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Is Apple doomed?
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You said burning oil causes natural disasters *facepalm*
Please don’t sound like Greta Hamas is wonderful Dumberg. Be a real environmentalist if you care about the environment and not a virtue signaller.
That's their stated design philosophy. Nobody said their products were cheap.
I could, if there was any value or any actual clues in the original post, I have spent 42 years bouncing around tech firms and having seen so many "this company is dead" "this one is doomed because of xyz"you start to understand that very few people actually understand the full scope of things, and how they base it off a very narrow view point or personal opinion and have not bother to base it off sound facts. (eg) I bet big and won big on the fact that Nokia was done 3 months after the first iPhone, as you could clearly see they didn't have the cash on hand to weather anything. didn't have the leadership or device pipeline and def didn't have the fan base to support their future. that's before you start to get into the deeper technical stuff.
However to one of your points if you paid attention to stock exchange comments, analysts and hardware providers you would have seen, know that apple has tied up hardware contacts and even supplies of ram- years and years in advance. some of their contacts stretch past the 10 year mark. Your AI comments shows how little you understand about first AI - what apple has said about AI (via their white papers about LLMS and AI as a whole) Maybe worth a read for you about where they sit on AI ) have you also not seen the trend to move away from AI from users?, did you not watch the contracts and companies apple are buying ? on top of that how apple treats product lines. Your post echos the posts when eveyone said apple was years late to the smart watch market. Now tell me who is the biggest smart phone seller.
Now take folding phones. Apple will prob go on to sell more folding phones in their first year than Samsung as ever sold. but everyone is going on about how late they are to market. Im guessing you are someone who expect apple to come out with groundbreaking new devoices every year? and and little to no understanding of how the technology curve works? or even what it is? that's before we talk about how technology demands change, how long and how much R&D has to go into a new Category has to be done.
I was simply calling out your post as its a copy and paste of so many others posts that come out every year, with nothing new being said in them. "Apple is doomed" " Here is the iPhone killer" Apple is too late to do XYZ with no actual facts in it, has apple never not made a misstep ? no. will they make mistakes again yes. Do they have the brains the support and the cash to weather things? yes, much more than most and more cash on hand that's no earmarked for a project) than many countires . No one puts critical thinking into their posts. Much like the AI slop that apple has "missed the boat on" instead they put up "click bait" posts hoping to get 15 mins of fame to feed their needs of feeling important to people they will never met. that's no really a reflection on you. its a reflection on society as a whole that has driven people to become.
2008 Intel Mac, really? I have a 2008 iMac that I keep around for the once every few years I need access to old software that won’t run on newer hardware. It does make me miss the format and tempt me towards the rumoured M5 Max iMac (as if I could ever afford that), but every time I fire it up it’s a game of patience as I have to wait for everything. It’s such a slow, sluggish experience!
Expectations what they are, any Apple silicon Mac is going to crush an old Intel Mac in snappiness, even running a supported Linux distro like MX23 or 25. If that is the lens that ones expectation passes through, running linux on old anything is not going to be acceptable. In that case, buy the newest Mac that can be responsibly afforded and enjoy it as countless folks do
I took a minute to capture some times of apple silicon, Intel and PowerPC hardware times for boot up and browser to MR that I currently have up on my network.
Boot up:
2023 16" MBP Sequoia - 27.04 seconds
2008 MBP MX23 - 41.64 seconds
2005 PowerMac G5 Leopard/Sorbet - 70.42 seconds
Browser to MR
2023 16" MBP Sequoia - Safari 18.6 - 8.95 seconds
2008 MBP MX23 - FireFox 146.0.1 - 13.06 seconds
2005 PowerMac G5 Leopard/Sorbet - Aqua Fox 3 - 10.00 seconds
So as what is pretty obvious I think to most people, apple silicon beat out the others, however current supported linux and even unsupported obsoleted old macOS on 20 year old PowerPC hardware is not this horrible unusable experience for the common daily driver tasks like YT, browsing, AI, email, discord etc. Are we going to process 8k raw video on an old Intel Mac ? Obviously not, but the usual stuff most of us do, absolutely we can and do it comfortably. Anyways, I highly recommend anyone who is curious about linux to give a distro like MX or Big a shot as their installation really is as painless as it gets on older Intel hardware and. It's pretty awesome.
Yeah, switching from an M3 Pro to a Core 2 Duo is a pretty stark contrast for me.Expectations what they are, any Apple silicon Mac is going to crush an old Intel Mac in snappiness, even running a supported Linux distro like MX23 or 25. If that is the lens that ones expectation passes through, running linux on old anything is not going to be acceptable. In that case, buy the newest Mac that can be responsibly afforded and enjoy it as countless folks do
I took a minute to capture some times of apple silicon, Intel and PowerPC hardware times for boot up and browser to MR that I currently have up on my network.
Boot up:
2023 16" MBP Sequoia - 27.04 seconds
2008 MBP MX23 - 41.64 seconds
2005 PowerMac G5 Leopard/Sorbet - 70.42 seconds
Browser to MR
2023 16" MBP Sequoia - Safari 18.6 - 8.95 seconds
2008 MBP MX23 - FireFox 146.0.1 - 13.06 seconds
2005 PowerMac G5 Leopard/Sorbet - Aqua Fox 3 - 10.00 seconds
So as what is pretty obvious I think to most people, apple silicon beat out the others, however current supported linux and even unsupported obsoleted old macOS on 20 year old PowerPC hardware is not this horrible unusable experience for the common daily driver tasks like YT, browsing, AI, email, discord etc. Are we going to process 8k raw video on an old Intel Mac ? Obviously not, but the usual stuff most of us do, absolutely we can and do it comfortably. Anyways, I highly recommend anyone who is curious about linux to give a distro like MX or Big a shot as their installation really is as painless as it gets on older Intel hardware and. It's pretty awesome.
I’ve long since satisfied my curiosity with Linux. It was fun when I wanted to use my computers, as opposed to using my computers to do things. Now though I don’t have the energy to futz with things every time I need to do something, I just want it to work. Not to mention the fact that the software I need doesn’t run on it!
I get that. I have learned patience with kids I suppose. Anytime I feel impatience coming on, I boot up my Blue & White Powermac g3/Tiger and surf MR with Aquafox. Man, that is pain
I guess it’s cool that I technically can still do it, but fun? Even patient folks have their limits I totally get that. Our time is finite; our most valuable asset and if one can afford to have their pc just work, why not?
MX23 was the first distro where it truly did actually work out of the box for me - zero futzing. Everything just worked which was amazing haha. Linux & everything just worked were mutually exclusive until then. There’s a learning curve sure, but none of the “why doesn’t this stupid thing #%^* work” BS that I dealt with other distros LOL just went away *poof* - sounds like many in this thread also experienced that fun
That’s a big one I think. If one needs a specific app, it may simply not exist on Linux. All of my work computers have been and are 100% MS for that simple fact.
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The issue with (desktop) Linux is despite all the progress to make it a great desktop OS there’s much less incentive for developers to port their apps to an OS where piracy is much easier and the typical Linux user openly brags online about piracy and not wanting to pay for apps.
The irony is the same kind of user attacks AI for “stealing from programmers and artists” but then they brag about how they torrent apps and movies. It’s like a platform for hypocritical virtue signallers.
When that attitude changes and Linux has much better app stores and protections for apps then we might see the users acting like grown ups. Then many of the popular productivity apps can come.
I think that if there ever were a Linux distro that were to see mainstream success, and have major software suites ported to it, that subsection on Linux fan wouldn't go near it! Too mainstream for them!
Wow. Linux folks try to build/do something nice and this is how they are portrayed? Don’t worry, Linux isn’t for you.
Easy to install and use Linux distros are for the young person just starting out who has a hand me down pc and needs to get online or the single parent or family trying to make ends meet who needs an ecosystem that they can afford and won’t strangle them with app subscription fees or the elderly person who is on a fixed income and is looking at having to buy a pc they can’t afford because they’re on the edge of lack of support. Linux is for them. I’m glad it’s around for folks who would appreciate the value it represents to thousands of people across the globe who are in this exact place right now.
One more to add to the ignore list*
You speak as if you weren't personally affected. Lucky you. But many people had their lives destroyed. So what's your message to them? Chin up and watch "the big short"?
Markets are fickle, you know. They may correct in the long run. But not in your lifetime. And because we like to have solutions in reasonable time, we seek to fix them with non-market solutions.
"In the long run, we are all dead" -- Keynes.
My 401 was hit like everyone else. I took it on the chin with everyone else. I didn’t give up is what I did. I pushed for my elected officials to support reforms. I didn’t accept being a victim (even though I was; we all were) and I kept contributing even when it felt like I couldn’t afford to. Thats what I did like millions upon millions of other people across the globe. We took it and kept on going while our elected officials did their best to legislate
Protections so it didn’t happen like that again. No market or system is perfect and there are no guarantees. We do our best. There still is no better nor resilient system than free markets. If there were, we’d be using them.
Really? Did our elected officials in fact do "their best" to legislate? I dunno about you but all I ever saw was golden parachutes for the Wall Street investment banks. They got bailed out. The rest got sold out. Did you ever stop to wonder why that happened? Why the powerful got away clean, despite having caused the crash?
These are the same folks, it's worth noting, who lobbied ferociously in the Clinton years to dismantle the Glass Steagall Act -- the one thing that would have stopped this from happening. Did you ever stop to wonder why that happened?
Speaking of protections, many critics note that the protections created after the crash have been very weak compared to what previous generations put in place. Did you ever stop to wonder why they are so weak?
Nobody went to jail. There were no perp walks. Obama's legal guys said the guilty parties were "too big to jail." Did you ever stop to wonder why we didn't jail anyone for the serious crimes they carried out, that hurt so many millions in this country?
I’m not going to debate this with you here. This thread is not the place. I answered your question. My opinion on this ends here.
I hope the new year treats you well.
You don’t know how burning oil causes natural disasters? Have you been living under a rock?
Wow. Linux folks try to build/do something nice and this is how they are portrayed? Don’t worry, Linux isn’t for you.
Easy to install and use Linux distros are for the young person just starting out who has a hand me down pc and needs to get online or the single parent or family trying to make ends meet who needs an ecosystem that they can afford and won’t strangle them with app subscription fees or the elderly person who is on a fixed income and is looking at having to buy a pc they can’t afford because they’re on the edge of lack of support. Linux is for them. I’m glad it’s around for folks who would appreciate the value it represents to thousands of people across the globe who are in this exact place right now.
One more to add to the ignore list*
You can't honestly think there is a single mother or an elderly person on a fixed income who is going to go and learn Linux just to save a few bucks. Single parents don't have time for that - they need something that actually works and isn't a second job in and of itself. The people you described are all people who just need something that works.
Personal desktop Linux for the most part is for people who don't have enough real things to do on their computer. And people who want to look smart for knowing how to use it. I'm sorry, but knowing how to use an operating system that makes you waste your valuable time learning how to fix things that aren't even broken in the first place on other operating systems doesn't make you smart.
A bit too harsh, maybe? Nothing compared to the smug, antisocial Linux "community".
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