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I can confirm that the 1st gen 12.9 does support this configuration, but the split view apps are 'frozen' when the slide over app is active - I'm not sure if this is the case for all iPads? (this is in iOS 12)
Ipad 12.9 first gen behaves exactly like all 2GB ram devices (9.7 pro, mini 4, etc.) by freezing the split when the slide over is active, this while having 4GB RAM... 3GB devices support 3 at same time...
Sometimes I wonder what those 4GB RAM are there for? Does it refresh less often? Maybe... But my mini 5 seems to hold apps in RAM better than the 12.9....I haven't done serious tests for refreshes, it's just my impression so far.... Hopefully the IpadOS will improve things...
 
Ipad 12.9 first gen behaves exactly like all 2GB ram devices (9.7 pro, mini 4, etc.) by freezing the split when the slide over is active, this while having 4GB RAM... 3GB devices support 3 at same time...
Sometimes I wonder what those 4GB RAM are there for? Does it refresh less often? Maybe... But my mini 5 seems to hold apps in RAM better than the 12.9....I haven't done serious tests for refreshes, it's just my impression so far.... Hopefully the IpadOS will improve things...
Interesting. I do wonder why Apple did that. Not enough GPU performance to handle multiple active overlays?

I only have the 2016 Pro 9.7 and 2017 Pro 12.9. I get 3 apps active on the 2017. On the Pro 9.7, I rarely bother with 2-app split view/slide over much less 3. Display is just too small.

Lol, I still remember RAM proponents lambasting the 2GB Pro 9.7 and saying to go with the 2015 Pro 12.9 as it would support more multitasking features due to 4GB. If this is the case, that turned out to be rather useless. :p Granted, I do think 12.9 is way better for multitasking due to sheer size. :)
 
Interesting. I do wonder why Apple did that. Not enough GPU performance to handle multiple active overlays?

I only have the 2016 Pro 9.7 and 2017 Pro 12.9. I get 3 apps active on the 2017. On the Pro 9.7, I rarely bother with 2-app split view/slide over much less 3. Display is just too small.

Lol, I still remember RAM proponents lambasting the 2GB Pro 9.7 and saying to go with the 2015 Pro 12.9 as it would support more multitasking features due to 4GB. If this is the case, that turned out to be rather useless. :p Granted, I do think 12.9 is way better for multitasking due to sheer size. :)

I have both the 12.9 and 9.7 pro. GPU of the A9x is very powerful, my guess is another. I think that apple could not technically treat 2 A9X devices differently, so it had to treat it like the 9.7 pro, which does not have enough RAM. It's a shame.
 
Sometimes I wish I could open two instances of the same app at once and that’s about it.

I’m more worried about my 12.9 Gen 1 iPad Pro becoming slow and sluggish. Is that the case?
 
Sometimes I wish I could open two instances of the same app at once and that’s about it.

I’m more worried about my 12.9 Gen 1 iPad Pro becoming slow and sluggish. Is that the case?

If there is one device that will finish its life without any kind of performance degradation, this is the first gen 12.9. So far its RAM is, if anything, underutilized, and I do hope IOS will improve that. It will certainly be supported until IOS 15, hopefully IOS 16 and with 4GB of RAM and the optimization that Apple is showing there is zero chance of it lagging by then.
 
Sometimes I wish I could open two instances of the same app at once and that’s about it.
In ipados 13 you can. I opened two instances of safari side by side as well as Notes and Mail. I haven’t been able to do this with any non-Apple apps so I wonder if there is an API or something that needs to be leveraged to add this feature to an app.
 
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We love our 1st gen IPP 12.9s. They are a workhorse for us. iOS 11, however, was a disaster on it. Here’s to hoping iPadOS treats the old guys well...
 
Ipad 12.9 first gen behaves exactly like all 2GB ram devices (9.7 pro, mini 4, etc.) by freezing the split when the slide over is active, this while having 4GB RAM... 3GB devices support 3 at same time...
Sometimes I wonder what those 4GB RAM are there for? Does it refresh less often? Maybe... But my mini 5 seems to hold apps in RAM better than the 12.9....I haven't done serious tests for refreshes, it's just my impression so far.... Hopefully the IpadOS will improve things...
I'm a relatively light user of split screen and almost never use it with slide over so it's not an issue for my use case, it is interesting it's limited though as like you say I've never seen it so much as blink at anything that's been thrown at it to date - it's still a remarkably capable device for one 3 chipset generations behind the current gen!
 
I’m hearing rumors from folks that installed the iOS 13 developer beta that it actually feels faster than iOS 12... and it’s only the first beta. It seems after the disaster that was iOS 11 Apple is actually taking optimization seriously again. All the iPads that Apple is supporting are relatively powerful and I suspect they’ll all handle iOS 13 gracefully.

Completely agree. Running iOS13 now on my iPad 12.0m2015 A9X and it sure seems faster in terms of websites and apps loading. Very pleased so far.

I didn’t load it on my iPhone SE yet but am happy it is going to be supported.
 
Same here still rock solid and running great and not flimsy like the gen 3

My 11” iPad is as solid as a rock, nothing is perfect but they are very workable devices. When I first got one it was all mental, all of this bending stuff floating around. So, I acted and truly believed as if my iPad was made entirely of a fruit roll up. It could possibly melt, or bend by just laying on the table lol.

After I stopped caring about it, I realized it is strong enough and still perfectly straight.

My sons 2018 iPad 9.7” 6th gen actually has a very small bend to it. He might have put a knee to it a couple times. The screen is getting a lot of micro scratches, he is 6 years old so it sees some hard usage!

Anyways, only a thought as I’ve owned several of these 11” iPads. I’ll sell one in a heart beat if I’m not happy with it, or if I think something isn’t quite right. I cannot find any reason to really fault it. And now that iOS13 is here. I am honestly very happy I kept my current setup. I was getting a little frustrated with wanting to run a external monitor and use a mouse. Well things have certainly changed, and we can do that now.

I can say one thing from this. I am glad I bought my first iPad ever the 11” before even knowing of any bending issues existing. Because if I would have known about bending first and foremost, I might would have talked my self out of 3rd gen iPad pro’s. And I never would have owned one at all. It is funny how things work out.
 
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My guess is that the only machine that might seem annoyingly sluggish (by my standards) with iPadOS 13 is the iPad mini 4 with A8 (2015).

All other machines including my iPad Air 2 with A8X (2014) and the iPad with A9 (2017) will likely be pretty decent. Furthermore, my iPad Pro 10.5" with A10X (2017) will still feel downright fast.

Take a look at my performance and spec comparison table below:

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If app sizes are gonna be half the size, I might get away with my 32gb version that bit longer.

didn’t they say that downloads were smaller? I don’t remember them specifically saying that apps were smaller. I could be wrong.
 
My guess is that the only machine that might seem annoyingly sluggish (by my standards) with iPadOS 13 is the iPad mini 4 with A8 (2015).

All other machines including my iPad Air 2 with A8X (2014) and the iPad with A9 (2017) will likely be pretty decent. Furthermore, my iPad Pro 10.5" with A10X (2017) will still feel downright fast.

Take a look at my performance and spec comparison table below:

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Don't see why it would be - mine runs great on iOS 12 and performance seems to be at worst about the same on iOS 13... on developer beta 1. Mind you I don't really do any "heavy lifting" on my Mini 4, just some internet browsing, reading and the occasional video. Something tells me it will be fine, doesn't change that I kind of want a Mini 5 though.
 
Don't see why it would be - mine runs great on iOS 12 and performance seems to be at worst about the same on iOS 13... on developer beta 1. Mind you I don't really do any "heavy lifting" on my Mini 4, just some internet browsing, reading and the occasional video. Something tells me it will be fine, doesn't change that I kind of want a Mini 5 though.
Yeah YMMV. The mini 4 will undoubtedly work fine for light usage but it’s already showing its age nonetheless, even with iOS 12.

The iPad Air 2 is roughly 50% faster, and it shows.
 
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In ipados 13 you can. I opened two instances of safari side by side as well as Notes and Mail. I haven’t been able to do this with any non-Apple apps so I wonder if there is an API or something that needs to be leveraged to add this feature to an app.
I'm curious to know how the quick actions menu slots in - I guess you hold a little to pick up the icon for multitasking; a little bit longer for quick actions and longer still to enter 'wiggle mode' to rearrange the home screen?
 
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I'm curious to know how the quick actions menu slots in - I guess you hold a little to pick up the icon for multitasking; a little bit longer for quick actions and longer still to enter 'wiggle mode' to rearrange the home screen?
Pretty much.

Tap to open app
Tap and hold a bit longer then release to invoke the menu
Tap and hold then move finger to rearrange
Tap and hold for 3 seconds (yes, 3 seconds) to delete.

Not nearly as efficient as 3D Touch BUT it works. I guess Apple couldn’t get it to work on the iPad or it was going to be cost prohibitive. They got a ton of flak for the X line pricing. It just surpassed what people were comfortable paying for their pocket computers.
 
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Pretty much.

Tap to open app
Tap and hold a bit longer than release to invoke the menu
Tap and hold then move finger to rearrange
Tap and hold for 3 seconds (yes, 3 seconds) to delete.

Not nearly as efficient as 3D Touch BUT it works. I guess Apple couldn’t get it to work on the iPad or it was going to be cost prohibitive. They got a ton of flak for the X line pricing. It just surpassed what people were comfortable paying for their pocket computers.
Makes sense, though yeah that's a lot of holding! When you want to pop through the interface quickly I wonder if this is going to start feeling like a drag? I guess the lengthiest waits are for the things used least often though at least. I recall there was a patent for the screen detecting how hard you were pressing depending on how large an area of your finger was in contact with the display (where your finger flattens out against the screen as you press harder) - I wonder if this might eventually show up or if it was too unreliable?
 
I’m actually shocked that the A8 and not the A10 was the minimum requirement for iPadOS. Anyone else worried about their older devices becoming the iPad 2 and iPhone 4s on iOS 9?

I could see the A9(x) being ok, but the 5 year old A8 in my wife’s mini 4 worries me...I had both of the devices mentioned and they were HORRIBLE on iOS9.
I just tried my Friend's iPad Mini 4 on iPadOS for me, its still much faster than A5 Devices iPad on iOS 9. Also, its even better than iPad Mini 2/3 or Air on iOS 12. Both iPad Mini 4 and Air 2 is the next iPad Devices that didn't lag much on its current and latest OS just like the iPad 4 in iOS 10 witch didn't lag on its last Supported iOS. But yeah, i have an iPad 5th generation, its pretty weird that its a bit slower than iOS 12 when i compared it now in iPadOS.

As of the Moment, only A4 and A5 is the only iOS Device that become disaster on its last supported update. Poor Performance, terrible battery, etc.
Other phone like 3GS, and iPhone 5S (A7) and 6 is in between... the 5s is bit slower on iOS 12 vs iOS 7. But, Still Descent performance on iOS 12, and not as bad as iPhone 4/4S on iOS 7 and 9. Except its battery (it really suffers by a lot) The iPhone 6 runs slower than iPhone 5S in every iOS from 8-12 due to bigger screen (making the 6 ALMOST as Par as iPhone 4s in iOS 9. But the battery of 6 is much better than 5S. so they are both tie...

iPhone 5 and iPad 4 aged well..and its not really affected on every iOS Version and runs smooth on its last iOS 10 either. Just like the iPad mini 4 and iPad air 2 as of now..
 
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Could anyone with 1st gen (2015) iPad Pro 12.9 share the memory management on the latest iPadOS 13.4? Are split apps still frozen when slide over is active? Thanks

Ipad 12.9 first gen behaves exactly like all 2GB ram devices (9.7 pro, mini 4, etc.) by freezing the split when the slide over is active, this while having 4GB RAM... 3GB devices support 3 at same time...
 
yes, nothing has changed and I do not expect that to change in the future, I guess apple bases these things on the A9x chip and they will not make a difference between the 9.7 and the 12.9...
 
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