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aegisdesign said:
To some extent, yes. Mobile phone screens are rarely even that big so at least an alternative small screen layout may be useful to some sites.

Buuut, when designing screen size issues, excluding a certain percentage of users becomes justified when you consider your own target segment. What that means is that Apple probably has a motive in creating a larger screen size site a little before total worldwide user adoption because who they're selling to is pretty much the top 20-25 percent of technology consumers. (even the non-switched) Those consumers tend to have a better pixel count on their screens and a larger sitewidth will adress them better, because the graphics just look better. If you can make the site dynamically adapt to everyones needs, fine, but often you'll still have an optimal viewing size. As for mobile sites... definite separate versions, with browser detection, IMHO often quite a nightmare:)
 
i like keeping it around 700-750, for both my browser and designs. i don't worry about verticals on my designs, and i just keep my browser full vertical.

but lets not forget how apple is going to redesign it for its 30th.
 
virus1 said:
i like keeping it around 700-750, for both my browser and designs. i don't worry about verticals on my designs, and i just keep my browser full vertical.

but lets not forget how apple is going to redesign it for its 30th.

just keep in mind that 400 is the vertical scroll threshold for maximized browser on 800*600. most users and robots will pay far more attention to what is above 400px.
 
redAPPLE said:
really? how? :confused:
It's just defining div's with a width that's a % and not a fixed value. It's not hard.

WilMar said:
As for mobile sites... definite separate versions, with browser detection, IMHO often quite a nightmare:)
If you use CSS it's really easy. It's all dependant on the CSS file that you have the page use, which is defined with the media="media_type" attribute of the external CSS link. For example, my father's site www.mahalaw.com has one look in a browser, but if you look at it on a phone it's hot the menu on the top, there are no images, but the phone loads the same page, just aa different CSS file.
 
I'll be the first to mention this... the main Apple web site is getting a bit long in the tooth design-wise... no... it sucks. As for the size issue, try that green button. End of conversation?
 
It's alright for me. Though I understand where you're coming from completely. It just hasn't affected me yet. Now. when I'm using my PowerBook and in 5 years time Apple no longer support G4's, I'll be angry then.

But 800*600? I have less than that viewing my site, and it being about free games I reckon that people with free time are viewing my site. free time people? people in the 1st world. my stats thing says that 800*600 accumulates 4% of my traffic. nothing below that.
But this is just my site. Though I believe in accessibility for all and that.
 
While we are on the Topic of Apple.com how did they make it and what code/modifed code are they using on the site, I really want to know more about how the create, update, etc... I am sure they have the finest and most expensive programmers money can buy, but I was just wondering.
 
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