iPod touch iPod Touch: We want features

[1458279]

The M8 motion coprocessor for one - the iPad Mini 4 would be too big to lug around. I've yet to find a decent pedometer app on android (or at least one as accurate as that of the iPt).

Besides, I like having multiple devices; likewise I have many watches - they all tell the time but each is different.

It seems pretty pricy for a limited use device. I have an old iPod Video 30g and use it as a music player for my motorcycle and cars with an amp. It works great for that.

But the iPT just seemed like so many other devices can do the same thing that it's become the Kodak point-n-shoot camera.

Point-n-shoot cameras were all the rage at one time, now, you hardly see them anymore. Innovation brings functions together, I understand the iPhone is the most popular camera in the world.

Much like the flashlight apps at the start of the smart phone craze, now they are relics of the past and their functionality is built in.

 

[musicmachine]

256gb

 

[Ffosse]

It seems pretty pricy for a limited use device. I have an old iPod Video 30g and use it as a music player for my motorcycle and cars with an amp. It works great for that.

But the iPT just seemed like so many other devices can do the same thing that it's become the Kodak point-n-shoot camera.

Point-n-shoot cameras were all the rage at one time, now, you hardly see them anymore. Innovation brings functions together, I understand the iPhone is the most popular camera in the world.

Much like the flashlight apps at the start of the smart phone craze, now they are relics of the past and their functionality is built in.

I can afford the latest devices so why not have them? Price doesn't come into it.

 

[1458279]

I can afford the latest devices so why not have them? Price doesn't come into it.

That's not a problem if you find enough value in it.
I'd rather send Apple a clear message that they shouldn't short the features without shorting the price. I'd rather see all the modern goodies in it and a fair price.

IMO, Apple knows that WiFi phones have a big advantage. Several companies offer hybrid phones that can cost as low as $10/Month. They shift from one WiFi to another and go to data plan as needed.

I'm sure people would love to have an iPT that was the same as an iPhone without the phone for $200 and be able to make calls as needed. You can do that now with an iPT, it would be nice to have the other features of the iPhone 6.

 

[fpnc]

The iPod touch is uncompetitive and over priced compared to what? As is, it basically forced every other manufacturer out of the market (anyone remember the Microsoft Zune?). I can't really see that it has any competitors other than a subsidized phone.

In fact, PC Magazine said in July 2015 that, "The Apple iPod touch is the best media player there is if you don't want a cellular connection."

That was their "Bottom Line" comment in a review of media players available at that time.

Okay, so it would always be nice to have more features. But, arguably as it now stands it's the best device of its type that you can find in the U.S. market.

Better battery life -- aways good.
Better camera -- aways good.
Better performance -- aways good as long as it doesn't affect cost or battery life.
Bigger/better display -- probably not needed given it market.
GPS -- never going to happen.
Touch ID -- would be nice.

 

[1458279]

The iPod touch is uncompetitive and over priced compared to what? As is, it basically forced every other manufacturer out of the market (anyone remember the Microsoft Zune?). I can't really see that it has any competitors other than a subsidized phone.

In fact, PC Magazine said in July 2015 that, "The Apple iPod touch is the best media player there is if you don't want a cellular connection."

That was their "Bottom Line" comment in a review of media players available at that time.

Okay, so it would always be nice to have more features. But, arguably as it now stands it's the best device of its type that you can find in the U.S. market.

Better battery life -- aways good.
Better camera -- aways good.
Better performance -- aways good as long as it doesn't affect cost or battery life.
Bigger/better display -- probably not needed given it market.
GPS -- never going to happen.
Touch ID -- would be nice.

Saying that it owns the market for people that don't want a device with a phone is true. But there are phones that do everything the iPT does and you don't have to use the phone. So why would anyone say "I'm going to pay more to not have the phone part". Anything the iPT can do a phone can do.

I just don't see someone saying "I'll pay more to not have a phone". The off-contract phones are getting cheap and it doesn't look like Apple wants to compete with those.

 

[Ffosse]

Saying that it owns the market for people that don't want a device with a phone is true. But there are phones that do everything the iPT does and you don't have to use the phone. So why would anyone say "I'm going to pay more to not have the phone part". Anything the iPT can do a phone can do.

I just don't see someone saying "I'll pay more to not have a phone". The off-contract phones are getting cheap and it doesn't look like Apple wants to compete with those.

I've yet to see a phone as small and slim as the iPt6. Most cheap androids are just plastic rubbish. But, again, why not have both a decent phone and an iPt6? Do you wear only one pair of trousers? Also, should one break then I'm not too bothered. I can read books on the Meizu as easily as the iPad

Many different use cases. I use all 3 of these devices daily, plus my iPad Mini 4. Only the Sony comes close to Apple in design:

 

[sorcery]

Saying that it owns the market for people that don't want a device with a phone is true. But there are phones that do everything the iPT does and you don't have to use the phone. So why would anyone say "I'm going to pay more to not have the phone part". Anything the iPT can do a phone can do.

I just don't see someone saying "I'll pay more to not have a phone". The off-contract phones are getting cheap and it doesn't look like Apple wants to compete with those.

Clandestine workers, criminals, adulterers and the paranoid, come to mind. It cannot be triangulated by cellphone towers or tracked by GPS. And iMessage is more secure than SMS.
Plus, of course, it is more beautiful than most devices.

 

[1458279]

Clandestine workers, criminals, adulterers and the paranoid, come to mind. It cannot be triangulated by cellphone towers or tracked by GPS. And iMessage is more secure than SMS.
Plus, of course, it is more beautiful than most devices.

Didn't think about the tracking, that is a plus.

 

[GCHASE1995]

So maybe I'm not going crazy then. I have a pretty much brand new 6th Generation. The most "Usage" I got out of it was about 24 hours with about a week of standby. All I did was listen to music on it with the screen off, no wifi, no apps running, just music. Has anyone ever gotten anywhere near the "up to 40 hour" music playback figure. I should be averaging 30 hours per charge, but nowhere near that.

My iPod touch 5 got 2 weeks

 

[Fred23]

Water resistance & better battery life.

 

[Channan]

I eventually bought a used iPhone with no phone provider for that reason. (Apple Watch support was the "feature" I wanted.)

Comparing the prices, it really looks like the iPod touch's relative featurelessness is a deliberate decision.

With the iPhone SE as cheap as it is, the ability to do payments on it instead of a full one-time payment, and free service options, there's not much of a reason to buy an iPod touch anymore.

 

[Ffosse]

With the iPhone SE as cheap as it is, the ability to do payments on it instead of a full one-time payment, and free service options, there's not much of a reason to buy an iPod touch anymore.

Why not, if you don't want the SE, already own a phone (perhaps 2 or 3), and like the looks, design, size and price of the iPod?

Who would do payments on an SE? They're so cheap to buy outright.

 

[Channan]

Why not, if you don't want the SE, already own a phone (perhaps 2 or 3), and like the looks, design size and price of the iPod?

Who would do payments on an SE? They're so cheap to buy outright.

An iPod touch is an iPhone without cellular data or GPS, so already owning a phone isn't a reason to get an iPod touch over an iPhone. You can have an iPhone and use it just like an iPod touch.

The iPhone SE is cheap for an iPhone, but it's still not really cheap. Even if you can manage with 16GB, you're still going to spend over $400 after tax. A lot of people might have a hard time dropping $400 up front, but can easily manage to pay $16.66/month. I'm doing monthly payments on my iPhone SE because I got an extra $10 for trading in my iPhone 5s for doing so, and it's interest-free, so why not?

If you don't qualify for monthly payments and can't spend the extra $200 for an SE, you need 128GB of storage, or really just like the iPod touch's design/dislike the iPhone SE, then the iPod touch makes sense for you. But if you can manage the extra money for an iPhone SE, you'll get much better battery life, a much better camera, faster processor, twice as much RAM, GPS, an earpiece for making non-speaker phone calls without headphones, Touch ID, and a cellular radio if you ever did decide to use it as a phone. And why wouldn't you if you live in the US, considering there are options to get free service?

 

[Mac 128]

In a year the SE will likely cost $299 as it drops following the 6s. That's when they'll likely discontinue the iPod Touch altogether.

In 3 years the SE could sell for as little as $199. It would be interesting to see if in doing so Apple offers a 128gb option, while dropping the 16gb option.

the iPod Touch is basically on life support Until the SE drops low enough. I expect a new premium 4" iPhone 7 to replace the SE after being depreciated over 3 years withh a bump to the then current specs. So anybody who really cares will be able to upgrade their iPodTouch every 3 years for roughly the same price with the option to use it as a phone for the same price.

 

[Channan]

In a year the SE will likely cost $299 as it drops following the 6s. That's when they'll likely discontinue the iPod Touch altogether.

In 3 years the SE could sell for as little as $199. It would be interesting to see if in doing so Apple offers a 128gb option, while dropping the 16gb option.

the iPod Touch is basically on life support Until the SE drops low enough. I expect a new premium 4" iPhone 7 to replace the SE after being depreciated over 3 years withh a bump to the then current specs. So anybody who really cares will be able to upgrade their iPodTouch every 3 years for roughly the same price with the option to use it as a phone for the same price.

Not sure I see Apple dropping the price of an iPhone to just $200, but I can see them eventually killing off the iPod touch and selling the SE for $300 eventually.

 

[Ffosse]

An iPod touch is an iPhone without cellular data or GPS, so already owning a phone isn't a reason to get an iPod touch over an iPhone. You can have an iPhone and use it just like an iPod touch.

The iPhone SE is cheap for an iPhone, but it's still not really cheap. Even if you can manage with 16GB, you're still going to spend over $400 after tax. A lot of people might have a hard time dropping $400 up front, but can easily manage to pay $16.66/month. I'm doing monthly payments on my iPhone SE because I got an extra $10 for trading in my iPhone 5s for doing so, and it's interest-free, so why not?

If you don't qualify for monthly payments and can't spend the extra $200 for an SE, you need 128GB of storage, or really just like the iPod touch's design/dislike the iPhone SE, then the iPod touch makes sense for you. But if you can manage the extra money for an iPhone SE, you'll get much better battery life, a much better camera, faster processor, twice as much RAM, GPS, an earpiece for making non-speaker phone calls without headphones, Touch ID, and a cellular radio if you ever did decide to use it as a phone. And why wouldn't you if you live in the US, considering there are options to get free service?

But you can own phones, tablets inter alia plus the iPod. Why wouldn't anyone want to? I have multiple phones and devices all of which I bought outright. Sometimes I'll go with the Sony; other times the Meizu or my new Ulefone Power, perhaps my iPad Mini 4. The iPod is the slimmest and lightest of them all - a bonus in my view, I have few apps on there and it's mainly for music. I see no advantage in an SE over an iPt for my usage.

Anyway, I'll typically upgrade phones twice a year - 4" is too small for a phone display; the buttons too small etc. I struggle with 4.6" on the Sony. 5.5" is about right in today's market.

 

[rginder]

I would like 3DTouch, although on my jailbroken 5th get iPod Touch, I have a tweak installed that tracks the changes in diameter of the patch of your finger on the screen, and quite well acts like Force Touch. And, TouchID? As nice as that would be, again, the iPod Touch is meant to be closer to budget. That may increase the price. However, it would be nice! Main things that I want on the iPod Touch is something like GPS (Satellite + Saved maps), and especially, FM Radio! They have it on the other iPods, How about FM Radio? The 2nd generation iPod Touch chipset even has support for FM Radio, but it's not utilized. Also, how about vibration? Or something like it... The main thing that's missing is BATTERY PERCENTAGE. You can enable it, even without a jailbreak, through iBackupBot, but it's not as accurate as the iPhones. They really should bring a better battery monitoring software to the iPod Touch. They can do it, so they should! Now, I see why they removed the iPod Touch loop, because not many people used it. I would have, but my 5th gen came with all it should, but not the loop, since it was used. Oh well. Also, the FaceTime camera should be updated, and antenna bands for increased range, like with the iPhones, wouldn't be a bad idea. But, these are all just luxuries. Oh, almost forgot. I wish they had more colors, such as orange, and even different faceplate colors, instead of just a white area surrounding the display, maybe also a black, or other colored frame around the display. They should also bring back a light sensor.