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I have been so excited for iCloud Messages.... The thought of finally being able to manage all of my messages seamlessly across all devices was one of the things I was looking forward to most.

It seems like Apple has used its might to remove from even archiving sites as previously mentioned.
 
Apple Magic. You’re remembering wrong. Apple has never mentioned iCloud Messages. We all just dreamt it.

I actually just found and checked the WWDC version and to my surprise, it isn't there either. https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.apple.com/ios/ios-11-preview/

The only place I see it officially mentioned is the WWDC keynote.

I'm flabbergasted. I would have staked my life on it. It was even floating around here. Just wow.
 
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I'm flabbergasted. I would have staked my life on it. It was even floating around here. Just wow.

Don't fret Apple cannot hide EVERY screw-up they've made.

Apple brings iMessage to iCloud
By Nick Statt and Micah Singleton Jun 5, 2017, 2:12pm EDT
Video Included from WWDC with Federighi specifically showcasing this.

Apple Removes ‘Messages in Cloud’ From iOS 11 Beta 5; Says Feature Will Ship in Future Update

How safe is iMessage in the cloud?
- great read!
privatei-federighi-keynote-wwdc-2017-security-100725260-large.jpg



iMessages in iCloud Option Missing | Apple Developer Forums

BarryMcKelvey
Aug 17, 2017 12:56 PM
(in response to Shadow_Walker)
Hi Messages in the Cloud were removed in iOS 11 Beta 5. It states this in the release notes and it will be added again in a later update. Barry


Apple said:
Copied from iOS 11 Beta 8 release notes.

The “Messages in iCloud” feature was removed in iOS 11 beta 5 and will ship in a future software update to iOS 11. Users can continue to receive and store messages on each device, and they can continue to backup and restore messages using iCloud Backup.

Direct link to the release notes in PDF

Since I don't have a Developer Account and cannot view the PDF link above google did it's primary job: source:
https://forums.macrumors.com/attachments/ios_11_beta_8_release_notes-pdf.714863/
 
Don't fret Apple cannot hide EVERY screw-up they've made.

Apple brings iMessage to iCloud
By Nick Statt and Micah Singleton Jun 5, 2017, 2:12pm EDT
Video Included from WWDC with Federighi specifically showcasing this.

Apple Removes ‘Messages in Cloud’ From iOS 11 Beta 5; Says Feature Will Ship in Future Update

How safe is iMessage in the cloud?
- great read!
privatei-federighi-keynote-wwdc-2017-security-100725260-large.jpg



iMessages in iCloud Option Missing | Apple Developer Forums



Since I don't have a Developer Account and cannot view the PDF link above google did it's primary job: source:
https://forums.macrumors.com/attachments/ios_11_beta_8_release_notes-pdf.714863/

Thanks for icloud messages reminder.
PDF states icloud messages will arrive via future ios11 update.
I was beginning to think maybe ios12.
I feel somewhat exclusive using this feature abeit temporarily before it was removed.
 
Thanks for icloud messages reminder.
PDF states icloud messages will arrive via future ios11 update.
I was beginning to think maybe ios12.
I feel somewhat exclusive using this feature abeit temporarily before it was removed.

Just to be clear the quote stated “The “Messages in iCloud” feature was removed in iOS 11 beta 5 and will ship in a future software update to iOS 11. ”

I hate to be a stickler on words and perception but it seems to me that ‘in a future update TO iOS 11’ can mean iOS 11.3 onward and upward to anything after be it iOS 12/13/14 etc.
 
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Just to be clear the quote stated “The “Messages in iCloud” feature was removed in iOS 11 beta 5 and will ship in a future software update to iOS 11. ”

I hate to be a stickler on words and perception but it seems to me that ‘in a future update TO iOS 11’ can mean iOS 11.3 onward and upward to anything after be it iOS 12/13/14 etc.

Agree it could have been too future ios11 update.
Maybe in time for SE -X upgrade
 
Does anybody have any idea when this is shipping? Is it included in the current beta?
 
There was a new beta posted yesterday for iOS, watchOS, and macOS. I have not seen any posts about iCloud Messages though.

Looks like we will have to wait until next year, and hopefully will see it in 11.3. At this point I would imagine that Apple development is trying to slow down and get to the holidays.
 
I don't understand what this even means.

From the linked Verge article:

Apple is bringing iMessage to its iCloud platform. The company announced during WWDC that in iOS 11, users will be able to sign in on any device and have all of their messages, thanks to iCloud integration.

Huh? I ALREADY see my iMessages on all devices. iPhone, iPad, two Macs.

Is this just about deleted messages being deleted everywhere? If so, and it doesn't now, I've never noticed that.

Or is it about logging-in to the iCloud website and being able to see your messages? I can't imagine why I would want to do that, though I guess it would be nice. I always have my iPhone, so I wouldn't be in a situation where I would need to log-in to iCloud for messages. (Unless lost/forgot/stolen phone.)

I just know that when I hear the "ding" I pick up whatever device is handy, and the message is there. I occasionally use my Mac to send links to friends, and when I open iMessage on my Mac all my messages are there.

What is the great hoopla that everybody is waiting for?
 
I don't understand what this even means.

From the linked Verge article:



Huh? I ALREADY see my iMessages on all devices. iPhone, iPad, two Macs.

Is this just about deleted messages being deleted everywhere? If so, and it doesn't now, I've never noticed that.

Or is it about logging-in to the iCloud website and being able to see your messages? I can't imagine why I would want to do that, though I guess it would be nice. I always have my iPhone, so I wouldn't be in a situation where I would need to log-in to iCloud for messages. (Unless lost/forgot/stolen phone.)

I just know that when I hear the "ding" I pick up whatever device is handy, and the message is there. I occasionally use my Mac to send links to friends, and when I open iMessage on my Mac all my messages are there.

What is the great hoopla that everybody is waiting for?
If you sign into iCloud on a new device or a restored device, do you have all of your messages there once you do that?
 
If you sign into iCloud on a new device or a restored device, do you have all of your messages there once you do that?

Yes, I do.

My iPhone X has messages going back to 12/2016.

But maybe that came from local backup? (I restored from my iPhone 7+ backup using iTunes.)
 
Yes, I do.

My iPhone X has messages going back to 12/2016.

But maybe that came from local backup? (I restored from my iPhone 7+ backup using iTunes.)
Sure, backup would bring back the messages that were backed up in it. With iMessage in iCloud the same conversations and messages would be in iCloud so that when you sign into iCloud on a device you would get the same messages that you would have on other devices basically (without the need to restore from a backup that would have those messages backed up).
 
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Yes, I do.

My iPhone X has messages going back to 12/2016.

But maybe that came from local backup? (I restored from my iPhone 7+ backup using iTunes.)

Yes C DM is right. It’s also useful when you set up an iPhone as new, but sign into iCloud on it, your mail, calendars, contacts, photos, basically everything transfers over except your iMessages. So iMessage for iCloud will be really useful for me because I update my iPhone every year and set it up as new, messages are the only thing I completely lose annually. Hopefully this year was the last time
 
Sure, backup would bring back the messages that were backed up in it. With iMessage in iCloud the same conversations and messages would be in iCloud so that when you sign into iCloud on a device you would get the same messages that you would have on other devices basically (without the need to restore from a backup that would have those messages backed up).
Exactly as messaged in iCloud were from an earlier beta before being removed
Messages did say your messages are being stored in iCloud or to that effect
 
Messages in iCloud will be a game changer honestly.

Yes currently it is possible to forward SMS and iMessages to other devices but it's not flawless. I've missed messages on other devices before, or they are out of order on other devices. In all reality out of order isn't a huge deal, but iCloud Messages is far superior since that shouldn't happen, along with the backup.
 
Since Apple can't go back on it and they didn't give a date, even if it's rough (spring 2018 say) I'd guess 'future update' means not anytime soon. I'm placing my best on iOS 12

Sadly I agree. If not with 11.3, then hopefully iOS 12. iOS 11.3 beta is no where in sight though, so I doubt we’ll see a final release before Feb at the earliest.
 
Apple said "future update" that really leaves the door wide open.
They specifically said "future update to iOS 11" which I understand would be before iOS 12.

Of course they could've changed their minds.
 
Apple screwed up here, big time. They bit off more than they could chew. A simple apology and explanation to us was all that was needed. That they haven’t even the dignity to do that says it all. I doubt we’ll ever see it.
 
Apple screwed up here, big time. They bit off more than they could chew. A simple apology and explanation to us was all that was needed. That they haven’t even the dignity to do that says it all. I doubt we’ll ever see it.
iOS 11 isn't done yet. Doesn't seem like anything has been screwed up, let alone big time, just yet.
 
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