient screen
Higher contrast and brightness
I agree with you and I have quite a few phones and experiences as well to validate your comments.
 
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Radon87000

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I 'probably' have seen them and I've previously participated in discussions relating to the current OLED screens.

I don't doubt its (S7) got the best display, I did not dispute this. My opinion was its not a deal breaker for me and that the LCD screens used in iPhones are not the sub par standard yourself and a handful of others are keen to highlight. I don't get bored by screen quality as I spend far too much time using the phone for my needs rather than obsessively comparing it to phones I don't own.
Now supposing (as rumors suggest) theres 3 iPhone models with the 5.8 inch having an OLED screen and the 5.5 and 4.7 having an LCD screen which one would you get purely considering displays in mind as all 3 run iOS?

Pretty sure LCD will be a deal breaker once Apple comes out with an OLED iPhone
 
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Now supposing (as rumors suggest) theres 3 iPhone models with the 5.8 inch having an OLED screen and the 5.5 and 4.7 having an LCD screen which one would you get purely considering displays in mind as all 3 run iOS?

Pretty sure LCD will be a deal breaker once Apple comes out with an OLED iPhone
I will buy the smallest device if that is 4.7" because size is far more important to me than the type of screen it has. If it comes with an OLED then great, if it doesn't then...

I maintain its not a deal breaker for me personally.
 
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Now supposing (as rumors suggest) theres 3 iPhone models with the 5.8 inch having an OLED screen and the 5.5 and 4.7 having an LCD screen which one would you get purely considering displays in mind as all 3 run iOS?

Pretty sure LCD will be a deal breaker once Apple comes out with an OLED iPhone
It is rather interesting to watch some Apple fans push back on any features the current generation of products do not currently have. Then to watch them fully embrace those features when Apple devices do get them later.
I am an Apple fan and have a house full of Apple products and will continue to buy them.
It is interesting to look back at all the push back against some features and the debate about whether they were needed or not only later to extoll those features.
Like copy and paste or the back button is some apps or widgets or larger displays (larger than the 3.5 or 4 inch).
All of those features turned out well for Apple.
 
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It is rather interesting to watch some Apple fans push back on any features the current generation of products do not currently have. Then to watch them fully embrace those features when Apple devices do get them later.
I am an Apple fan and have a house full of Apple products and will continue to but them.
It is interesting to look back at all the push back against some features and the debate about whether they were needed or not only later to extoll those features.
Like copy and paste or the back button is some apps or widgets or larger displays (larger than the 3.5 or 4 inch).
All of those features turned out well for Apple.
Smaller phone, lcd. Don't even have to ponder that.
 

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If it comes with an OLED then great, if it doesn't then...
For added clarity here that I am not against improved screens on Apple devices despite some of the selective reading and rather devious suggestions I will only applaud features if Apple implement them. I just wish whole posts are read rather than picking part of it out, only to then be stereotyped. Grow up people and debate honestly.
 

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Funny how people focus on screen quality matters on their phone yet I bet their home TVs do not get the same attention.

At the end of the day AMOLED does look more colourful. However non AMOLED screens also look good especially when we only whatsapp and text on our phones. Hope you guys have USD 10k+ TVs in your front room to go with your amoled screen phones.
 

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Funny how people focus on screen quality matters on their phone yet I bet their home TVs do not get the same attention.

At the end of the day AMOLED does look more colourful. However non AMOLED screens also look good especially when we only whatsapp and text on our phones. Hope you guys have USD 10k+ TVs in your front room to go with your amoled screen phones.
The same could be said about people who push back against display enhancements for their phones.
Hope those guys all have 720P Tvs in their house.....to go along with their phones.
I mean why not want better displays? Why not want better colors and vibrancy? The technology exists to have all that and still get great battery life on all phones including iphones and Android phones. It just baffles me why people do not want better displays.
 
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Of course people would like better displays. Better displays are being delivered at every new generation of phone whether LCD or AMOLED. Saying LCD screens are embarrassing next to AMOLED is the farcical point. Same folks probably have an LCD TV (where picture quality would be more important) yet they are more concerned about the screen quality on their phones instead.

I rock a 8 inch tablet as my daily phone and would not use it to watch movies for long periods. People here with their 5 inches seem to only want to watch movies on their phones.

For me AMOLED vs LCD would be the last criteria I would set for my next phone. I know LCDs are just as good.

A non plastic body would be a much more important initial criteria for me.
 
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I will buy the smallest device if that is 4.7" because size is far more important to me than the type of screen it has. If it comes with an OLED then great, if it doesn't then...

I maintain its not a deal breaker for me personally.
The point of this thread is the comparison between e OLED of the S7 and the LCD of the iPhone.In this comparison the S7 comes out at top and you admit it so basically we are arguing over nothing.I never said the iPhone display wasn't nice,just that it's no longer on the level of what competitors have adopted.Even HTC 10 has a 1600P panel and they have the finest LCDs after Apple.I agree with you that the OS is a main reason that overall the iPhone sells as much as it does.They would still earn more than HTC,Sony,Huawei combined even if they stick to 750P for 5 more years.I remember when back in 2010 or so how the Retina display was truly industry leading.No display came close to it.Now it's a great display just not earth shattering as it used to be
 
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For added clarity here that I am not against improved screens on Apple devices despite some of the selective reading and rather devious suggestions I will only applaud features if Apple implement them. I just wish whole posts are read rather than picking part of it out, only to then be stereotyped. Grow up people and debate honestly.

You really ought to call out some of the Apple fans here for this last point. You know who they are.
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The point of this thread is the comparison between e OLED of the S7 and the LCD of the iPhone.In this comparison the S7 comes out at top and you admit it so basically we are arguing over nothing.I never said the iPhone display wasn't nice,just that it's no longer on the level of what competitors have adopted.Even HTC 10 has a 1600P panel and they have the finest LCDs after Apple.I agree with you that the OS is a main reason that overall the iPhone sells as much as it does.They would still earn more than HTC,Sony,Huawei combined even if they stick to 750P for 5 more years.I remember when back in 2010 or so how the Retina display was truly industry leading.No display came close to it.Now it's a great display just not earth shattering as it used to be

The bold is particularly poignant.
 
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You really ought to call out some of the Apple fans here for this last point. You know who they are.
That would make me as bad as those pigeon holing people here including myself with false suggestions that features are only applauded if Apple do it. I gave my opinion on screens and was falsely accused of downplaying it because Apple are not doing it. It was then suggested if Apple released 3 screen sizes with the largest being an OLED, I would automatically change my mind and buy a phablet because it has a better screen. The irony being I did not even purchase the 6 Plus which had a better screen, so that theory is quickly put to bed. I don't like big phones.

I would rather not take sides here and join in with the labelling. My opinion is my opinion and the biggest mistake here is that it is assumed I belong to a group. I'm here discussing with those who are directly quoting and referencing me, not participating in tit for tat.

I'm probably not going to buy the next iPhone anyway as I really can't justify the cost. Spending £1k every two years on a phone is rapidly shifting down my list of priorities. So perhaps i'll be stuck with a sub par LCD that you guys find funny for some time yet. ;)
 

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The bold is particularly poignant.
Although the poster you quoted was not exactly glowing with praise when doing the original comparison. If he thought the iPhone had at least a 'nice' screen, then it's like calling somebody a fatty and then saying they never suggested they were overweight.

If the sole crusade of this thread is to get everybody to agree the S7 has the best screen on the planet, then I will echo what I have said previously and say 'I'm sure it does'. My point was that it's not a deal breaker for me if Apple don't match it by the time I have another iPhone, be that next year or if I buy one in a few more. My iPhone 6 after all has an inferior screen to its big brother the 6 Plus. I have never once been worried by that.
 

MRU

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If the sole crusade of this thread is to get everybody to agree the S7 has the best screen on the planetl.

I thought the sole crusade had been established - to over exaggerate and be as dramatic as possible ... ;)

Yes the S7e has a better screen overall, but to use descriptors as 'embarrassing' and 'night & day' is just over playing it imho as my first post in this thread still stands testament to.

But this is a forum, this is the Internet, this is Apple, this is Samsung ... Combine all those factors and the recipe for drama is complete. Throw in a feather bower and we'd reach drama queen status :)
 
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