To be honest, not before Black Friday at the earliest (and even then I see $299 more likely, but $269 is not impossible). I know some people don't like selling, but honestly you could get quite a bit more than the $80 trade-in if you sell the 7th gen yourself (but again I can understand some people prefer to get less rather than going through the hassle of selling).Thanks for the advice. It's a tough call. Do you see the 10th gen getting down to $269 on sale with $80 more off that for trading in a 7th?