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Is 10.8 dev prev stable for day-to-day?
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Unless you can devote a dedicated machine for testing, dont risk it unless you know what you are doing. If you want to learn developing, best to start on a stable platform with the latest version of Xcode - better than trying to learn about development and trying to debug a new OS. Its going to take time anyway and you can upgrade later when things smooth out and you can check out the new APIs after they have time to bake.
DPs are about debugging existing software - not really for learning since anything can change.
sensible post.
People are reporting all sorts of things but from what i read, a lot of people comment on how stable it is. Yes, there will be bugs and some unknown things may happen so if you do it, keep a regular time machine running. If stability and no downtime is no 1 importance, don't do it. The post above suggesting to see how it works for you personally really sums it up.
Same.
Its just funny to me how much slower/choppier/crashier it's on my much faster and 5 years newer MBP.
It's ok, I reinstalled Lion on the MBP and just downloaded Safari and Messages beta. Those are the best parts for now anyway.
I'm sure the DP2 will land within a month-month and a half. A summer release means more frequent beta releases.
Personally, I'm using it as my primary OS on my iMac, which is a mid 2009 model and compared to Lion, this is a Godsend. My main issue was always with Lion's animations, they were awful and took away from the fluid operation of OS X, which is one of it's famed attributes in my opinion.
From opening/closing Launchpad, opening/closing folders within Launchpad, going to/from Full Screen mode in apps, and the animation where an app is downloaded from the App Store and sent to Launchpad, every version of Lion has run like a stuttering, inconsistent mess.
Mountain Lion, for DP1, is remarkably better on my iMac than even the latest version of Lion. Fingers crossed the final release is just as good, because Mountain Lion truly has, thus far, given me Snow Leopard quality performance but with the features of Lion.
From opening/closing Launchpad, opening/closing folders within Launchpad, going to/from Full Screen mode in apps, and the animation where an app is downloaded from the App Store and sent to Launchpad, every version of Lion has run like a stuttering, inconsistent mess.
Mountain Lion, for DP1, is remarkably better on my iMac than even the latest version of Lion. Fingers crossed the final release is just as good, because Mountain Lion truly has, thus far, given me Snow Leopard quality performance but with the features of Lion.
Reverting FROM ML to Lion
Anybody done this successfully? I jumped the gun and went full bore for ML, but it's a bit too buggy for daily use for me (I didn't do it on a work computer or anything - not a huge problem).
If I clone the drive and do a clean install of Lion, will I be able to migration assistant from my ML drive? I'm guessing not...
Or is there a way to install Lion on top of ML, keeping apps and user accounts?
Thanks -
Anybody done this successfully? I jumped the gun and went full bore for ML, but it's a bit too buggy for daily use for me (I didn't do it on a work computer or anything - not a huge problem).
If I clone the drive and do a clean install of Lion, will I be able to migration assistant from my ML drive? I'm guessing not...
Or is there a way to install Lion on top of ML, keeping apps and user accounts?
Thanks -
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Would not recommend it. Once you play with the new features for an hour or two you will want to revert to Lion to get application compatibility, unless you will be developing on it.
Would not recommend it. Once you play with the new features for an hour or two you will want to revert to Lion to get application compatibility, unless you will be developing on it.
It has a few bugs, and if you are concerned for your data, are not a pro user/developer, don't have a backup, don't use it. However i'm primarily developping on my macbook air, which is as well my only portable machine. I decided to go ahead and upgrade it to ML and see if it's stable enough for developping, emailing and surfing the internet. Which it is, so i kept it and didn't go back to Lion, it's just easier to have one installation than two.
I've had 4 kernel panics in the past 3 days in addition to crashes from Safari, Mail, Contacts, Disk Utility and Bootcamp Assistant in addition to non-working apps like VMware, Onyx, etc...
I'll be re-installing Lion once I recall how to pop back my optibay.
Even as a developer, DP1 isn't even stable enough to work on. Frequent crashes and incompatibilities means you'll never know it was a result of your code or Apple's.
I'll be re-installing Lion once I recall how to pop back my optibay.
Even as a developer, DP1 isn't even stable enough to work on. Frequent crashes and incompatibilities means you'll never know it was a result of your code or Apple's.
Running ML in Parallels 7, wouldn't use it as a Main OS until GM tbh. I run Lion on my Macs with no issues and wouldn't want to compromise them.
My iMac is my Main system and it runs a ton of stuff for work so it is much simpler/safer to experiment with a virtualised ML.
My iMac is my Main system and it runs a ton of stuff for work so it is much simpler/safer to experiment with a virtualised ML.
I'm using ML 10.8 as my main OS on my 2011 MBA and I have had very little issues with it. For me to properly evaluate and test a new OS, I need to be running it on my main machine as the primary OS. For me, this is the only way to figure out what works and doesn't. I do have a good backup of 10.7 install though
Admittedly, I don't run very many hardcore apps on it, though.
Mac mail, Office 2011 (Word, Excel, PPT & Outlook) iWork (occasionally), Safari, Scrivener2 (no issues!) and Dropbox are my primary apps that I use most.
The only real issue I've had is that Dropbox does not always start when I reboot. I occasionally (not always) have to manually double click the app to get it to show up in the menu bar. However, this also happens with iStat menus (latest update) so it could be related to that. I've just been too lazy to test it.
So for me it's been fine. However, as I said earlier, I also have a solid/tested Time Machine backup of my 10.7 install just in case.
If your Mac is crucial to your daily life and you can't imagine waiting for a Time Machine restore to finish... Don't use it as primary.
My two cents...
Admittedly, I don't run very many hardcore apps on it, though.
Mac mail, Office 2011 (Word, Excel, PPT & Outlook) iWork (occasionally), Safari, Scrivener2 (no issues!) and Dropbox are my primary apps that I use most.
The only real issue I've had is that Dropbox does not always start when I reboot. I occasionally (not always) have to manually double click the app to get it to show up in the menu bar. However, this also happens with iStat menus (latest update) so it could be related to that. I've just been too lazy to test it.
So for me it's been fine. However, as I said earlier, I also have a solid/tested Time Machine backup of my 10.7 install just in case.
If your Mac is crucial to your daily life and you can't imagine waiting for a Time Machine restore to finish... Don't use it as primary.
My two cents...