Hell I have over 600 discs. It all depends on what format and what rate you rip at. I know people who have well over 3000 cd's ripped.
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Is my iTunes library too large?
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If he's got 125,000 songs, they sure as heck aren't in lossless people. I have around 370 CDs or so and that is around 4600 songs and takes up around 120Gigs in Apple Lossless format and a secondary converted library to sync songs to my iPod Touch in 256kbit AAC format and it takes up around 37GB. So that should give you some idea that yes indeed most if not all his songs are either MP3 and/or 128kbit AAC.
As for syncing, what part of iTunes don't you know how to use? You can tell it to 'sync' whatever you want to an AppleTV (all or none depending on its hard drive size and what you want). I don't sync ANYTHING to my AppleTV except photos (which requires a sync to use). I stream everything. It only has a 40GB hard drive so there's no point in syncing anything else, IMO. I leave my Mac running upstairs as a server (1.8GHz 7448 G4 Digital Audio) and it's not 'slow' at all here. Itunes comes up in a bout 7 seconds with that library size and scrolls quickly afterwards. I can hide it and use my iPod Touch to select music and it doesn't even pop up the interface unless I switch speakers/rooms (due to the fact that aspect is cheating using handicap type controls to access the speaker selector functions which normally can't be accessed remotely).
I see a separate sync option here for movies, podcasts, music, photos and tv shows. If you don't sync it, it will stream instead (save photos).
As for syncing, what part of iTunes don't you know how to use? You can tell it to 'sync' whatever you want to an AppleTV (all or none depending on its hard drive size and what you want). I don't sync ANYTHING to my AppleTV except photos (which requires a sync to use). I stream everything. It only has a 40GB hard drive so there's no point in syncing anything else, IMO. I leave my Mac running upstairs as a server (1.8GHz 7448 G4 Digital Audio) and it's not 'slow' at all here. Itunes comes up in a bout 7 seconds with that library size and scrolls quickly afterwards. I can hide it and use my iPod Touch to select music and it doesn't even pop up the interface unless I switch speakers/rooms (due to the fact that aspect is cheating using handicap type controls to access the speaker selector functions which normally can't be accessed remotely).
I see a separate sync option here for movies, podcasts, music, photos and tv shows. If you don't sync it, it will stream instead (save photos).
Here is my setup.
Windows 2003 server:
1 Mac Pro
1 Win Vista box (wifes)
Escient Fireball SE-80 Music player http://www.escient.com/
1 linksys gig router.
All of my lines are hard wired cat 5 to all my rooms, some have multipal ports
On the server I have all my music (no dvd's yet)
I have iTunes running on the Mac and Vista. The escient Fireball PC (http://www.escient.com/products/fbpc.html) is running on the Mac.
I can access any of the files on either of the machines and from my home theater.
It is a pretty simple setup and I have had zero problems. I can have all three systems running at the same time with no issues (yet)
Windows 2003 server:
1 Mac Pro
1 Win Vista box (wifes)
Escient Fireball SE-80 Music player http://www.escient.com/
1 linksys gig router.
All of my lines are hard wired cat 5 to all my rooms, some have multipal ports
On the server I have all my music (no dvd's yet)
I have iTunes running on the Mac and Vista. The escient Fireball PC (http://www.escient.com/products/fbpc.html) is running on the Mac.
I can access any of the files on either of the machines and from my home theater.
It is a pretty simple setup and I have had zero problems. I can have all three systems running at the same time with no issues (yet)
rhett7660, can you explain how your setup works?
Right now I have Itunes with a bunch of ripped cds, but they were ripped in AAC format. I'm assuming you ripped yours in Mp3 format? And then used Fireball-Pc to import the Itunes folder?
So if I reripped them in MP3 format and then point fireball-pc to their folder, will it work on the fireball device?
Thanks
Right now I have Itunes with a bunch of ripped cds, but they were ripped in AAC format. I'm assuming you ripped yours in Mp3 format? And then used Fireball-Pc to import the Itunes folder?
So if I reripped them in MP3 format and then point fireball-pc to their folder, will it work on the fireball device?
Thanks
Syncing a library between itunes and appleTV takes approx 10 minutes for me. I dont copy any of the content from my itunes to the TV, but just the huge database list slows everything down. And for those that asked, my music files are mostly mp3, avergeing around 192 kbps. Movies are approx 1200 kbps average. I store all my files on a freenas box in the closet running 8 1tb hard drisks off of a raid 5 card. effective NAS drive size is approx 6.4 gb.
No importing into iTunes. I don't use iTunes with my fireball. The fireball has it's own software for bringing in the songs.
Since I last posted this, I have since moved away from the Fireball since I got rid of the wifes computer.
I still have the server but now I have it running iTunes and have the Apple TV streaming from the server. I don't do videos (yet) this is just for music and music only.
The fireball system was great. No complaints. When it was on my xp machine it was flawless. When I moved it to the vista machine it was horrible. It also doesn't like server 2003 very well either. I had it on the server for a while and I was getting crashes left and right. It did work, it just wasn't very stable.
Since moving to the Apple TV (just this past week) I have not seen or heard any drops in the music. Keep in mind my system is all hard wired I do not have any wireless.
20GB. I have the opposite situation. 450 GB of Podcasts and Video (30 GB is Podcasts) and 20 GB of music. Performance is fine since the number of total files is probably much less than your collection.
Well since my last post, my library has swelled. I am closing in on 600 gigs of movies and my music collection is also growing. I moved my iTunes folder to my server now not on my main machine. The only lag I really see is if I use cover flow or the grid layout. I now have it setup just showing the songs with no art work. On my Apple TV I haven't seen a hick up yet. Granted some of the artwork comes in a little slow. I have also gone through and re-did a lot of my cover art. Used 300x300 and kept the files under 25k. This seems to help a lot.
Holy fookin' sheet!
450 gigs of music?! Damn dude! Now the 20GB of video is reasonable. I have a little more than that in my library. How about some more math...
125,000 songs * 3min/song = 375,000 minutes.
3,000 movies * 100 min/movie = 300,000 minutes.
2,000 TV shows * (20 or 40) avg 30 min/show = 60,000 minutes.
Grand total is 735,000 minutes, or 12,250 hours, or 510 days. Yikes, hope you have a lot of free time.
Although, I must have had an extra 6 minutes in my day to write that... meh
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I brought my MacPro (4TB) just to help me out with my large CD and DVD collection. I'm not in the music or the movie business but I still have a decent amount of product.
After 20 years of buying an average of only 1 CD a week a person could have 1,040 CDs, I have about 1,500 all ripped to my iTunes. Now most of my CDs were purchased from Pawn shops and Flea markets so I almost never pay more than $5 and in many cases I got 10 for $30. One time an entire collection in an album of 200 CDs (no case or booklets) for $100. Sold or gave away the stuff I wasn't interested in.
My DVD collection is in the thousands. I started collecting when the first came out and in the beginning there were great bargins on the net. I know I have over 500 movies ripped and I have no idea of how many TV seasons.
What I'm trying to say to those who can't imagine anyone having a huge collection without stealing is false. Some people smoke a pack a cigs a day. That adds up but do you think they are stealing them? Some people eat out once a week or go to the theatre or buy cloths/shoes, have kids....you spend money a drop at a time and most of us don't keep track. I know a DJ who gets CDs sent to him. His collection takes up his entire basement and it looks wonderful, to me.
Try to control your envy.
I brought my MacPro (4TB) just to help me out with my large CD and DVD collection. I'm not in the music or the movie business but I still have a decent amount of product.
After 20 years of buying an average of only 1 CD a week a person could have 1,040 CDs, I have about 1,500 all ripped to my iTunes. Now most of my CDs were purchased from Pawn shops and Flea markets so I almost never pay more than $5 and in many cases I got 10 for $30. One time an entire collection in an album of 200 CDs (no case or booklets) for $100. Sold or gave away the stuff I wasn't interested in.
My DVD collection is in the thousands. I started collecting when the first came out and in the beginning there were great bargins on the net. I know I have over 500 movies ripped and I have no idea of how many TV seasons.
What I'm trying to say to those who can't imagine anyone having a huge collection without stealing is false. Some people smoke a pack a cigs a day. That adds up but do you think they are stealing them? Some people eat out once a week or go to the theatre or buy cloths/shoes, have kids....you spend money a drop at a time and most of us don't keep track. I know a DJ who gets CDs sent to him. His collection takes up his entire basement and it looks wonderful, to me.
Try to control your envy.
... My local rental place doesn't even have that many! Very nice indeed. must....control...envy....
I wouldn't say your Apple TV is "worthless" while synching. The second you choose to watch a video or perform some other operation, synching stops and lets you do what you want.
I have my Apple TV set to stream everything, but even streaming requires a sync, otherwise how is the Apple TV supposed to populate with the list and artwork and descriptions of everything you're potentially going to be selecting to stream? You can't stop that "sync" or the Apple TV will be useless since it won't know what you have in iTunes. Mine takes quite a while, and is a pain. Then again, mine probably takes longer because my videos are on my network, not directly connected to my MBP. *shrug*
Doesn't the sync simply communicate the deltas, not the entire libraries metadata every time? That seems like a design mistake, if not.
I'm not sure how it does it, but everytime it does, it takes minutes at the least. Same thing if I watch an episode. If I don't start another episode of a TV show right away, iTunes and the Apple TV will lock up in order to communicate that the episode in question is no longer "new". It's obnoxious to say the least.
It's not always envy. For me, it comes down to having so much material, that I could never even listen to or watch most of it in even a two-year period, if I spent 12 hours a day doing only that. I just don't see the point in having THAT MUCH material. You will never, ever use most of it. I guess if you really need to have every single option available to you at any given time, then whatever.
A friend of mine a while back asked every single person we worked with if he could copy their music library. He didn't care what music was in it, as long as he had the biggest library.
I didn't envy him, I thought he was in idiot. But to each their own I guess.
I in no way plan to put all of my DVDs on my computer. I do have plenty of stuff to keep my nieces busy and my friends but I do draw the line before 'High School Musicals' but I do have 'Sky High'. I didn't copy any of the 'Spy Kids' but I do have all 3 'From Dusk Till Dawn', 'Resident Evil', 'Jurassic Park', 'Starship Troopers'. I have the entire 4 years of Farscape, 10 years of Stargate, 9 years of X-Files, 5 years of Babylon 5 and their movies, Firefly, Roswell, Invader Zim, 4 years of Stargate Atlantis. I have about 30 Disney movies just because they look so beautiful. I've seen Bambi at least 10 times and even though I don't think I'll ever need to see Scamps Adventure again it just had to be there with Lady and the Tramp.
I do find it funny that I just had to have Star Trek OS in DVD but have no desire to put them on my computer. I must have seen every one of the shows 20 times over the years.
Things I plan to load over 2009, Scrubs, Charmed, Supernatural, Angel, Buffy, Roar, Space Above & Beyond, Earth 2, American Gothic, Alien Nation and maybe Battlestar G (2005).
I do find it funny that I just had to have Star Trek OS in DVD but have no desire to put them on my computer. I must have seen every one of the shows 20 times over the years.
Things I plan to load over 2009, Scrubs, Charmed, Supernatural, Angel, Buffy, Roar, Space Above & Beyond, Earth 2, American Gothic, Alien Nation and maybe Battlestar G (2005).