iPhoto is dead.

[Razeus]

I'm not sure why Aperture would be dead - both Aperture and iPhoto currently integrate with iCloud, no reason to think the dualism of local/cloud storage couldn't continue. My theory is that iPhoto users will be migrated to Aperture. There are other possibilities.

But if we were to extend the iPhoto/Aperture is dead logic to the rest of Apple's software offerings... who really needs Pages, isn't TextEdit enough? Who needs FCP, isn't iMovie enough? Would closed-systems Apple ditch its "serious" apps and let platform-independent Microsoft, Adobe, and Google pick up the crumbs? Hardly.

Every time something happens on the consumer side (is it "dumbing-down," or "user friendliness?"), pros and serious amateurs consider it a sign that Apple is abandoning the pros. For the most part, that hasn't been the way it's worked. The last "abandonment" I can recall is pro server hardware, and that was quite a few years ago. We still have the traditional line-up of pro applications, we have a brand-new Mac Pro design, MacBook Pro...

Apple has more than one constituency, and it's true that the numbers skew heavily in favor of the masses. Sure, if something had to go, it'd be the smaller niches. The question is whether anything has to go, especially when Apple is as profitable as it is. As long as there's a reasonable justification (trickle-down of high-end R&D, maintaining a pool of "key influencers," etc.), it fits into the profitability equation.

There are few better endorsements than, "This is what the pros use." You can see it in all of Apple's ads - pros doing really cool things alongside amateurs doing stuff that's nearly as cool. Pro usage is "aspirational" for the masses. Canon and Nikon have been using this approach for decades. Still, both Canon and Nikon make their real money on p&s and "serious amateur" gear. Do we worry that the latest Canon p&s is a harbinger of doom?

All Apple is doing is adding a new bottom rung to its ladder. They have no need to remove the top rung of the ladder to make that happen.

The difference is.....we've actually seen new updates in terms of usability and design changes to the iWork suite. We haven't seen squat to iPhoto/Aperture aside from iCloud integration.

Also, read some of the latest reports on Nikon/Canon. Trust me, their not making "real money" in p&s. They are boarding on financial trouble, Nikon more than Canon.

 

[Razeus]

http://9to5mac.com/2014/06/03/ios-8-lock-screen-app-shortcuts-iphoto-changes-app-store-reviews/

Next on the list of notable changes in the iOS 8 beta preview is the lack of support for Apple’s iPhoto image editing software. While some but not all of its featured are now found in the stock Photos app, it seems Apple has intentionally disabled support for iPhoto for iOS at least during the initial iOS 8 beta period.

When prompted to launch, the system displays the dialog box shown above stating that editing and sorting has moved to the Photos app. The Photos app does not, however, match feature parity with iPhoto for iOS so it would be surprising to see it not regain support for iOS 8 before lunch albeit possible with upcoming changes to how photos are managed as we’ve already covered.

While it doesn’t say much about the fate of iPhoto for iOS going forward, Apple does list the lack of support on iOS 8 beta as a known issue: “iPhoto for iOS will not launch on iOS 8 Beta. Launching Photos.app will migrate your iPhoto edits to the iOS 8 Photo Library. Make sure your iPhoto for iOS data is included in your device backup.”

...so it begins.

 

[InfiniteLoopy]

I'm not sure why Aperture would be dead - both Aperture and iPhoto currently integrate with iCloud, no reason to think the dualism of local/cloud storage couldn't continue. My theory is that iPhoto users will be migrated to Aperture. There are other possibilities.

But if we were to extend the iPhoto/Aperture is dead logic to the rest of Apple's software offerings... who really needs Pages, isn't TextEdit enough? Who needs FCP, isn't iMovie enough? Would closed-systems Apple ditch its "serious" apps and let platform-independent Microsoft, Adobe, and Google pick up the crumbs? Hardly.

Every time something happens on the consumer side (is it "dumbing-down," or "user friendliness?"), pros and serious amateurs consider it a sign that Apple is abandoning the pros. For the most part, that hasn't been the way it's worked. The last "abandonment" I can recall is pro server hardware, and that was quite a few years ago. We still have the traditional line-up of pro applications, we have a brand-new Mac Pro design, MacBook Pro...

Apple has more than one constituency, and it's true that the numbers skew heavily in favor of the masses. Sure, if something had to go, it'd be the smaller niches. The question is whether anything has to go, especially when Apple is as profitable as it is. As long as there's a reasonable justification (trickle-down of high-end R&D, maintaining a pool of "key influencers," etc.), it fits into the profitability equation.

There are few better endorsements than, "This is what the pros use." You can see it in all of Apple's ads - pros doing really cool things alongside amateurs doing stuff that's nearly as cool. Pro usage is "aspirational" for the masses. Canon and Nikon have been using this approach for decades. Still, both Canon and Nikon make their real money on p&s and "serious amateur" gear. Do we worry that the latest Canon p&s is a harbinger of doom?

All Apple is doing is adding a new bottom rung to its ladder. They have no need to remove the top rung of the ladder to make that happen.

I don't think you understand what I meant. I'm talking about the applications iPhoto and Aperture, not the concept of photography at Apple. They seem to be stopping these applications and just concentrating on the new Photos app.

 

[polenzo]

Does anyone think that a combination of local storage on the mac and certain photo's / albums kept in the cloud will be an option - I do all my editing on the mac and can't remember the last edit done on iOS - with plenty of (already paid for) storage available on my hard drive keeping all my photo's in the cloud (at a cost) is not an option I find that compelling.....

 

[MCAsan]

I wonder what happens to Aperture if the Yosemite beta is installed?

 

[Razeus]

I wonder what happens to Aperture if the Yosemite beta is installed?

I'm sure it'll still works. My post above was relating to the iOS version of iPhoto. It seems to be going away in favor of the Photos app.

 

[MCAsan]

So if we load the Yosemite beta, iPhoto still works on Mac?

 

[notrack]

My guess is that iPhoto moves in to the system as Photos app. It will lose some features for the sake of "simplicity". Advanced users will have to move up to Aperture. To incorporate them, Aperture will have to get simpler.

I wonder why it won't come until 2015...

 

[MCAsan]

My guess is that iPhoto moves in to the system as Photos app. It will lose some features for the sake of "simplicity". Advanced users will have to move up to Aperture. To incorporate them, Aperture will have to get simpler.

I wonder why it won't come until 2015...

To give the plugin makes like Topaz Labs, Nik, OnOneSoftware, DXO Labs and others time to rethink, recode, and test their plugins. Those plugins likely need to be in beta in Q4 for a Q1 2015 launch. That is not far award for a developer. It is too far aware for a consumer.