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Is Apple Forcing us to Purchase USB C Devices?

MonicaHwang

MonicaHwang

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Apple has removed the traditional USB ports on the MacBook Pro, and the MagSafe charging port, and replaced them all with USB-C/Thunderbolt ports. Does that mean everyone who orders a MBP must buy a usb c adapter?

If you hate the C port, comment "1";
If you like the C port, comment "2".
Just curious about how you guys think of it.

Will casually pick up 2 comments and send you guys my spare MBP cases, stand and other little gadget.
 
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USB-C devices, no, unless you count the required dongles and adapters for your situation.

But Apple this is not new for Apple. They shaved off ethernet in 2012, got rid of VGA in 2002. Variations of dvi/mini DVI and displayport afterwards.

It is the ultimate flexibility with varying degrees of inconvenience depending on what you're trying to do.
 
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I would love it I am in no need of a new computer at the moment but I can't wait to have one port that does it all when I do. For a few quid on cables I can connect any of my peripherals to any port, brilliant. TB3 for a dock is also fantastic enough bandwidth for a huge amount of stuff over one cable can't be argued with either.
 
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yah, good point. That is exactly the same as what Apple 's claimed on Macbook Pro 2017. Apple is leading the trend.
[doublepost=1497605956][/doublepost]lol thanks bro
 
Samuelsan2001 said:
I would love it I am in no need of a new computer at the moment but I can't wait to have one port that does it all when I do. For a few quid on cables I can connect any of my peripherals to any port, brilliant. TB3 for a dock is also fantastic enough bandwidth for a huge amount of stuff over one cable can't be argued with either.
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It seems many of you are using cable, what do you think of those dongle and hubs?
 
99.9% of your usb devices can be used with either a dongle or cable swap.

Like when you buy a printer you have to buy a cable. Now you just buy usb c not a.

Simples
 
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bartvk said:
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Yes. There are a couple of mitigating circumstances.

@killawat was right in that you can simply swap cables

Plus USB-C-to-USB adapters are incredibly cheap, 5-6 bucks:
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=13005

And finally, lots of Apple peripherals already use Bluetooth.
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that is cheap enough thanks
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Gav2k said:
99.9% of your usb devices can be used with either a dongle or cable swap.

Like when you buy a printer you have to buy a cable. Now you just buy usb c not a.

Simples
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hmmm...I just talked to one of my Apple enthusiast friend on Facebook and he told me he hates C port lol. He considers it a commercial trick lol
 
I don't think anyone hates USB-C, we hate Apple didn't include just a single USB-A port on the Laptop line while almost every USB device outthere is USB-A. That greedy company didn't even include an adapter well knowningly, that they still are going to ship future device with USB-A cables and not USB-C.
 
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MonicaHwang said:
hmmm...I just talked to one of my Apple enthusiast friend on Facebook and he told me he hates C port lol. He considers it a commercial trick lol
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Then he's not thinking straight its the new standard and the only way to include TB3, there are excellent design and engineering reasons for using only USBc / TB3 ports. just because he doesn't understand them doesn't mean they aren't there.

A commercial trick is putting in pointless fat old legacy ports in because people don't want to spend $20 on a few new cables (when they have just spent $2000 on a new computer) and hate change.
 
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Definitely on board with the USB C changes. I have several USB C devices that I can now charge with the same cables. What I use the most, however, is a 32GB USB C/USB A double-ended drive that I use to transfer files between all my devices. It's great being able to put some songs or whatever files on it and then plug it into my phone and have access to them right away. Granted, I now have a small bag of dongles, but it's not too uncomfortable to carry it around.
 
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I just bought a 2-pack of these. Small and unobtrusive. No problem.

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It is not a big deal. Other companies (Samsung, LG, Dell, etc) are already switching over to USB C on their products. They want the smaller size connectors, increased functionality, and TB3 compatibility option.

The biggest shame is that Apple used the Lightning on the latest iPhone. They should have switched to USB-C. Hopefully they will with the next gen iPhone.
 
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jerryk said:
It is not a big deal. Other companies (Samsung, LG, Dell, etc) are already switching over to USB C on their products
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Yup, and Dell's business laptops (Latitude) are now losing the drop-in dock connection and going exclusively to a USB-C dock/port replicator. They are not charging through that connection, or there is at least a regular charge port to go with it.
 
Samuelsan2001 said:
Then he's not thinking straight its the new standard and the only way to include TB3, there are excellent design and engineering reasons for using only USBc / TB3 ports. just because he doesn't understand them doesn't mean they aren't there.

A commercial trick is putting in pointless fat old legacy ports in because people don't want to spend $20 on a few new cables (when they have just spent $200 on a new computer) and hate change.
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People hate that they HAVE TO spend another $20 when they just spent close to $2,000 for a new computer. People expect that these kinds of ubiquitous port to be provided while they are still relevant.
 
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USB-C is going to be the future universal connection. Adoption of new tech is always expensive. Eventually it will probably be cheap dongles and cables.
 
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hallux said:
Yup, and Dell's business laptops (Latitude) are now losing the drop-in dock connection and going exclusively to a USB-C dock/port replicator. They are not charging through that connection, or there is at least a regular charge port to go with it.
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The Dell XPS 15, and I assume the XPS 13, charge via either the dedicated charging port or via USB-C connected to appropriately powered dock/charger.
 
jerryk said:
The Dell XPS 15, and I assume the XPS 13, charge via either the dedicated charging port or via USB-C connected to appropriately powered dock/charger.
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I imagine the Latitudes will as well (I believe the Precision M5510 did as it used the same dock as they're selling for the Latitude) but until I see it in person I won't know.
 
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addictzz said:
People hate that they HAVE TO spend another $20 when they just spent close to $2,000 for a new computer. People expect that these kinds of ubiquitous port to be provided while they are still relevant.
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Man, you would have hated the 90s when apple eliminated serial, parallel, and scsi. USB was a niche connector before that and so associated with that one move, many early USB devices are translucent blue
 
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Apart from maybe something with a hardwired cable or a usb thumb drive. Everything is plugged in via a removable at both ends cable. All you need to do is buy the cable that will fit the ports it needs to plug into. If by chance you can't change the cable then you need an adapter.
 
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Is Apple forcing us to purchase USB-C devices? Yes - either new devices, new adapters, or new cables.

I would have preferred one USB-A port and a SD card slot. However, going to all-USB-C is far better than not adopting USB-C at all (especially in regards to a system that is known for sporting a long service life.) USB-C can do what USB-A can, but USB-A cannot do what USB-C can. USB-C will eliminate the need to have 3, 4, or 5 different USB derivative cables. It will also extend the durability of cell phones, tablets, external hard drives, and other portable devices that have historically used a USB port of terrible durability.

USB-C is going to become one of the most significant tech developments in a long time IMO. Apple absolutely should, in my opinion, adopt USB-C on the iPhone. It may have the same plug-unplug cycle rating as Lightning, but USB-C is unquestionably more robust. Lightning is the very legacy technology that USB-C is intended to replace.
 
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IllIllIll said:
I just bought a 2-pack of these. Small and unobtrusive. No problem.

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IllIllIll said:
I just bought a 2-pack of these. Small and unobtrusive. No problem.

How much is it?
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ZapNZs said:
Is Apple forcing us to purchase USB-C devices? Yes - either new devices, new adapters, or new cables.

I would have preferred one USB-A port and a SD card slot. However, going to all-USB-C is far better than not adopting USB-C at all (especially in regards to a system that is known for sporting a long service life.) USB-C can do what USB-A can, but USB-A cannot do what USB-C can. USB-C will eliminate the need to have 3, 4, or 5 different USB derivative cables. It will also extend the durability of cell phones, tablets, external hard drives, and other portable devices that have historically used a USB port of terrible durability.

USB-C is going to become one of the most significant tech developments in a long time IMO. Apple absolutely should, in my opinion, adopt USB-C on the iPhone. It may have the same plug-unplug cycle rating as Lightning, but USB-C is unquestionably more robust. Lightning is the very legacy technology that USB-C is intended to replace.
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Yup, USB C is the trend. Some of Samsung's notebook, Google Chromebook and even Huawei Matebook adopt USB C now.
 
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