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ok, think when you post. Its like a dictionary, a dictionary gives the "legal definition" meanwhile someone else can come up with w.e they want. Seems that the term "ultra portable" does not fit a legit set of rules. It's more a term based on guidelines.

I find your post worthless and flamming. Try to stay out of topics if you do not have anything to say.

There is no definition of ultraportable. It's a marketing term and not a dictionary term. Hell, the only google definition is from Wikipedia, so it seems that the term itself is up for debate. The definition on Wikipedia isn't even clearly explained, as evidenced by use of the term "often" in the explanation.

I find your post grammatically incorrect and misleading. Perhaps you should think before you create a new thread.
 

tom1971

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apperently ultraportable has part of its deffinition as:
weight: 1 kg

1 kilogram = 2.20462262 pounds

the mac air is 3 pounds.

I still find it as an ultraportable in a way, but legally are they allowed to announce it as an ultraportable?

Where did you find that definition?
I can smell a class-action law-suit from our southern neighbors :rolleyes:
 

twist2b

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There is no definition of ultraportable. It's a marketing term and not a dictionary term. Hell, the only google definition is from Wikipedia, so it seems that the term itself is up for debate. The definition on Wikipedia isn't even clearly explained, as evidenced by use of the term "often" in the explanation.

I find your post grammatically incorrect and misleading. Perhaps you should think before you create a new thread.

If you had eyes to see, you would notice that we have established that! WOW I hope you are one of a kind! Also I created a new post, not a new thread. If you do not know basic terms, do not throw more complicated ones in my face and hope to look smart.

The dictionary site "wikipedia" was made by NON official people (average joe) which says 2 kg or more. Now, Everyone knows that most to all words need an official meaning otherwise you could not have a language. If dog meant a cat to me and 2,000 people, but a dog to you and 1,000 people: that would create chaos! (just explaining what I am trying to say, obviously there are more then 3,002 people.)

Again, from what we have established, it seems that the word "ultraportable" is up to the owner of the product, and the judges (potential buyers) can choose for themselves. Though it is clear that most agree the Macbook Air to be an ultraportable.
 

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Yeah...

If you had eyes to see, you would notice that we have established that! WOW I hope you are one of a kind! Also I created a new post, not a new thread. If you do not know basic terms, do not throw more complicated ones in my face and hope to look smart.

The dictionary site "wikipedia" was made by NON official people (average joe) which says 2 kg or more. Now, Everyone knows that most to all words need an official meaning otherwise you could not have a language. If dog meant a cat to me and 2,000 people, but a dog to you and 1,000 people: that would create chaos! (just explaining what I am trying to say, obviously there are more then 3,002 people.)

Again, from what we have established, it seems that the word "ultraportable" is up to the owner of the product, and the judges (potential buyers) can choose for themselves. Though it is clear that most agree the Macbook Air to be an ultraportable.

1. You did start a new thread. You're the OP of this thread, aren't you? Aren't you the one who started the thread and posted first? A thread about asking about Apple lieing (sic) to us about an ultraportable? If you don't know basic terms, try not to correct people.
 

roland.g

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I'll go with ultrasalivable. I drool over wanting one though I don't really need one. If I get a notebook I will probably go with the MBA over the MB because of the weight difference.
 

ckurowic

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apperently ultraportable has part of its deffinition as:
weight: 1 kg

1 kilogram = 2.20462262 pounds

the mac air is 3 pounds.

I still find it as an ultraportable in a way, but legally are they allowed to announce it as an ultraportable?

It saddens me that you spend your time researching such things. It also saddens me that you forced us to endure 8 decimal places without rounding to the nearest hundred. I suggest taking up a new hobby. Yoga, jogging, or cardio kick boxing are all great alternatives to mega-geekdom.
 

twist2b

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It saddens me that you spend your time researching such things. It also saddens me that you forced us to endure 8 decimal places without rounding to the nearest hundred. I suggest taking up a new hobby. Yoga, jogging, or cardio kick boxing are all great alternatives to mega-geekdom.

What on earth!!! I got those specs from the internet, google is amazing.... this is what I did:
typed "kg to pound"
DONE I had the specs instantly. Took me less then a minute. And why did I research this? BECAUSE, AS I SAID ALREADY I wanted to prove to some one who thought the Air was trash that it was a ultraportable. If you can only post a jerkish comment then YOU get a life, may I recommend a psychiatrist!

oh and for the person who said that I started the topic, your previous post sounded like it was putting down a post of mine, not my original thread starter since my original post was a question. Wow, just don't post in this thread anymore please. That is a request from the thread starter.
 

Consultant

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What on earth!!! I got those specs from the internet, google is amazing.... this is what I did:
typed "kg to pound"
DONE I had the specs instantly. Took me less then a minute. And why did I research this? BECAUSE, AS I SAID ALREADY I wanted to prove to some one who thought the Air was trash that it was a ultraportable. If you can only post a jerkish comment then YOU get a life, may I recommend a psychiatrist!

oh and for the person who said that I started the topic, your previous post sounded like it was putting down a post of mine, not my original thread starter since my original post was a question. Wow, just don't post in this thread anymore please. That is a request from the thread starter.

Your tone sounds quite negative, although you mentioned your intention is different.

Think about this, if you mention "I need some help to support why MBA is an ultraportable" instead "is apple lying", I think the responses will be different.
 

NT1440

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Your tone sounds quite negative, although you mentioned your intention is different.

Think about this, if you mention "I need some help to support why MBA is an ultraportable" instead "is apple lying", I think the responses will be different.

hey, a catchy title often sparks up a good discussion as this thread has provided. And to the guy telling TS to get a life, whats wrong with enjoying the tech world in your free time? I do, im sure 90% of the people here enjoy tech more than the "average joe" (we all did sign up for a tech forum after all). Just lay off the guy, all he did was ask a question, sure it may have been worded this way or that, but in no way he was hostile, so lay off.
 

DesignerOnMac

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Ultra-portables are considered as Subnotebooks. The MBA is not a subnotebook. It is larger. A subnotebook, however can weight as little as 1 kg up to 2 kg, (or more).
 

twist2b

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Ultra-portables are considered as Subnotebooks. The MBA is not a subnotebook. It is larger. A subnotebook, however can weight as little as 1 kg up to 2 kg, (or more).

Oh, see now that is interesting. Why do you think it is NOT a subnotebook? Because this is what my friend said. And I tend to disagree. It is smaller, lighter, and it sacrifices some processing power and some hardware for more portability.
 

alphaod

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They call my X60 tablet an ultraportable; it feels like it weighs as much as my MBP. I don't call that an ultraportable.

BTW, I think the only ultraportables are the OQO, Sony UMPC, etc.
 

Philflow

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UMPC's are a different class than ultraportable's.

The class of Ultraportables notebooks weigh all around 1,2-1,3kg.
Sony G, TZ, Thinkpad X61, Macbook Air, Dell Lattitude D430, HP 2510p.

It is manufacturer like Dell that is calling their M1330 (1,8 kg) an ultraportable that may be considered as false advertising.

But still that is subjective though, because there are not hard standards, like has been mentioned several times in this thread.
 
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