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belvdr

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It doesn't seem that over the top to me. For starters, I think Apple should drop the "magic" term and its derivatives. It drives home the point the marketers have nothing else to add.

Plus, many people have questioned whether OS X and iOS will remain separate entities.
 

0098386

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In a way it makes sense. A locked OS gives them the ability to control what goes in a computer. Such a thing, provided security is tough, would eliminate piracy. Something I'm sure Apple wants.

You just have to look over the forums here, users claiming their iPhones, iPads are valid computers. If that mentality spreads then a potential switching from OSX to iOS for desktop use would be a lot easier.

Hopefully it doesn't happen. That OSX remains in place as a nice open OS for our computers and iOS remains on the iToys. Personally I just hope the iToys are no indication of the future of computers - which doesn't half go against the grain on this forum :D. Anyway I do think it's a good topic for an article, I think Gizmodo has a valid argument here.
 

kernkraft

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http://gizmodo.com/5598828/apple-ma...ning-of-the-end-for-mac-os-x?skyline=true&s=i

I mean ******* me reading this drivel lowered me 10 IQ points! *smacks head* I give them credit for stunning bloody graphic, cool. :rolleyes:

I swear they create these over-the-top articles just to drive web traffic!

So are you claiming that your intelligence is superior to theirs?

Calling Gizmodo "the dumbest site on the internet" might have been a mistake to prove your point...

They are a legitimate business. However unprofessionally they acted in certain issues, they are still a popular site.

In a way, it is like the issue with tabloids. You know that they serve an audience that you might largely disagree with, but they do their job well. In the end, if you cannot treat their opinions with reasonable criticism, it is your fault.
 

PerfSeeker

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So are you claiming that your intelligence is superior to theirs?

Calling Gizmodo "the dumbest site on the internet" might have been a mistake to prove your point...

They are a legitimate business. However unprofessionally they acted in certain issues, they are still a popular site.

In a way, it is like the issue with tabloids. You know that they serve an audience that you might largely disagree with, but they do their job well. In the end, if you cannot treat their opinions with reasonable criticism, it is your fault.

Gizmodo regularly pumps out these articles like "The Desktop is Dead" and other such b.s.

You just have to look over the forums here, users claiming their iPhones, iPads are valid computers. If that mentality spreads then a potential switching from OSX to iOS for desktop use would be a lot easier.

I can't believe that Steve Jobs thinks that small mobile devices replace the need for a full blown desktop OS.
 

jav6454

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Gizmodo regularly pumps out these articles like "The Desktop is Dead" and other such b.s.



I can't believe that Steve Jobs thinks that small mobile devices replace the need for a full blown desktop OS.

So? Don't read them. I don't understand why people read stuff they don't like and then go on rants on how 'stupid' or 'dumb' what they just read is knowingly full well they weren't going to like it in the first place.

In my eyes, it pretty much swaps the roles. You figure that out.
 

ravenvii

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I actually don't think it's that over the top. Sensational title maybe, but there's a lot of truth in it in my opinion. I do think Apple saw the Magic Mouse, then the Magic Trackpad, as transitional devices, and will be what Apple hopes the end of the classic mouse, and thus the classic notion of a mouse pointer.

I'm not quite sure what Apple's vision of iOS on the desktop will be, but I have a feeling it's not what most people think (an touchscreen iMac - though the screen would probably be touchscreen, it wouldn't be the main input method).

The future could be very interesting indeed.
 

PerfSeeker

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In a way it makes sense. A locked OS gives them the ability to control what goes in a computer. Such a thing, provided security is tough, would eliminate piracy. Something I'm sure Apple wants.

You just have to look over the forums here, users claiming their iPhones, iPads are valid computers. If that mentality spreads then a potential switching from OSX to iOS for desktop use would be a lot easier.

Hopefully it doesn't happen. That OSX remains in place as a nice open OS for our computers and iOS remains on the iToys. Personally I just hope the iToys are no indication of the future of computers - which doesn't half go against the grain on this forum :D. Anyway I do think it's a good topic for an article, I think Gizmodo has a valid argument here.

So what replaces the mouse pointer unless you go full touch on desktop which means you need some really innovative solutions to solve the ergonomic problem of "I can't touch my monitor all day long".
 

0098386

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So what replaces the mouse pointer unless you go full touch on desktop which means you need some really innovative solutions to solve the ergonomic problem of "I can't touch my monitor all day long".
Oh exactly, I don't agree with it either and if Apple do go down the multitouch display/iOS desktop route then they've lost me as a customer.
 

PerfSeeker

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Oh exactly, I don't agree with it either and if Apple do go down the multitouch display/iOS desktop route then they've lost me as a customer.

Considering they started out as Apple Computer and have become just Apple, it's a very worrying sign. I've been reading MR archives and this idea of Apple abandoning real computers is very pervasive.
 

macfan881

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Gizmodo has gone childish since the whole proto type phone my last straw with them was they did this big thing that apple should give out free bumpers and steve should come out to apoligize at the confrence but after that they still had to bitch and moan about the things they wanted.;)
 

Eraserhead

macrumors G4
Nov 3, 2005
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Seems pretty reasonable to me...

Desktop OS's are all far too complex really.

EDIT: I mean even when doing software development the file system gets in the way more often than its useful.
 

Eraserhead

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Nov 3, 2005
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Yeah who needs the command prompt, file sharing, network access. Everything should just be a dumbed down entertainment UI. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

For software development and high-end scientific users, sure, the command line is useful. For file sharing you can use something like Sharepoint or you could write an App which does it and that other programs can access as a "library" of all the shared folders merged together.
 

Queso

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The Magic Trackpad is the beginning of the end of the traditional WIMP GUI. Soon there will be no mouse pointer.

But this does not mean Mac OSX is becoming iOS. It means Mac OSX is incorporating the new interface. Then about five years later Microsoft will do it complete with an ad campaign saying it was their users' ideas that inspired them.

And people will believe it.
 

PerfSeeker

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For software development and high-end scientific users, sure, the command line is useful. For file sharing you can use something like Sharepoint or you could write an App which does it and that other programs can access as a "library" of all the shared folders merged together.

At the very least developers and IT specialists need a full desktop OS. Let me know when Wireshark appears on iOS. :rolleyes:
 

Sun Baked

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Somehow with this and the idiocy and magic talk, I somehow can now see Jason Chen holding his Gizmodo ring above his head and shouting "Idiots of the internet unite..." to enable the special powers he has.
 

Eraserhead

macrumors G4
Nov 3, 2005
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Let me know when Wireshark appears on iOS. :rolleyes:

Assuming Apple would allow it in the AppStore why couldn't you have Wireshark for iOS? Its a GUI app.

And in general when doing software development you spend most of your time using an IDE, in which case you aren't actually using the desktop filesystem at all.
 

PerfSeeker

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Assuming Apple would allow it in the AppStore why couldn't you have Wireshark for iOS? Its a GUI app.

And in general when doing software development you spend most of your time using an IDE, in which case you aren't actually using the desktop filesystem at all.

What are you talking about? I'm using the file system all day long with the iDE to move data packages around, check caches, etc... Some of us really do need the full OS and nothing you iFans can say about it.
 

Eraserhead

macrumors G4
Nov 3, 2005
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What are you talking about? I'm using the file system all day long with the iDE to move data packages around, check caches, etc...

Its not as if the iPhone doesn't actually have a file system. But if your working from within the IDE you don't actually care where the files themselves are located.

And if you are hard coding directories into your application that is generally bad anyway.
 
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