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I've been starting to consider an upgrade to 11, I'm currently on 10.3.3 and my 2017 10.5 is working wonderfully. iOS 11.1.1 on my 8+ has improved since 11.0 but I'm still finding some strange behaviors with it. Looks like there's a mixed bag of those who say it's been good vs. those who aren't as sold on 11.1 yet. Out of curiosity, those of you who are using 11 with your iPads...how is the performance on your iPhone with 11? Same as iPad, better? Worse?
 
No issues so far on mine. What is the point of having a 'pro' ipad if you are not going to take advantage of multitasking and file access?

Hi Abiatha,

I've learned the hard way with the countless updates I've done to my Apple devices. Most updates were ok, but some rendered either iPads or iPhones virtually useless and I was unable to downgrade because Apple quit signing previous versions. Would I like the multitasking and file access?...sure, but at what cost? Planned adolescence is alive and well within Apple. Its 10.3.3 for me until my iPad Pro 10.5 is no longer working whatsoever, then I'll recycle it.
 
Hi Abiatha,

I've learned the hard way with the countless updates I've done to my Apple devices. Most updates were ok, but some rendered either iPads or iPhones virtually useless and I was unable to downgrade because Apple quit signing previous versions. Would I like the multitasking and file access?...sure, but at what cost? Planned adolescence is alive and well within Apple. Its 10.3.3 for me until my iPad Pro 10.5 is no longer working whatsoever, then I'll recycle it.
The term is planned “obsolescence”, not “adolescence”. And it’s a ridiculous accusation in this case (and in most cases, to be honest.) The new 12.9” and 10.5” iPad Pros that were showcased at WWDC this year were both running iOS 11. It was a major selling point for the new models and breathed new life into the original Pros. It is completely absurd to insinuate that they crippled them with software on purpose so you’ll upgrade to....what....new iPad Pros that haven’t been announced yet and probably won’t be announced for at least another 6-8 months?

Come on—let’s use our brains here before making such accusations. Apple doesn’t cripple hardware on purpose—they simply push iOS ahead and keep the features in the older models that they feel they can keep without degrading the experience in general. They know more about how these features will perform on older models over time than you do because they’re the ones testing things. And if you really think about it, if they kept all the features in there and they didn’t work right on your older iPads/iPhones, you’d be here complaining about THAT instead.
 
The term is planned “obsolescence”, not “adolescence”. And it’s a ridiculous accusation in this case (and in most cases, to be honest.) The new 12.9” and 10.5” iPad Pros that were showcased at WWDC this year were both running iOS 11. It was a major selling point for the new models and breathed new life into the original Pros. It is completely absurd to insinuate that they crippled them with software on purpose so you’ll upgrade to....what....new iPad Pros that haven’t been announced yet and probably won’t be announced for at least another 6-8 months?

Come on—let’s use our brains here before making such accusations. Apple doesn’t cripple hardware on purpose—they simply push iOS ahead and keep the features in the older models that they feel they can keep without degrading the experience in general. They know more about how these features will perform on older models over time than you do because they’re the ones testing things. And if you really think about it, if they kept all the features in there and they didn’t work right on your older iPads/iPhones, you’d be here complaining about THAT instead.

This.

And the 'virtually useless' comment is a massive over exaggeration.
 
The term is planned “obsolescence”, not “adolescence”. And it’s a ridiculous accusation in this case (and in most cases, to be honest.) The new 12.9” and 10.5” iPad Pros that were showcased at WWDC this year were both running iOS 11. It was a major selling point for the new models and breathed new life into the original Pros. It is completely absurd to insinuate that they crippled them with software on purpose so you’ll upgrade to....what....new iPad Pros that haven’t been announced yet and probably won’t be announced for at least another 6-8 months?

Come on—let’s use our brains here before making such accusations. Apple doesn’t cripple hardware on purpose—they simply push iOS ahead and keep the features in the older models that they feel they can keep without degrading the experience in general. They know more about how these features will perform on older models over time than you do because they’re the ones testing things. And if you really think about it, if they kept all the features in there and they didn’t work right on your older iPads/iPhones, you’d be here complaining about THAT instead.

Blame iOS for the typo....As for the rest..Its speculation on my part and yours.
 
I've been starting to consider an upgrade to 11, I'm currently on 10.3.3 and my 2017 10.5 is working wonderfully. iOS 11.1.1 on my 8+ has improved since 11.0 but I'm still finding some strange behaviors with it. Looks like there's a mixed bag of those who say it's been good vs. those who aren't as sold on 11.1 yet. Out of curiosity, those of you who are using 11 with your iPads...how is the performance on your iPhone with 11? Same as iPad, better? Worse?

As well as using iOS 11 on my iPad Pro 10.5! I’m also using it on my 6s. Whilst occasionally feeling a tad laggy (responding from an iMessage overlay atop the current app), it doesn’t bother me too much. Most of my phone use is for music and triaging mail and iMessage notifications so I’m not ever doing anything too compute intensive. CarPlay has been at least as good as it was under iOS 10 with the benefit of notification badges and the improvements to Siri.

For ‘like for like’ tasks, yes my iPad Pro beats my iPhone. However their use scenarios are very different. I might use my banking app together with Excel on my phone for budgeting in a pinch. My iPad however frequently gets Safari being used side by side with OneNote with music playing in the background, usage much closer to a desktop than my phone.

On balance, iOS 11 feels far more beneficial on my iPad Pro than it does on my phone, ergo I bought into the Pro earlier this year than spending the same money on a phone upgrade from my 6s. Wouldn’t be without 11 on either device though, and that’s with iMessage in iCloud still to come.
 
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It works fine with my iPad Pro 10,5, except for the battery draining faster - just as on my iPhone 6s. Quite frankly I would stick with iOS 10. Then you'll get noticeably better battery life, and the changes/upgrades in iOS 11 are negligible - the real-life improvement is near zero.
 
Running a 10.5 iPad Pro on iOS 10.x is like running a Porsche 911 no faster than walking speed.

11 is brilliant on the Pro 10.5
 
Come on—let’s use our brains here before making such accusations. Apple doesn’t cripple hardware on purpose—they simply push iOS ahead and keep the features in the older models that they feel they can keep without degrading the experience in general. They know more about how these features will perform on older models over time than you do because they’re the ones testing things. And if you really think about it, if they kept all the features in there and they didn’t work right on your older iPads/iPhones, you’d be here complaining about THAT instead.
You can pick one of the following:

- Planned obsolescence, considering that tablets aren't selling anywhere near the figures from years ago, and Apple wants to make more cash from future replacements, for all devices;

- iOS 11 needs to be perfected;

- Apps needing an overhaul, considering these reports:
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/11/13/youtube-ios-app-battery-drain-overheating-issues/

- And finally, all these companies need to address this little problem:

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-in-terms-of-battery-in-future-ipads.2082319/

Because it is quite clear to me that these batteries are not having the same improvements over the years... in fact it's the exact opposite, it seems nowadays you can't hold a single charge for up to the same hours...

If possible why not concentrate all efforts on the latter and then users won't complain their devices can't last for more than a very limited number of hours a day... of course we wouldn't want thicker and heavier devices if that's the goal, would we?
 
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