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gaiao

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Kies is finally working on mountain lion. Before using Kies I was using airDroid.
 

paulsalter

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Android syncing software on the mac is piss poor no matter who the manufacturer is. At least Samsung have Kies as poor as it is, HTC have yet to release their mac software for the One series....

Its like all the manufacturers and Google seem to think mac users only use iOS devices.

Google need to take charge and release standardised forward that syncs to ALL android based software handsets.

perhaps it is piss poor for you, i have perfect syncing between itunes & android

look for another app if the one you use is so bad
 

MRU

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perhaps it is piss poor for you, i have perfect syncing between itunes & android

look for another app if the one you use is so bad

I use double twist at moment, the fact is HTC don't even make one for the mac. If that's not piss poor support what is?
 

paulsalter

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I use double twist at moment, the fact is HTC don't even make one for the mac. If that's not piss poor support what is?

why do you need an app from HTC or Samsung or any particular manufacturer?

I have a Samsung but never even look at Kies

There are plenty of Android sync apps, like double twist, isyncr etc on the app store that do the syncing

My Media is all in iTunes, I dont need another app for this, just an easy way of syncing the media across to my phone
 

MRU

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why do you need an app from HTC or Samsung or any particular manufacturer?

I have a Samsung but never even look at Kies

There are plenty of Android sync apps, like double twist, isyncr etc on the app store that do the syncing

My Media is all in iTunes, I dont need another app for this, just an easy way of syncing the media across to my phone


My point is that if we have to go to a third party, wouldn't it be better for google themselves to offer a mac syncing solution that works for all devices.

Also for anyone new to Android the fact you get a phone, and then find that your manufacturer doesn't support the computer OS, if you had not heard of third party solutions who do you turn to? Google searches! Then it's a case of trying different ones, why not have Google just supply one period.

It's shouldn't be so messy. It's another example of Android Fragmentation not only in hardware but Software.
 

paulsalter

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My point is that if we have to go to a third party, wouldn't it be better for google themselves to offer a mac syncing solution that works for all devices.

Also for anyone new to Android the fact you get a phone, and then find that your manufacturer doesn't support the computer OS, if you had not heard of third party solutions who do you turn to? Google searches! Then it's a case of trying different ones, why not have Google just supply one period.

It's shouldn't be so messy. It's another example of Android Fragmentation not only in hardware but Software.

I agree that things should be so much simpler, but i woudn't just blame google for the whole thing

yes something, from google which allows easy sync to your device would be great, but not a media management app just one that syncs with software on your machine currently

IMO, the easiest solution would be for Apple to write an Android app for the syncing, even add in iCloud support
 

Vegastouch

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Jul 12, 2008
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Great, drag and drop will probably be sufficient for me, I was just wanted to know if there were any compatibility issues.

Shouldnt be any issues but you may have to install drivers for teh phone via Kies. It isnt hard and really it should come with the phone but mine didnt. It allows your computer to be seen as an external drive on your computer.

Maybe you wont have to but just saying if it doesnt get recognized at first, that is why. After that, it is simple to transfer things and there are several ways to do it without having to always use the crap Application known as iTunes. Actually using isyncer, it wont matter if you have those drivers installed or not.

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Guys be smart and use the cloud capabilities.

GOOGLE PLAY MUSIC.

  1. Get the music manager
  2. tell it where your music is
  3. get a cup of coffee and let it upload to cloud
  4. check on yoru phone and make what ever you want offline avaiable
  5. or just play what u want on phone and let it cache
  6. and Automagically everything is there

Also an option and i have all mine set up on Google play but i dont like to stream my music, Id rather play it off of my Micro SD card. Dont use any data that way and dont have to worry about a weak signal anywhere.

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So, I'm trying doubletwist, but my Air won't recognise my phone. It doesn't show up under 'devices' in the doubletwist desktop application (or anywhere else, for that matter). My phone, on the other hand, tells me that it is 'connected as a media device' after I plug in the USB.

:confused::confused: ??...

Use isyncr from the playstore. I dont recommend DoubleTwist though isyncr pro will cost a couple bucks. The free one works as well but it only transfers 20 songs at a time...not sure if that is per day either. I forget.

Dont use Kies for anything asside from installing drivers if needed. Kies sucks otherwise and there are easier methods.
 

jojoba

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Not sure what Alfred is

if you are going the WiFi route, just load iSyncr on your Mac, you dont need to do anything else with it, it just runs like a service so your Android can see iTunes (you should see an icon in the top menu bar for it)

Then run the iSycnr app on your phone, it should see the mac that has the client installed and then list all your playlists so you can pick which to sync

Excellent, this solved it! Thanks :)

Here is Alfred, I warmly recommend him

http://www.alfredapp.com
 

TheRealPorkchop

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Mar 13, 2010
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Can't be true... drag and drop an MP3 straight to a phone and it just be there and work... actually play? That's too simple, can't be possible... you mean you don't have to put it into your iTunes library, check it in the section for the phone by album or playlist, sync the phone and disconnect it... amazing.

Hmm, something actually simple... imagine that. Could that device secretly be made by Apple... I mean they're suppose to make the most simple and easy to use devices ever. Samsung actually more simple than iPhone... wow.:D:D:D
 

tbayrgs

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Jul 5, 2009
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Can't be true... drag and drop an MP3 straight to a phone and it just be there and work... actually play? That's too simple, can't be possible... you mean you don't have to put it into your iTunes library, check it in the section for the phone by album or playlist, sync the phone and disconnect it... amazing.

Hmm, something actually simple... imagine that. Could that device secretly be made by Apple... I mean they're suppose to make the most simple and easy to use devices ever. Samsung actually more simple than iPhone... wow.:D:D:D

Yup, that's much easier than syncing my music wirelessly via iTunes...:rolleyes:

You guys act like importing music into iTunes is such a difficult chore--apparently it's much easier than getting it onto an Android device from a Mac. Let's see, I can buy music via iTunes and I'm done--automatically synced to all my devices, even my Google Play library. Or I can rip a CD--again, automatically imported into iTunes and synced to all my iDevices. Or I can purchase it from a third party, drag it into iTunes and wow, again automatically synced to my devices. All of this without plugging a single device into my computer.

However, if I want to use an Android device with my Mac, I have to either jump through hoops with a third party app or I have to plug the device and manually drag everything onto the device.

You go ahead with that drag and drop method, seems MUCH easier...:rolleyes:
 

TheRealPorkchop

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Mar 13, 2010
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No, it's much easier if you have it sync wirelessly, agreed. But not all of us have everything set up to automatically sync like that, if I did, I'd have well over 100 artist on my phone. That rag won't hold that much music, so therefore I have to use iTunes to manually put it in there and I do think iTunes is a major PITA.

Well, maybe not if you buy ALL your music from iTunes but download a few thousand albums, most of which Cletus did the ripping on and has the ID tags screwed up, and all of a sudden you'll see that iTunes is a PITA. Yea, I know... stop pirating music... I will soon as the world gets along with each other or I die.

Maybe Apple will make a phone just knows what you want before you do, will get it or do it for you automatically and then you'll be like "Wow, I didn't know I needed or wanted that, thanks iPhone". It's just my opinion... it doesn't matter and shouldn't change yours.
 

Vegastouch

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Yup, that's much easier than syncing my music wirelessly via iTunes...:rolleyes:

You guys act like importing music into iTunes is such a difficult chore--apparently it's much easier than getting it onto an Android device from a Mac. Let's see, I can buy music via iTunes and I'm done--automatically synced to all my devices, even my Google Play library. Or I can rip a CD--again, automatically imported into iTunes and synced to all my iDevices. Or I can purchase it from a third party, drag it into iTunes and wow, again automatically synced to my devices. All of this without plugging a single device into my computer.

However, if I want to use an Android device with my Mac, I have to either jump through hoops with a third party app or I have to plug the device and manually drag everything onto the device.

You go ahead with that drag and drop method, seems MUCH easier...:rolleyes:

There are other ways. You can download music from Google music play right to your phone, download it from Amazon music right to your phone or you can use apps like isyncr and download them right to your phone or your entire iTunes library right to your phone or you can touch the back of somebody elses phone and get music, videos or photos from them, right to your phone.

Drag and drop is just one method from taking off a computer or from someplace else or transfer it from the internal card to the external card.

Is that enough options for you?
 

tbayrgs

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There are other ways. You can download music from Google music play right to your phone, download it from Amazon music right to your phone or you can use apps like isyncr and download them right to your phone or your entire iTunes library right to your phone or you can touch the back of somebody elses phone and get music, videos or photos from them, right to your phone.

Drag and drop is just one method from taking off a computer or from someplace else or transfer it from the internal card to the external card.

Is that enough options for you?

You're missing my point. Yes, I know there are all of these methods, just that none of that is as efficient as wirelessly syncing music using iTunes and iDevices.

- You can download music from Google music play right to your phone: can do the same with iTunes and it's now automatically synced to all my computers, iDevices of choice and my Google Play library. Not the case with Google Play.

- download it from Amazon music right to your phone: same process as Google Play

- you can use apps like isyncr and download them right to your phone or your entire iTunes library right to your phone: I'm using iSyncr now with my Nexus 7 and while it gets the job done, it's not efficient or elegant as just using iTunes.

- you can touch the back of somebody elses phone and get music, videos or photos from them, right to your phone.: doesn't really have anything to do with managing my music library but admittedly, a very cool feature, though limited to other users with NFC enabled Android devices.

I guess long story short, my point was I find managing my music via iTunes with my iDevices is easier than any method I've seen using an Android device.

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No, it's much easier if you have it sync wirelessly, agreed. But not all of us have everything set up to automatically sync like that, if I did, I'd have well over 100 artist on my phone. That rag won't hold that much music, so therefore I have to use iTunes to manually put it in there and I do think iTunes is a major PITA.

Well, maybe not if you buy ALL your music from iTunes but download a few thousand albums, most of which Cletus did the ripping on and has the ID tags screwed up, and all of a sudden you'll see that iTunes is a PITA. Yea, I know... stop pirating music... I will soon as the world gets along with each other or I die.

Maybe Apple will make a phone just knows what you want before you do, will get it or do it for you automatically and then you'll be like "Wow, I didn't know I needed or wanted that, thanks iPhone". It's just my opinion... it doesn't matter and shouldn't change yours.

Understood. I don't have an enormous library and I'm a bit anal retentive about my media organization so using iTunes for me is a breeze. I also recognize that Apple doesn't give you the options you have available to you when using Android but at the same time, I find their provided option very efficient and easy to use. Problem is when I move to Android, what was previously very simple for me is now a bit of a pain in the a$$. I have more than enough data available to me to I'm using Google Music to wirelessly stream music to my Android devices and either plug in/drag and drop to move video or iSyncr to do it wirelessly.
 

TheRealPorkchop

macrumors regular
Mar 13, 2010
100
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Whiteville, NC
Understood. I don't have an enormous library and I'm a bit anal retentive about my media organization so using iTunes for me is a breeze. I also recognize that Apple doesn't give you the options you have available to you when using Android but at the same time, I find their provided option very efficient and easy to use. Problem is when I move to Android, what was previously very simple for me is now a bit of a pain in the a$$. I have more than enough data available to me to I'm using Google Music to wirelessly stream music to my Android devices and either plug in/drag and drop to move video or iSyncr to do it wirelessly.

I agree on the anal retentive part, I'm pretty much the same way. And Hacker Joe giving those jacked up ID tags drives iTunes crazy, probably not really iTunes fault but more-so whoever ripped the music to start with. I spend a lot of my free time changing information within iTunes and using Tagr to fix albums so my stuff is organized correctly and neatly. It's just annoying sometimes that I have to thumb through all that music just to put a few albums on my phone. I'd like the drag-n-drop experience personally... I wish you could do it both ways on iPhone.

I don't know, overall I see a lot of good about the iPhone and about the Android phones too, both have good points and bad, in my opinion. I guess until each and every one of us can design and build our very own phone... none of us will be 100% happy and satisfied.
 

Vegastouch

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Jul 12, 2008
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You're missing my point. Yes, I know there are all of these methods, just that none of that is as efficient as wirelessly syncing music using iTunes and iDevices.

- You can download music from Google music play right to your phone: can do the same with iTunes and it's now automatically synced to all my computers, iDevices of choice and my Google Play library. Not the case with Google Play.

- download it from Amazon music right to your phone: same process as Google Play

- you can use apps like isyncr and download them right to your phone or your entire iTunes library right to your phone: I'm using iSyncr now with my Nexus 7 and while it gets the job done, it's not efficient or elegant as just using iTunes.

- you can touch the back of somebody elses phone and get music, videos or photos from them, right to your phone.: doesn't really have anything to do with managing my music library but admittedly, a very cool feature, though limited to other users with NFC enabled Android devices.

I guess long story short, my point was I find managing my music via iTunes with my iDevices is easier than any method I've seen using an Android device.



Anything you download to your phone from anything else gets automatically updated to your Google play. I got what your point was but big deal. There are more ways to do it on Android than using crap iTunes. Yes it is better than it was but it is still something that you must use for the iPhone, which i hate.

As for NFC, dont worry, once iPhone gets it , it will be the best invention Apple has made :rolleyes:
 

sentinelsx

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My point is that if we have to go to a third party, wouldn't it be better for google themselves to offer a mac syncing solution that works for all devices.

Also for anyone new to Android the fact you get a phone, and then find that your manufacturer doesn't support the computer OS, if you had not heard of third party solutions who do you turn to? Google searches! Then it's a case of trying different ones, why not have Google just supply one period.

It's shouldn't be so messy. It's another example of Android Fragmentation not only in hardware but Software.

Problem is iTunes is more like a google services competitor (music, content, cloud etc) and i doubt google wants to bake in sync functionality.

This is where the playstore comes in.

Just like google's maps, youtube, chrome, gmail do not come preloaded on the iPhone and you have to get it in the appstore.

The difference here is what you miss: Apple needs to make an official iTunes sync app for google play which they never will because apple is never big on creating multi-platform software.

Apple did make an iTunes port for PCs after all right?

Would you blame windows for not bundling a sync client for your iPhone?

Blaming google for apple philosophy is not going to make it happen.

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IMO, the easiest solution would be for Apple to write an Android app for the syncing, even add in iCloud support

That IS the real solution. All we need is an official app on play store from apple to allow android devices to sync to itunes.

Unless google is blocking apple's request to approve an app they did make, they haven't done anything wrong here.

Since when did google take responsibility for itunes, an apple product?
 

chagla

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Mar 21, 2008
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itunes music/video folders are stored in a folder. all you need to do DRAG-AND-DROP the folders on your Android phone. you don't need a special syncing software.

on windows systems, it's under my documents folder.

i should mention, you can actually use the android phone as a portable usb storage device. just like a flash drive.
 
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