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I've never played Call of Duty Modern Warfare before, but was wondering if Black Ops is really worth buying. For those who already have it, is it really that good? I like FPS games like Counter-Strike, Day of Defeat, Left 4 Dead 2, and Quake Live. And if I went to buy Black Ops, should I also get a PS3 gaming headset like Tritton AX 720, which seems to be overpriced in Canada from Best Buy at $169.99. (Worth that price?) If not, should I just continue playing the games I love already and get a SteelSeries 7H USB headset for my mac? And is using a PS3 controller to play a FPS console game much harder, compared to using a mice and a mousepad?
 
I've heard a lot of negative reviews towards Black Ops - most people prefer MW2 or Medal of Honor to it. It's far more run-and-gun than any of the FPS games that you've played, and L4D2 is a rather different type of game entirely. :)

I wouldn't buy that headset, you might as well go with an inexpensive Bluetooth headset if you're going to get one.

Is it much harder? Not with console staples such as auto-aim, fewer players, and a slower pace. But aiming is far less precise and offers you less control over using a keyboard and mouse. I've had a lot of experience with both methods and I'll always go for keyboard/mouse over a controller.
 
Which has better single player-- MoH or CoD Black Ops?

Black Ops has a much better campaign than MoH. Personally i think Black Ops has a much better multiplayer as well but i guess some people are tired of cod these days. MoH was decent but CoD still wins in the fps department.
 
I'm not really enjoying it. I didn't enjoy MW2 that much (not played MoH or MW1). There's a tight focus on all out action but I'm not getting much sense of replayability once the game is over.

That said nothing in the past 3 years has pulled me far from TF2 (and more recently L4D1 and 2).
 
It's nothing on Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare. It's buggy rather unplayable at best on the PC. Black Ops is another COD that has failed to impress since COD4.
 
I'll agree. CoD4 was simply amazing. I was in the 360 beta for that and I proclaimed it to be better than Halo to my buddies. They scoffed, and then later in November it was the shiiizzz.

But yeah I enjoyed CoD2 a lot too, but MW2 and WaW have been okay, campaigns were exciting but short, and MP held my attention briefly. BO I haven't touched SP yet and MP is already pretty boring. It has made me VERY interested in Bad Company 2: Vietnam though
 
Medal of Honour takes about 5 hours to complete in single player which is pathetic, not sure about Black Ops but Treyarch have done reasonably long single player campaigns in the past. Frankly if it is single player you are after then I suspect both will frustrate due to the high price for short campaigns and Modern Warfare 2 is what you want for multiplayer.
 
It's pretty good, even better than Medal of Honor. Still worse than MW2 since that one had THE style.
 
Most of the pro gamer community agrees that it's vastly superior to MW2, which was ruined on the PC by non dedicated servers and hacking, and on the Xbox and PS3 by OMA dangerclose tubing.

Black Ops is much more balanced, much less new player friendly. It takes more bullets to kill people, so there's much more aiming and timing involved, and the guns are all harder to aim because they have recoil. MW2 was basically a point and click one hit kill game (and with grenade launchers you didn't even have to click on your target.

I'd check out the gameplay videos and commentaries on Youtube to get a feel for the game.
 
OMA = one man army
Danger close = increased explosive damage
Tubing = underbarrel grenade launcher (noob tube)

And yes I'd agree that it is superior to MW2. I think its much closer to MW1 than people are giving it credit for as well

I heard mw2 sucks for multiplayer on pc is black ops better in that perspective?
 
After playing Bad Company 2 forever, regular interface oriented maps feel really 1 dimensional.

Bottom line - Its still just Counter-Strike 1.6 with different guns. blah.
 
After playing Bad Company 2 forever, regular interface oriented maps feel really 1 dimensional.

Bottom line - Its still just Counter-Strike 1.6 with different guns. blah.

I know what you mean. Playing both is nice for the variety but there is nothing quite like destruction factoring into a game. No matter how many times you play a map, it's never the same.
 
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I just picked it up last night. It is pretty decent. Although, in all honestly, I think all the pre-release hype and reviews I read ruined it for me. I was expecting a bit more after the huge build up.
 
I know what you mean. Playing both is nice for the variety but there is nothing quite like destruction factoring into a game. No matter how many times you play a map, it's never the same.

Exactly. Call of duty is a video game. Battlefield is a war simulator. Personally I prefer the latter.
 
I rented it and glad I did.

Things I liked:

--Money system. You can buy what you want instead of waiting until you have leveled up twenty or thirty times

--Zombies. Started playing COD with MW2 so I had never played zombies before. Lot of fun and would be even more fun with multiplayer.

Things I didn't like:

--Compared to MW2 this game looked like a cartoon In my opinion. The multiplayer system looks like I am playing a Xbox game not a Xbox 360 game.

--Having to level up to level 19 to play hardcore matches. I don't like regular after discovering hardcore.

--Once again a sub machine gun is some how more deadly than a assault rifle shooting a much higher velocity bullet that weighs more and is bigger than a 9mm round.

--Multiplayer maps are either way to big or to small. Nuketown I think is a good quick paced map for 2v2, 4v4 or maybe 6v6. All the other maps I played would seem better for ground war games. At least 8v8. I ran around the jungle map twice before finding one of the other team.

I played about 6 levels of the campaign before I had to return the game. Campaign side of it is fun I think and looks a lot better than multiplayer. But I still think this was a step down for MW2. I was very impressed with MW2 when it came out last year. Black Ops was way over hyped just like Halo Reach was.
 
Most of the pro gamer community agrees that it's vastly superior to MW2, which was ruined on the PC by non dedicated servers and hacking, and on the Xbox and PS3 by OMA dangerclose tubing.

Black Ops is much more balanced, much less new player friendly. It takes more bullets to kill people, so there's much more aiming and timing involved, and the guns are all harder to aim because they have recoil. MW2 was basically a point and click one hit kill game (and with grenade launchers you didn't even have to click on your target.

I'd check out the gameplay videos and commentaries on Youtube to get a feel for the game.

I personally feel this game is MUCH more new player friendly. I never got anywhere in MW2 or the original MW. The fact that I got the base SMG and upgraded it with a Red-Dot sight and rapid fire then bought the ninja perk (all gained at a very early level) and I became a force to be reckoned with. I could NEVER say that about COD4 or MW2.

What sets this game apart that I feel a lot of the diehard MW players dislike is 1) its the exact same engine, it wasn't upgraded. Only the motion capture tech was. (Which is absolutely spectacular. Courtesy of GIANT studios of Avatar fame.) 2) It IS balanced. You can play 24hours straight, buy a load of weapons and be unstoppable. You can buy a powerful assault rifle and still get beat by a kid with two scorpions who just happens to know a map better. Where MW2 in particular, this wasn't the case. Good weapons > Lesser weapons. 3) The kill-streaks in this game give a far smaller advantage. You can't get a quick kill and all of a sudden you are a god. Most of the useful kill streaks only give you a slight edge (spy plane) or require a decent amount of skill or team work (The RC car or the dogs). And last but not least 4) The fact that its a new game and everyone is starting as a newbie. COD players are 1 billion times whiner than the worst Halo player. Just because they cant instantly "pwn s0m n3wbs" they get pissy.

My thoughts on it. Is its a keeper. From someone who has hated the COD franchise after 2, I love it and play the heck out of it. The voice casting in the single player is fantastic, the writing is sharper than both MoH and MW2 and the pacing is good. And for the multi, for a guy like you hopping in for the first time, I personally feel this game is much more friendly to new players as there isn't anything in the game that REALLY gives someone an edge. You can stick with the default loads and do halfway decent. And anything that is made by DICE (MOH multi, Battlefield, etc) it requires an Epic amount of skill, planning and teamwork. Something that makes new players want to jump off a pier.
 
Exactly. Call of duty is a video game. Battlefield is a war simulator. Personally I prefer the latter.

This i Completely agree with. I have preferred Bad Company 2 over MW2 and MoH and all the other games of its ilk recently. The fact that the environment is destructible, maps are huge, and it by default plays like COD on hardcore, it just lends a huge level of intensity and realism. Very high on the immersion factor. If you haven't picked up BC2 first I would snag that long before playing COD. Its very much NOT newbie friendly but it is far more rewarding and the new Vietnam addon that practically gives you a new game will be out soon.

Also as far as the headset question. Personally I would recommend for the xbox something other than tritton. I have had two of them and they have never been worth even the price i paid for them (free). For that kind of dough id drop the 200US on a set of A30 Astro's or the 169US for the turtle beach X41 set.
 
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