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simonthewolf said:
Yeah, but Dell use the LCDs that Apple throw away...

Please post some proof of this. I'm 99.9% sure this is just a typical apple fanboy statement.

On the link above the price for a 20 inch Widescreen (2007wfp) dell monitor (delivered and inc vat) is £285. The price of a similar Apple ACD is £550.

That is absolutely rediculous.
 
Glassbathroom said:
Personaly I hope they don't update the displays anytime soon. I see no real reason to do this.

I run a small business and hope to add displays as people join the company. I would love it if they all match. I can't afford to buy several now to make sure they do.

Buy each person *two* dell displays each. Costs the same. :)
 
Please post some proof of this. I'm 99.9% sure this is just a typical apple fanboy statement.

"Our competitors buy the panels we reject"

Steven P. Jobs, CEO Apple Computer Inc, World Wide Developers Conference 28th June 2004.

Does Jobs count as an Apple fanboy? :confused:
 
simonthewolf said:
emotion said:
Please post some proof of this. I'm 99.9% sure this is just a typical apple fanboy statement.QUOTE]

"Our competitors buy the panels we reject"

Steven P. Jobs, CEO Apple Computer Inc, World Wide Developers Conference 28th June 2004.

Does Jobs count as an Apple fanboy? :confused:

OK, but I bet that isn't even true. My 265 quid is bet on the fact that these are the exact same panels (with the Dell implementing more features for connectivity and height adjustment)

I'm sat in front of a 20 inch Dell panel now (not the WS). Very nice it is too.

I'm not saying the design is better but sometimes the Apple style tax is possibly not worth paying.
 
emotion said:
Buy each person *two* dell displays each. Costs the same. :)

I think you are missing my point. I am not concerned about the cost compared to Dell. I prefer the Apple displays and would like them to stick with the current design for the near future.
 
Glassbathroom said:
I think you are missing my point. I am not concerned about the cost compared to Dell. I prefer the Apple displays and would like them to stick with the current design for the near future.

I realise that but I'm saying that if you wanted it all to match then you could buy a lot of dells and have two types in the office.

We're talking more interior design now rather than computing though. :)
 
emotion said:
I realise that but I'm saying that if you wanted it all to match then you could buy a lot of dells and have two types in the office.

We're talking more interior design now rather than computing though. :)


I am an Architect, so it tends to be a bit of an obsession of mine. :D
 
I think it's extremely likely we get modified displays at WWDC with integrated iSight and an IR extender. The new Mac Pro will obviously have Front Row, but what if you keep it under your desk or in a cabinet? How will you control it? An IR sensor in the display would remove this problem immediately. You could use either the display or the main unit's IR to control Front Row.

Apple may choose to forgo an integrated iSight, but until they do, the vast majority of Mac Pro and Mac mini users will not be available for video conferencing.
 
Glassbathroom said:
I am an Architect, so it tends to be a bit of an obsession of mine. :D

I kind of figured something like that and believe me aesthetics are a major consideration to me too. Just that the difference in price currently is very big (in the UK especially) to the point where common sense would also come into my decision :)
 
emotion said:
I kind of figured something like that and believe me aesthetics are a major consideration to me too. Just that the difference in price currently is very big (in the UK especially) to the point where common sense would also come into my decision :)

I hear what you are saying. My take is as follows. In my experience you are far less likely to replace your display than your mac. It is also the part of the computer that you look at the most. It is worth the extra to me.

When I have made a cheaper purchase led by common sense, I usually end up replacing the item sooner than when I buy the beautiful choice. However there are limits, I drive a second hand Golf, not a Ferrari!
 
Glassbathroom said:
I hear what you are saying. My take is as follows. In my experience you are far less likely to replace your display than your mac. It is also the part of the computer that you look at the most. It is worth the extra to me.

When I have made a cheaper purchase led by common sense, I usually end up replacing the item sooner than when I buy the beautiful choice. However there are limits, I drive a second hand Golf, not a Ferrari!

Remember the panels are the same. I look at the screen not the surround :)

I think the anology with cars would be (and this is real), I've just ordered a brand new Seat Leon which is essentially the same car as an Audi A3. The difference between equivalent models in this case was £5000 (on a £17k car).

Having said that I'm not disagreeing with you at all. :)
 
I have 2 Apple 23" and 2 Dell 24". I use the Apple for Video Production, Motion Graphics, or anything that greatly benefits from better graphics. I use the Dells for software/database development, where I want a lot of windows opened at once and just need decent quality graphics. I am remodeling my office so I can drop a 30" in between the 23's.
 
I was thinking of buying a Dell until I saw all the banding problems they are having with the 2007WFP. It is on offer in the UK for £280, compared to the £450ish (with student discount) for the 20" ACD.

The Dell is tempting, but after all you do look at the display alot, would rather pay extra and avoid problems.

Unless something better comes along:)
 
BeefUK said:
I was thinking of buying a Dell until I saw all the banding problems they are having with the 2007WFP. It is on offer in the UK for £280, compared to the £450ish (with student discount) for the 20" ACD.

The Dell is tempting, but after all you do look at the display alot, would rather pay extra and avoid problems.

Unless something better comes along:)

Interesting...I wasn't aware of the problems. That kind of changes things, it's not just a question of cost but quality then.
 
Yeah, it seems that although they both use the same LCD panel, Dell using different components to deal with the DVI etc...

However I agree with you on the car, emotion they are both the same thing.
 
I recently purchased a 20-inch Apple Cinema Display. This is my first external display. I have to say that I am really happy with the quality as much as I am happy with having some extra display real estate to run multiple applications simultaneously.

On the other topic of this thread: If Apple does change the enclosure of the PowerMac, I hope they continue to use the aluminum. I really like the finish of that material, it looks professional and it is very attractive. Besides, I don't like the idea of having so many different kinds and colours of material being used in Apple's product line, particularly for those items that can accumulate at one's desk––I think it's important they continue to match. I don't think the material should change on impulse (which is to say there may be other justifications, but I don't have the sense there is something fundamentally wrong with the aluminum).
 
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