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photoj2754

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Oct 10, 2013
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Akron
I'm running 10.11.1 and have iPhoto 9.6.1 as well as Aperture 3.6 and Photos 1.2. All open and work just fine. I really use any of them though, since my go to photo app is Photoshop CS6. But on occasion, I do use them so will keep them around.

Lou
Just to be sure before I do this, you installed the update and your iPhoto 9.6.1 (which I have installed on my 2007 iMac also) and it is still there and working. That's comforting to hear. I also have iDVD 7.1.2 on my Mac. Anyone heard anything about it's compatibility with 10.11.1. Thanks so much.
 

flowrider

macrumors 604
Nov 23, 2012
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Just to be sure before I do this, you installed the update and your iPhoto 9.6.1 (which I have installed on my 2007 iMac also) and it is still there and working. That's comforting to hear. I also have iDVD 7.1.2 on my Mac. Anyone heard anything about it's compatibility with 10.11.1. Thanks so much.

Yes, on my cMP. And yes on 10.11.1. Though I don't use it, I use Toast, I have iDVD 7.1.2 installed and it also works in 10.11.1.

Lou
 

mitstoshi

macrumors regular
Nov 16, 2013
183
7
Getting an iPhoto update notification, but then being prevented from downloading/installing it, has been a very common complaint in Yosemite's App Store customer reviews since "Photos for OS X" was first released.

It May Still Be Possible to Update to the newest Version of iPhoto.
A few iPhoto users have said, and Apple eventually confirmed it in an (intentionally?) obscure recommendation, that the way to update iPhoto to the newest version in 10.10.3 and later is to 1.) delete the iPhoto app; 2.) quit the App Store (or maybe even log out and back in again?); 3.) reopen the App Store and go to the Purchases tab. With the old version of iPhoto now missing from your hard drive, the fully updated version will successfully download/install. I don't know if the rules have changed or not at this point in time, but, as I say, it has worked for a number of people in recent months. You certainly have nothing to lose by trying, although I would make sure I have a backup copy somewhere, just in case.
My iMac is still on Yosemite 10.10.5. Does your procedure above work on my iMac?
 

MJWMac1988

macrumors regular
Aug 25, 2015
182
124
Western South Dakota
My iMac is still on Yosemite 10.10.5. Does your procedure above work on my iMac?

It doesn't matter which type of Mac you have. It should work, if Apple hasn't permanently changed anything yet (they removed it for a few days, but it is back). I haven't done this procedure myself. I just read the comments of a number of people who successfully installed the newest version in the past few months. Here are three sources of information. Good luck!

iPhoto not opening after downloading OS X Yosemite (Sept. 30, 2015).

How To Install iPhoto in Yosemite or El Capitan (OS X 10.10 & 10.11)

Fixing iPhoto & Aperture in Yosemite 10.10.3
 

GatorGhost

macrumors regular
Jun 30, 2014
113
19
Okay, here is the fix (from Apple online chat)! If you aren't using iPhoto, then delete it (I don't even think you can since the new Photos app is out, right?). Open finder. Go under Applications. Find iPhoto (mine was grayed out with a white cancel sign over it [a circle with a diagonal line through it]) and drag and drop the icon into your Trash can. Then empty your trash can. Close the App Store app if it's open, then reopen it and the alert should be gone. :)

I have no reference to iphotos in my applications or launchpad? I just installed the 2nd 10.11 public beta and it is still the same
 

photoj2754

macrumors 6502
Oct 10, 2013
430
125
Akron
Yes, on my cMP. And yes on 10.11.1. Though I don't use it, I use Toast, I have iDVD 7.1.2 installed and it also works in 10.11.1.

Lou
thanks for the info and the quick reply. Feel like I dodged a bullet. I'm just trying to hold onto this machine until the new iMacs come out to upgrade and pass this one on to a family member.
 

mitstoshi

macrumors regular
Nov 16, 2013
183
7
It doesn't matter which type of Mac you have. It should work, if Apple hasn't permanently changed anything yet (they removed it for a few days, but it is back). I haven't done this procedure myself. I just read the comments of a number of people who successfully installed the newest version in the past few months. Here are three sources of information. Good luck!

iPhoto not opening after downloading OS X Yosemite (Sept. 30, 2015).

How To Install iPhoto in Yosemite or El Capitan (OS X 10.10 & 10.11)

Fixing iPhoto & Aperture in Yosemite 10.10.3
Thanks it works. Now I got my iPhoto back, three questions:
(1) Do I empty the trashed iPhoto now?
(2) How to migrate to iPhoto from Photo? ( I have added photos to Photo after iPhoto was migrated to Photo) and
(3) How about my iPad Air on iOS 8.4.1, iPhoto was migrated to Photo, any way can iPhoto be reused?
 

MJWMac1988

macrumors regular
Aug 25, 2015
182
124
Western South Dakota
Thanks it works. Now I got my iPhoto back

That's great to hear!

(1) Do I empty the trashed iPhoto now?

Yes, but, first, make ABSOLUTELY, 100% sure that a new copy of iPhoto really is in your Applications folder. I'm sure it's there; otherwise, you wouldn't have said it works now; but I don't like to task risks with other people's computers.

(2) How to migrate to iPhoto from Photo? ( I have added photos to Photo after iPhoto was migrated to Photo)

Did you delete your iPhoto Library after you "upgraded" to Photos? If you didn't delete it, quit iPhoto (if it is open), hold down the Option key on the keyboard and click on the iPhoto icon in the dock. A window will open asking you to either create a new library or choose an already existing library. Click "Choose Library…" and search for your original iPhoto Library. If you deleted your iPhoto Library after "upgrading" to Photos, then you will have to rely on a backed-up copy if you have one.

As for all of the photos you added directly to Photos for OS X after "upgrading," you will just have to open Photos for OS X and export them, then import them into iPhoto. All EXIF data will be retained, and, depending on Photos for OS X's capabilities, the titles and keywords of all of your photos (if you added any) may also be retained. If not, you will have some work to do, but it will be worth it, IMO.

(3) How about my iPad Air on iOS 8.4.1, iPhoto was migrated to Photo, any way can iPhoto be reused?

Sorry, I don't know anything about this. I don't own an iOS device.
 

CremoCremo

macrumors newbie
Sep 22, 2015
20
3
Okay, here is the fix (from Apple online chat)! If you aren't using iPhoto, then delete it (I don't even think you can since the new Photos app is out, right?). Open finder. Go under Applications. Find iPhoto (mine was grayed out with a white cancel sign over it [a circle with a diagonal line through it]) and drag and drop the icon into your Trash can. Then empty your trash can. Close the App Store app if it's open, then reopen it and the alert should be gone. :)

When you say "Apple online chat", you mean official support? I was on the Apple forums yesterday and some of the members stated to not delete iPhoto because Photos and iPhoto sharing libraries, or something like that. Sorry, I can't find the thread anymore. Is there any truth to this?
 

myrtlebee

macrumors 68030
Jul 9, 2011
2,677
2,242
Maryland
When you say "Apple online chat", you mean official support? I was on the Apple forums yesterday and some of the members stated to not delete iPhoto because Photos and iPhoto sharing libraries, or something like that. Sorry, I can't find the thread anymore. Is there any truth to this?
Oh, I have no idea. I certainly hope not as the Apple rep never mentioned that to me! And yes, I mean the chat you can access through the support tab on the website once navigating to your issue.
 

CremoCremo

macrumors newbie
Sep 22, 2015
20
3
Oh, I have no idea. I certainly hope not as the Apple rep never mentioned that to me! And yes, I mean the chat you can access through the support tab on the website once navigating to your issue.

Thank you.

Did you delete your iPhoto Library after you "upgraded" to Photos? If you didn't delete it, quit iPhoto (if it is open), hold down the Option key on the keyboard and click on the iPhoto icon in the dock. A window will open asking you to either create a new library or choose an already existing library. Click "Choose Library…" and search for your original iPhoto Library. If you deleted your iPhoto Library after "upgrading" to Photos, then you will have to rely on a backed-up copy if you have one.

You seem to imply in your response that there is an iPhoto Library and a Photos Library. Is that correct? If I have been using Photos exclusively since the "upgrade" from iPhoto, is it safe to delete iPhoto and it's associated Library? As you can see from my earlier post above, I may have been led to believe that iPhoto and Photos shared the Library and it was not safe to delete iPhoto or it's Library.
 

MJWMac1988

macrumors regular
Aug 25, 2015
182
124
Western South Dakota
You seem to imply in your response that there is an iPhoto Library and a Photos Library. Is that correct? If I have been using Photos exclusively since the "upgrade" from iPhoto, is it safe to delete iPhoto and it's associated Library? As you can see from my earlier post above, I may have been led to believe that iPhoto and Photos shared the Library and it was not safe to delete iPhoto or it's Library.

Visually, there are supposed to be two separate libraries on your hard drive, one for iPhoto and one for Photos. Physically or literally, it is a bit more confusing (at least for me). Based on everything that I have read since last spring (which is quite a bit), the Photos Library isn't a literal duplicate of the iPhoto Library. Instead, it behaves something like an alias of the iPhoto Library, but it contains "hard links," not just pseudo aliases (if I am remembering correctly). It may be sort of like the concept behind Time Machine's file structure, where there are many virtual copies of the same files, all of which can stand on their own if necessary. Many people have said they have safely thrown away their iPhoto Library once they created their Photos Library. They may be right about it being safe, but I'm not very trusting (of my own one-in-a-million bad luck, mostly). Having two libraries of this type is not supposed to take up double the space on your hard drive, but some are convinced that having two of them does take up extra space; therefore, they have thrown away whichever library they don't intend to use anymore. Most didn't encounter problems, but some may have, if I remember correctly.

If one ever feels a need to revert to iPhoto, it would be very unfortunate if their original iPhoto Library no longer exists.

You could try this quick experiment:

1.) Create a temporary "iPhoto Library Test" and put 100 or 200 photos in it (duplicates of the originals, of course).

2.) Do two or three minor edits and create an album or two, just to say you did some customization of the library (probably not necessary, but...).

3.) Quit iPhoto.

4.) Open Photos with the option key held down on the keyboard and open "iPhoto Library Test."

5.) Do two or three minor edits in Photos.

6.) Quit Photos.

7.) Throw away the original "iPhoto Library Test" and empty the trash.

8.) Reopen Photos and see if "Photos Library Test" and all the photos in it are still really "there." If they are, then you have your answer.
 

mitstoshi

macrumors regular
Nov 16, 2013
183
7
Thank you.



You seem to imply in your response that there is an iPhoto Library and a Photos Library. Is that correct? If I have been using Photos exclusively since the "upgrade" from iPhoto, is it safe to delete iPhoto and it's associated Library? As you can see from my earlier post above, I may have been led to believe that iPhoto and Photos shared the Library and it was not safe to delete iPhoto or it's Library.
Yes, iPhoto and Photo have their own libraries.
 

CremoCremo

macrumors newbie
Sep 22, 2015
20
3
Visually, there are supposed to be two separate libraries on your hard drive, one for iPhoto and one for Photos. Physically or literally, it is a bit more confusing (at least for me). Based on everything that I have read since last spring (which is quite a bit), the Photos Library isn't a literal duplicate of the iPhoto Library. Instead, it behaves something like an alias of the iPhoto Library, but it contains "hard links," not just pseudo aliases (if I am remembering correctly). It may be sort of like the concept behind Time Machine's file structure, where there are many virtual copies of the same files, all of which can stand on their own if necessary. Many people have said they have safely thrown away their iPhoto Library once they created their Photos Library. They may be right about it being safe, but I'm not very trusting (of my own one-in-a-million bad luck, mostly). Having two libraries of this type is not supposed to take up double the space on your hard drive, but some are convinced that having two of them does take up extra space; therefore, they have thrown away whichever library they don't intend to use anymore. Most didn't encounter problems, but some may have, if I remember correctly.

Thank you very much. I think you confirmed what I read on another forum. I agree about the libraries. What didn't make sense on the other forum was some members said to not delete the iPhoto app itself. I don't think that is correct.
 

simon lefisch

macrumors 65816
Sep 29, 2014
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253
When you say "Apple online chat", you mean official support? I was on the Apple forums yesterday and some of the members stated to not delete iPhoto because Photos and iPhoto sharing libraries, or something like that. Sorry, I can't find the thread anymore. Is there any truth to this?
Photos sharing the iPhoto library is dependent on how you "migrated" to Photos. When I did it, I selected the iPhoto library and it imported all my photos to the Photos library (I know it made copies as I checked and all originals were there after I removed my iPhoto library file to an external HD and disconnected it).
 

Brendao

macrumors newbie
May 24, 2016
1
0
Getting an iPhoto update notification, but then being prevented from downloading/installing it, has been a very common complaint in Yosemite's App Store customer reviews since "Photos for OS X" was first released.

It May Still Be Possible to Update to the newest Version of iPhoto.
A few iPhoto users have said, and Apple eventually confirmed it in an (intentionally?) obscure recommendation, that the way to update iPhoto to the newest version in 10.10.3 and later is to 1.) delete the iPhoto app; 2.) quit the App Store (or maybe even log out and back in again?); 3.) reopen the App Store and go to the Purchases tab. With the old version of iPhoto now missing from your hard drive, the fully updated version will successfully download/install. I don't know if the rules have changed or not at this point in time, but, as I say, it has worked for a number of people in recent months. You certainly have nothing to lose by trying, although I would make sure I have a backup copy somewhere, just in case.
[doublepost=1464140273][/doublepost]I just did what you recommended. Got to update IPhoto in my updates. She. I click to update the error message says "Th eupdate is not available for this AppleID either because it was bought by a different user or the item was refunded or cancelled. Help please.
 
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