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nutmac

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Official release typically trails release candidate by 5 days (but generally not Friday to Sunday). 2nd RC came out yesterday, so assuming that one is a go, my guess is either Thursday or Monday.
 
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Zippy3505

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Official release typically trails release candidate by 5 days (but generally not Friday to Sunday). 2nd RC came out yesterday, so assuming that one is a go, my guess is either Thursday or Monday.
RC has been doing well on my MBA 2020 i5.
 

Benz63amg

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Official release typically trails release candidate by 5 days (but generally not Friday to Sunday). 2nd RC came out yesterday, so assuming that one is a go, my guess is either Thursday or Monday.
Makes no sense to release it on a different day than the other iOS, ATV etc releases
 
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MacBird

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Considering all the reported BT issues, I hope they won't wait until next week to release 11.2 but it's certainly possible because of the second RC release yesterday.
 

luckman212

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Hope it comes out today, I like to have the weekend to let the dust settle after updates
 

Benz63amg

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It seems odd that it wasn’t released with the other software updates on Tuesday.
Exactly my point, it seems absurd. And not to mention that Big Sur needed the update the MOST as it’s a new MacOS and is still new and filled with odd under the hood bugs
 

TheGeneralist

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Exactly my point, it seems absurd. And not to mention that Big Sur needed the update the MOST as it’s a new MacOS and is still new and filled with odd under the hood bugs
What could potentially be absurd about that? Of course there are a lot of remaining problems to be fixed, but obviously they discovered something within the 1st RC of 11.2 which was still distinctly wrong, presumably much worse than the existing problems with 11.1 - otherwise they would not have decided to halt the release and publish a 2nd release candidate instead.
So from my point of view, it would be senseless / absurd to release the .2 Version anyway. Postponing it is a clear indication that QS is working properly (at least at the moment) and severe problems are discovered and eliminated before the customer has to deal with the consequences of them. Of course this also should have happened with the problems in the original release Version of Big Sur - but to be honest I've never seen a completely bug-free major software release, not at Apple and not anywhere else. Big Sur at least seems to be a lot better than Catalina in that regard...

Therefore, for the moment I'm quite satisfied with the delay, knowing it's for good reasons and saves me unnecessary trouble.
When 11.2 arrives, I will not update immediately, but wait for at least a week or so and install if it then still looks promising. Meanwhile I will deal with the bugs from 11.1 - which also affect me on a daily basis, but are much better to cope with than potentially severe bugs which could be caused by an unstable new release.
 

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What could potentially be absurd about that? Of course there are a lot of remaining problems to be fixed, but obviously they discovered something within the 1st RC of 11.2 which was still distinctly wrong, presumably much worse than the existing problems with 11.1 - otherwise they would not have decided to halt the release and publish a 2nd release candidate instead.
So from my point of view, it would be senseless / absurd to release the .2 Version anyway. Postponing it is a clear indication that QS is working properly (at least at the moment) and severe problems are discovered and eliminated before the customer has to deal with the consequences of them. Of course this also should have happened with the problems in the original release Version of Big Sur - but to be honest I've never seen a completely bug-free major software release, not at Apple and not anywhere else. Big Sur at least seems to be a lot better than Catalina in that regard...

Therefore, for the moment I'm quite satisfied with the delay, knowing it's for good reasons and saves me unnecessary trouble.
When 11.2 arrives, I will not update immediately, but wait for at least a week or so and install if it then still looks promising. Meanwhile I will deal with the bugs from 11.1 - which also affect me on a daily basis, but are much better to cope with than potentially severe bugs which could be caused by an unstable new release.
Ditto. Why would anybody use the word absurd? I want Apple to get it right and after this release get it right next time to
 
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Benz63amg

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What could potentially be absurd about that? Of course there are a lot of remaining problems to be fixed, but obviously they discovered something within the 1st RC of 11.2 which was still distinctly wrong, presumably much worse than the existing problems with 11.1 - otherwise they would not have decided to halt the release and publish a 2nd release candidate instead.
So from my point of view, it would be senseless / absurd to release the .2 Version anyway. Postponing it is a clear indication that QS is working properly (at least at the moment) and severe problems are discovered and eliminated before the customer has to deal with the consequences of them. Of course this also should have happened with the problems in the original release Version of Big Sur - but to be honest I've never seen a completely bug-free major software release, not at Apple and not anywhere else. Big Sur at least seems to be a lot better than Catalina in that regard...

Therefore, for the moment I'm quite satisfied with the delay, knowing it's for good reasons and saves me unnecessary trouble.
When 11.2 arrives, I will not update immediately, but wait for at least a week or so and install if it then still looks promising. Meanwhile I will deal with the bugs from 11.1 - which also affect me on a daily basis, but are much better to cope with than potentially severe bugs which could be caused by an unstable new release.
They had over a month to fix these issues and is not a proper excuse, 11.1 is riddled with bugs there are unacceptable period.
 
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halofan56

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Ditto. Why would anybody use the word absurd? I want Apple to get it right and after this release get it right next time to
I would like to see apple make a product that is not so bloated like this one. They are so bent on being out there in front over Windows and ending up shooting themselves in the foot. For me, other than 11.1 taking a tad longer to load at startup over 11.0.1, it's working good for me. You know after it took 7 updates for Catalina, it ended up being a good OS for me, kind of wished they stuck with that.
 

halofan56

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Official release typically trails release candidate by 5 days (but generally not Friday to Sunday). 2nd RC came out yesterday, so assuming that one is a go, my guess is either Thursday or Monday.
11.1 came out three business days after the RC was released last time.
 

TheGeneralist

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They had over a month to fix these issues and is not a proper excuse, 11.1 is riddled with bugs there are unacceptable period.
Get your point. Yes, I'm also dissatisfied with the constant lack of stability and wish for a much better QS - gladly in exchange for less features, which are never ever as important as a stable system to me.

But if you are seriously into software development, you have to realize that failures always occur, no matter how hard you try to avoid them. There is no such thing as a bug-free OS, and there will never be. Not even in spaceflight, where by far the most effort is spent on ensuring reliability before rocketing the whole thing far beyond reach.
To counter the simple fact that such showstoppers always occur, no matter how good you are, 3 things have to work well:
a. you have to detect the showstopper in time
b. you have to take appropriate measures to fix the damn thing
c. you have to succeed in doing it better on the next try

a. and b. have worked very well in this case, which is the most anyone can expect in such a situation.
c. remains to be seen.
 
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