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Is anyone using Arc browser?

lukas.j said:
Two email addresses are enough: one for family and friends. One for subscriptions, ordering goods, the authorities, etc.

It is better to not trust family and friends as most of them have no clue what they do regarding security when browsing or clicking on an email attachment. And that can unintentionally put you in harm's way. Over the last 35 years I had to change my family & friends email address several times. The "serious" one is still the same.


I didn't say that they are lying. But such a company has to have an income. Where does this income come from besides their start-up capital?


I did not say that. But they will have to – at some point. Not because they are evil, but for economic reasons. Whe then start-up capital will be gone, they will have only two options: charge you for using the browser, or get more funding. Now tell me what is more likely?

I've been involved in some start-ups in the IT world, and the naiveté of such founders is sometimes astonishing. This is how this company starts:

How long will this money last? Two years? Three years?

And they are not in the EU, which means they do not need to publish any legal or tax information about their entity on their website. At least in the EU you know who you are dealing with, because a website needs to have some kind of Impressum, which is part of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation. In the US only California has something similar, albeit weaker: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Consumer_Privacy_Act.

Using the Internet is a calculated risk, which requires a certain degree of caution, which in turn requires certain knowledge about the technology behind it.
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The Browser Company has said that they play to make money selling their tools to enterprises (a lot of companies follow this same business model to fund their free versions).
 
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They name your agreement as Contract, they say that you must comply to something. They say that they may charge you in the future for mystery Services, I don't got what they named as Services (with capital S). After all, you can only use this (another webkit (firefox/safari/chrome) based browser) with registration? Sound's like another scam/BS with sequins. This is literally ChromeFX, by analogy of WindowsFX. Scam that lives until today.

BTW, can't forget my first experience with chrome years ago, that sneaky bastard was installing a background process deep into the system folders with unusual name, which was working all the time collecting data. Took me two days to realize where came that process from and how to delete it. Never ever used since chrome, only chromium based ones. Adobe uses the same practices. Just few days ago, after so many years of experience for cutting **** out of adobes software, found another flea. There was a sketchy nsurlsessiond activity constantly downloading and uploading something by small amounts. In that case little snitch is not a help for you, cause nsurlsessiond is a system process. A normal user will never get what is going on with his computer. I've traced it back to com.adobe.dunamis. That BS is actually scary and no need to question why apple hasn't made a transparent way to watch behavior of running software on your systems. There are some layers of malware removal built in, but they don't say you anything. They think for themselves what is a malware and what is not. Seems that behaviors from partners like Google & Adobe are ok. Big tech brothers in arms. Nowadays, your machines don't belong to you, you buy a product for work and that product works on you instead. Still angry that in past I had to deal with this, when I was in hurry with work. I needed to render my videos and not having a headache with the system and some sneaky background processes eating cpu/hd resources on something else. This is totally moronic and still goes on. While you can't tell no to all apple's background processes, at least watch out what are you installing on your machines.
 
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MacGizmo said:
I gave it a try, but I find it overly complicated for my simple browsing needs.
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I agree. This reminds me of Opera back in the day that had a cult following back in the day but was adopted by only the tech curious. There is already Vivaldi now that is basically a chromium based web browser that like the old Opera was a Swiss Army knife web suite that had a lot of unorthodox features but failed to draw many people way from Internet Explorer or Netscape. Most people who use the internet just want to use a conventional browser that takes them where they want to go. I am sure that initially tech savvy users will be using this for a while.
 
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The UI looks very innovative and polished and I hope we see some shameless copying from Safari or Firefox/Firefox community. I don't like Arc's privacy policy (what does 'we don't sell your data to third-parties' really mean) and that you have to login to use the browser for no apparent reason.

As much as I am intrigued, it can't be my daily browser. If anyone got an invite link, however, I'd love to try it.
 
Just downloaded and using Arc for the first time today. Safari user 95% of the time. Brave the other 5%. First ten minute impressions.

Clean interface.
Split view is super userful.
Can hide the sidebar and make it essentially fullscreen, but still able to access the url to go to the new page.
Fast and quick like most chromium browsers.

Is it "revolutionary"? No. Is it cool? Yes. I cringe at all their marketing like it's a "Think Different" ad saying it's some sort of internet revolution. It's essentially a light Chromium browser designed by UX Designers first with some creative, useful interactions built in.

Will make it my primary for now and see where it goes. I wanted to escape Safari and went to Brave, but the battery life drain was noticeably worse. I hope it's not the same with Arc.
 
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New phenomenon: Tried to start Arc, nothing happened (seemingly), then suddenly I couldn’t open applications anymore because the fork limit was reached. (?!)

Arc was a funny idea, but I’m out.
 
TSE said:
Still using Arc fulltime. Loving it!
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I dip in and out every now and then, but I find myself using fewer of its new features each time. I do still like the full screen UI, but the lack of Keychain integration kills me.
 
TSE said:
Ah, yeah. Any chance it gets to Arc?
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I’m not sure. I know Apple has released an extension to bridge the gap for Chromium browsers (this one, I haven’t been able to try it yet as it needs Sonoma). Although I’d really just like to see them work with 3rd party browsers to just get keychain support baked into the browsers.
 
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