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Is a HDMI port realistic on the upcoming new iMac?
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expensive cables? I have my macbook pro hooked up to my tv and didn't even spend $20 on cables....
Audio through HDMI simply isn't a significant advantage in a home theater environment. So I run a DVI - HDMI cable from my mac mini to the AVR that is half a meter away and then run a toslink to feed audio from the mac to the AVR. Cry me a river for having to spend 30 seconds making the separate audio connection.
Even if I could run video+audio through HDMI from the mac to the AVR, the audio feature of HDMI would be used nowhere else in the entire system! The AVR will process the audio and feed the various surround sound speakers -- so no need for HDMI there since HDMI would be overkill for feeding individual speakers. Certainly I can and do run HDMI from the AVR to the 50" HD monitor, but that is purely video because I wouldn't be caught dead owning a big screen tv with integrated speakers.
Furthermore, many (if not most) HD appliances out there still do not support the audio aspect of HDMI. Finally, there isn't anything all that high tech about the physical media portion of HDMI. It's 20 strands of copper wire. Big deal, VGA is 15 strands. Sure, HDMI supports nice bandwidths, but that's the magic of lots of tiny wires running in parallel and properly shielded. Display Port using optical fiber sounds more enticing as a future standard because it would be a thinner and more robust cable than HDMI. And what's to say that audio can't ever be encoded into a display port signal? The beauty of a true digital cable is that anything can be potentially piggy backed on the underlying data signal.
umm apple doesn't own display port, they simply use it in there computers...
Also, your entire situation could be flipped onto the other foot, what if someone wanted to hook up their mac to an external monitor that had display port but not HDMI. a couple of dollars for a display port cable, or $20 for an adapter to go from HDMI to mDP.... different strokes for different folks.
Simple fact is apple doesn't really care if you hook up your mac to a tv. They want to make sure you can hook it up to a monitor, which is why they use display port. If you want to hook up your mac to your tv there are a lot of options... $9 for an HDMI adapter is not something really worth whining about, after you just spent over a thousand dollars on a mac anyways.
It's coming to computers all the time... Already most of good monitors have HDMI and a lot GPUs have it too.
its all in the name, DisplayPort is obviously for computer Displays, and LCDs in a computing environment. Or DVI as that standard still exists to some extent.
HDMI (High-Definition Multimedia Interface).. Well it says it all there doesnt it. Its for connecting your media devices up together. Not computers. sure SOME computers have HDMI. Not ALL though, most are still with DVI, or even VGA on the older models. So i'd say for the time being, DVI or display port is the way to go. Due to the fact that all computers should have it, as a bog standard. HDMI on computers in top end GFX cards would surely be an extra would it not??
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HDMI (High-Definition Multimedia Interface).. Well it says it all there doesnt it. Its for connecting your media devices up together. Not computers. sure SOME computers have HDMI. Not ALL though, most are still with DVI, or even VGA on the older models. So i'd say for the time being, DVI or display port is the way to go. Due to the fact that all computers should have it, as a bog standard. HDMI on computers in top end GFX cards would surely be an extra would it not??
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Tell that to all the people in the Apple TV forum with minis.
But seriously, Blu-ray is the standard (for now); 1080p is the standard for now. I can't wait for Super Hi-Vision. DVDs are only still in production for legacy issues. Sadly, everyone hasn't gone to HDTVs or Blu-ray players. I support BD and the PS3, however I still love my Mac mini and PS3 connected to my HDTV. I have a Mini DisplayPort to HDMI adapter, so I'm not complaining. As far as audio from mini -> HDTV, I could care less. All I play is DVD rips and stream Netflix. No BD ripping for me yet. At least until Mac OS X supports it or I buy an external BD player.
But seriously, Blu-ray is the standard (for now); 1080p is the standard for now. I can't wait for Super Hi-Vision. [/QUOTE]
Those are standards for who and what? BR isn't a standard YET, most movies are made in BR too but at least here, they cost the double as DVD and very few people have BR player. Secondly, I have to pay 40 per month if I want to watch HD channels and those are foreign channels like Discovery, zero Finnish channels. If you say those are "standards", everyone should have then in your country which I doubt. BR and 1080p will be standards in few years but so far they aren't IMO
Those are standards for who and what? BR isn't a standard YET, most movies are made in BR too but at least here, they cost the double as DVD and very few people have BR player. Secondly, I have to pay 40 per month if I want to watch HD channels and those are foreign channels like Discovery, zero Finnish channels. If you say those are "standards", everyone should have then in your country which I doubt. BR and 1080p will be standards in few years but so far they aren't IMO
Good points Hellhammer. I misspoke. Blu-ray and HDTVs are gaining speed is what I should have said. Most movies are made in BD and where I live are usually only $5 more than the DVD of it, and usually comes with a digital copy. And to add HD channels for DirecTV it's only $10 extra a month. 1080p and BD will be standard in a few years. But by the time it does, there will be a better thing under development.
HDMI is great for small setups. But seriously, if you have a TV with a stereo next to it, why would you have the audio passing through the TV just for it to be sent back to the stereo? You would want to connect your entertainment computer/drive directly to the stereo anyways.
I see no need for an HDMI port. Oh my god. One extra cable behind my equipment. Please. I'd rather see Apple spend their resources on getting us Blu-Ray.
I see no need for an HDMI port. Oh my god. One extra cable behind my equipment. Please. I'd rather see Apple spend their resources on getting us Blu-Ray.
Lucky you
In Finland HD channels are limited to two vendors atm, I think so prices are high and channels are foreign. Getting my 100Mb/s network next week so my downloads will be flying With my calculations, 13GB movie will come in ~20 minutes! Can't wait!
Lucky you
Man that's fast. Where would you be downloading 13GB movie files?
Torrents of course
Hmm, 13GB is too big for a movie but it's about the size of HD TV show season
Torrents of course
That's a good small size. I encoded 23 episodes of a 45 minute show and it all came out to about 13GB.