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Is Apple doomed?
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I mean you're being deliberately obtuse. Tools empower you to do the things they are designed to help you do.
Back to the actual point, Apple's philosophy runs counter to the issue OP is describing in this thread. Argue with Steve Jobs or Tim Cook about the word "empower", not me.
Steve Jobs:
"Especially in our current economic state, we need products that empower our knowledge workers to be as creative as possible. That's what Apple products were designed to do.""
"I envisioned a future where people would be empowered to pursue their passions, not just jobs, and where technology would enable more people to do creative work."
Tim Cook:
"For us, the most important thing we can do is raise people up... It's about giving them tools; it is about empowering people."
Apple website:
"We’re always working to leave the world better than we found it, and to create powerful tools that empower others to do the same."
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Huh?
Were you not paying attention when Apple took the 'Computer' part out of it's name and just started calling itself Apple, Inc?
Were you not paying attention at all when Apple begin offering iCloud?
How about when Apple recently expanded their iCloud tiers from 2TB to 6 and 12TB?
Apple's already in the Cloud business.
They're starting to sink. It will be worsen if they don't make significant move. I have been Apple users almost exclusively since 2009, but now I hold myself from buying new mac or iDevice until they fix / revamp their v26 version software.
0 privacy and all your noodes belong to cloud provider.
Jokes aside, your computer life will remain as a virtual instance on some cloud you have 0 control over.
And I’ll have resilience and a hot backup. I guess it’s what you’re after.
That's a choice.
I choose to keep my data on my own SSDs and HDDs (and NAS). So far, Apple has not demanded that I give them my data or store it in iCloud.
Did you actually have a point at all relevant to the topic?
probably yes, the oldest commercial enterprises in continuous operations are around a thousand years old, so ithe highest probability is that apple will cease to exist a some point, but then again does it actually matter
So how did you get around the lack of AVX instructions on your Xeon(s)?
As for Apple being doomed, that meme has been around since the Apple /// flopped. They do have a QA problem in software though as well as the management problem that let the stoners design Liquid Glass.
That used to be true, it no longer is unless you really are a masochist and want to suffer. Linux can accommodate your kink.
According to pundits, Apple has always been doomed. It has never not been doomed.
stoners would have created something way better than that because we get obsessed with details 😎
Those of us old enough to remember the dotcom bubble can see it all over again. AI companies are building compelling products that nobody is actually paying for. That’s not a business model: it’s a disaster.
Apple never built a search engine and did just fine licensing Google. I see no reason why the same cannot be true of an LLM distillation.
Whilst people like going out and doing things and need a reliable device to chronicle their endeavours I see no reason for Apple to worry.
Apple never built a search engine and did just fine licensing Google. I see no reason why the same cannot be true of an LLM distillation.
Whilst people like going out and doing things and need a reliable device to chronicle their endeavours I see no reason for Apple to worry.
I don’t understand your point. Yes, lots of stuff is going to the cloud, but won’t you always need some kind of a physical device in your hands, on your desk, in your ears, or over your eyes to access and actually use that stuff? And isn’t creating those devices exactly what Apple does?
Don't see anyone suggesting Apple's devices are more than tools.. but tools can enable one to achieve their personal potential, the very definition of empower. So I dont know what is your point or what semantics hair you are trying to split, but sure tools work for me....are you suggesting we work for tools? I mean the literal definition, not the slang.
They are tools, not “empowering”. I’m not empowered when I use a wrench to change oil in my car, and I’m not empowered by using my Mac to check my email. It’s a tool, and can be replaced with another tool if necessary.
All that said, no they are not doomed. They have enough cash to ride out a decade of this nonsense, if need be. I suspect this ai and hardware bubble will pop within the next year or two, and things will start leveling back out. Apple might be bruised (even that’s doubtful), but they will be fine!
Open Core Legacy Patcher.
I agree with you about Apple. For a doomed company they seem to be enjoying quite a tidy profit and have been for decades now.
Not sure why this is the hill so many want to die on, but cool, I'll comment. First, if you dont use a wrench to change your oil what are you going to use that is not some variation on the wrench? Your fingers? Sounds like the wrench empowered you to me.
Surely there was a point in history when such tools were empowering and helped in various construction projects that helped get us out of simple structures. Second. are you really suggesting an electronic device is the same as a wrench? And is the only thing a Mac is capable of is checking email? And if you replace it with another tool that can read your email, is that tool also not empowering you to do so?Like I said, not sure why people object to the word 'empowering' so much, but it doesn't take away from the fact that our tools enable us to do things today that people could only dream of even just a few decades ago. Shrugs.
Not sure why this is the hill so many want to die on, but cool, I'll comment. First, if you dont use a wrench to change your oil what are you going to use that is not some variation on the wrench? Your fingers? Sounds like the wrench empowered you to me.
Like I said, not sure why people object to the word 'empowering' so much, but it doesn't take away from the fact that our tools enable us to do things today that people could only dream of even just a few decades ago. Shrugs.
I just object to a company doing the empowering, but I get your point. You are empowering yourself, and using a tool to help.
I apologize for nitpicking; that's on me.