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Dude you don't need internet/edge/or 3g for GPS. Do you have a GPS in the car? Is it hooked up to the internet ? NO! They dont need to be.

Real GPS needs no internet or phone connection of any kind. The maps are preloaded onto the device (or can be downloaded, so they're always there), and need contact only with the GPS satellites, not anything else. Only more recently has there been this sort of "half-GPS" which consists of a combination of fewer GPS satellites and cell phone towers.

How about you both learn to read? I never said GPS required data. I said it would be pointless at this current stage because there isn't an app with pre-loaded maps available and it hasn't been clarified whether Apple will allow TomTom or Telenav to release their apps due to the fine print in the SDK. Data is required for Google maps. :rolleyes:
 
Wow, this is getting interesting now! Remember the iPod nano cases that turned out to be real...
 
As I said earlier- the new Nano could have a whole individual dock, like the Shuffle does.

And for all those saying a new Nano would scupper a whole generation of 3rd party products: so did the last Nano.

I'm not saying it's gospel, but it's also a possibility that by introducing a separate dock for the Nano Apple will put it into bed with the Shuffle.

But then, what do I know? Whayya gunna do?*


*Sorry for the last sentence- I've been re-watching The Sopranos all week :D
 
GPS on an iPod Touch would be almost pointless at it's current stage considering you need internet/edge/3g coming in to download the Google maps data.

Not just that, without the internet it will take ages to get a fix. Downloading the almanac data at 50 bps from the satellite takes forever.

It could do it in the background, but it might kill battery life.
 
Is there anything that says Apple has to use Google maps for GPS? Why can't they use some other company? We just want some fairly simple (no satellite view maps needed) GPS that gets the job done. Something like what you might find on a Garmin handheld device. And there's plenty of room to preload the maps on the Touch.
 
I said it would be pointless at this current stage because there isn't an app with pre-loaded maps available
You're basing your argument against something that doesn't exist yet (a GPS enabled iPod touch) on something that doesn't exist yet (downloadable maps for it)? Why wouldn't we see maps available alongside a new GPS touch on the App store? Apple gets a cut of map revenue, Tom Tom etc makes money selling maps. Everyone wins.

retroneo said:
Not just that, without the internet it will take ages to get a fix. Downloading the almanac data at 50 bps from the satellite takes forever.
As has been pointed out it doesn't take ages to get a fix with a conventional GPS. An in car one does just fine without an internet connection. Why wouldn't you be able to upload your maps via sync with iTunes (like any other media) before you left home?

Kilamite said:
And make all current iPod products obsolete? Don't think so.
Over all the years of iPods the last thing apple has been interested in is providing backwards capatability for third party devices. Take FM transmitters for example? Ever had one that works with a new iteration of iPods? I think I've got four different ones collecting dust in my drawers.


mr.light said:
11800506 said:
These are fakes. There is no way Apple would make an iPod without the dock connector.
I have to agree with you on that one.
Then you'd both be wrong because one ships without it already.
 
why would you want to have GPS on your ipod?
seriously, think about it.

you would need a wifi connection at all times unless you could fit all the data on your touch, so you would basically need a 32gb touch.

it seems pointless to me, or am i missing something?(Please, enlighten me.)
 
why would you want to have GPS on your ipod?
seriously, think about it.

you would need a wifi connection at all times unless you could fit all the data on your touch, so you would basically need a 32gb touch.

it seems pointless to me, or am i missing something?(Please, enlighten me.)

At the most, preloaded maps would take 1 GB of storage (depending on the quality, of course). And having preloaded GPS maps would be SO worth it...
 
At the most, preloaded maps would take 1 GB of storage (depending on the quality, of course). And having preloaded GPS maps would be SO worth it...

Really? i thought it would take up WAY more than that. well im all aboard for preloaded maps then :D
 
You're basing your argument against something that doesn't exist yet (a GPS enabled iPod touch) on something that doesn't exist yet (downloadable maps for it)? Why wouldn't we see maps available alongside a new GPS touch on the App store? Apple gets a cut of map revenue, Tom Tom etc makes money selling maps. Everyone wins.


As has been pointed out it doesn't take ages to get a fix with a conventional GPS. An in car one does just fine without an internet connection. Why wouldn't you be able to upload your maps via sync with iTunes (like any other media) before you left home?


Over all the years of iPods the last thing apple has been interested in is providing backwards capatability for third party devices. Take FM transmitters for example? Ever had one that works with a new iteration of iPods? I think I've got four different ones collecting dust in my drawers.



Then you'd both be wrong because one ships without it already.

Maybe if you read what they wrote you would know they said dock connecter and not dock. All iPods and iPhones except the shuffle have them and have for some time.
 
The case looks like it would fit something like THIS

You couldn't be more right - it even has the little spot for the hook on the bottom of the knockoff in the case (in between the mini-USB and headphones). I think we can safely say that this case is completely fake.

-jb
 
What's up with that circle on top of the screen?

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why would you want to have GPS on your ipod?
seriously, think about it.

you would need a wifi connection at all times unless you could fit all the data on your touch, so you would basically need a 32gb touch.

it seems pointless to me, or am i missing something?(Please, enlighten me.)

Have you ever seen a NORMAL GPS before? You know... one that actually connects to satellites and finds your EXACT location? (Not aGPS like the iPhone)

Holy people... You don't need wifi/3G/edge for a GPS to work...
 
These cases don't look like they'd fit Kevin Rose's rumour. They're similar, but the cases would cover part of Kevin's screen. So something's wrong.

I'm leaning towards this being an iPod clone attempt.

ps. GPS in the iPod Touch would be good but who knows what's coming. I think it has to undergo a substantial change so I'm very interested in seeing wehre it goes. GPS? Bluetooth (to connect to internet via my phone?)? Bigger? Smaller
 
What's up with that circle on top of the screen

That is the ambient light sensor, I believe. If you look at the current touch at the right angle, you can see it.

If that touch rendering turns out to be real, I'll be disappointed. No speakers (not really surprising), no volume controls!?

Edit: Ah, I misunderstood. That is just a rendering of the original touch.

I can't believe anyone cares about the nano anymore. I could care less.

It's a nice break from the numerous iPhone news stories.
 
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