iPhone X Is the Thousand dollar price of X justified based on new Tech?

[Ralfi]

Let me say again that I am not looking to justify my purchase of the X. I am looking to understand weather as a community we believe that the new tech and options of the X, justify the price increase, considering what apple has released in the past which did not drive the price of previous phones to 1000 dollars.

Last year...maybe.

This year...no. ie. 2018's 5.8" iPhone shouldn't cost as much as the X did last year.

My main concern was the pattern a successful selling iPhone X would herald. Let's hope that this year's Plus model replaces 2017's X price point & the 5.8" model drops in price.

 

[44267547]

Last year...maybe.

This year...no. ie. 2018's 5.8" iPhone shouldn't cost as much as the X did last year.

My main concern was the pattern a successful selling iPhone X would herald. Let's hope the this year's Plus model replaces 2017's X price point & the 5.8" model drops in price.

I don’t agree with your logic. The iPhone 6.5 X Plus will likely increase at a higher price point with a starting price around $1200. Apple will likely either do one of two things with the current 5.8 iPhone X:

1.) Drop the price point of the current 5.8 X, introduce a new 5.8 X at the same starting price of $999.00, along with the introduction of iPhone 6 .5 X at approximately $1200.00

Or

2.) Discontinue the current 5.8 X, and introduce a new 6.1 LCD, 5.8/ 6.5 iPhone X as the three models available.

 

[Falhófnir]

Last year...maybe.

This year...no. ie. 2018's 5.8" iPhone shouldn't cost as much as the X did last year.

My main concern was the pattern a successful selling iPhone X would herald. Let's hope the this year's Plus model replaces 2017's X price point & the 5.8" model drops in price.

I also think this is the route Apple will go, the "XI+" will start at 999, the "XI" will drop somewhat in price. The thing is, the much hyped and heavily advertised "10th anniversary iPhone" seems to have undershot expectations somewhat. It wasn't a flop by any means, but it seems significantly fewer people than expected (29M vs consensus expectations of 32-35M) were tempted to get the X in the end. Taking into consideration an XI that is much the same as the X is going to be a considerably harder sell, I think Apple will be looking to tempt more people over.

 

[kazmac]

No. Because none of those things interest me and I am not a power user.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I also think this is the route Apple will go, the "XI+" will start at 999, the "XI" will drop somewhat in price. The thing is, the much hyped and heavily advertised "10th anniversary iPhone" seems to have undershot expectations somewhat. It wasn't a flop by any means, but it seems significantly fewer people than expected (29M vs consensus expectations of 32-35M) were tempted to get the X in the end. Taking into consideration an XI that is much the same as the X is going to be a considerably harder sell, I think Apple will be looking to tempt more people over.

I still think Apple were testing the market with the X somewhat. Using it to see if a £1k iPhone was popular enough to become the new standard, the norm. What they’ve found is it’s popular enough at the niche end but not enough to become mainstream. I will be interested to see if the price comes down a little and if the rumoured Plus becomes the new flagship.

The 6.1” LCD is the confusing part as rumours suggest it’s going to be very stripped down to what we are used to. If Apple keep prices high and expect a stripped down feature poor iPhone to satisfy the mainstream iPhone user, I think we’ll see a boom in demand for older devices like we saw with the 6S and 7 last October.

 

[russelljg]

Perhaps the X was just a ‘branch’ from the main line 6,7,8....9, testing new functionality, form, price points. If it turns out not to be successful (as determined by Apple) then leave it as an ‘anniversary’ one off and then continue down the main line with the iPhone 9,10 etc.

 

[Raist3001]

I also think this is the route Apple will go, the "XI+" will start at 999, the "XI" will drop somewhat in price. The thing is, the much hyped and heavily advertised "10th anniversary iPhone" seems to have undershot expectations somewhat. It wasn't a flop by any means, but it seems significantly fewer people than expected (29M vs consensus expectations of 32-35M) were tempted to get the X in the end. Taking into consideration an XI that is much the same as the X is going to be a considerably harder sell, I think Apple will be looking to tempt more people over.

I am hoping apple goes this route. $999 should be the starting point for the X+ with $1200 driving the 256GB model. If $999 was hard to swallow for the X, imagine the X+ (64GB or maybe 128GB) starting at $1200.

 

[Falhófnir]

I am hoping apple goes this route. $999 should be the starting point for the X+ with $1200 driving the 256GB model. If $999 was hard to swallow for the X, imagine the X+ (64GB or maybe 128GB) starting at $1200.

I think more than anything, the larger size will be the most compelling 'feature' of the new generation of phones. They're going to need something like that to make even the Apple loyal think an XI is worth upgrading to from a X at that price.

 

[44267547]

I think more than anything, the larger size will be the most compelling 'feature' of the new generation of phones. They're going to need something like that to make even the Apple loyal think an XI is worth upgrading to from a X at that price.

Some consumers won’t care about “Compelling” features in order to justify their upgrade. With Carrier incentives and installed monthly payments, I still think you’re going to have those two will try to justify the price point of the more expensive iPhone by thinking it’s just XYZ dollars a month versus paying the amount in full, Which it’s gateway to purchase the most expensive iPhone no matter what . However, there Those who are conscious about how they spend their money and asked themselves do they really need a more expensive iPhone versus one they have now, are the ones who will be more speculative.

 

[Raist3001]

Those who are conscious about how they spend their money and asked themselves do they really need a more expensive iPhone versus one they have now, are the ones who will be more speculative.

Yep....I know I want the plus model. So I will be upgrading this year.

 

[44267547]

Yep....I know I want the plus model. So I will be upgrading this year.

I honestly think 2018 will be a bigger year for the iPhone X then 2017 was. Not just because it will be more models available, but because there are those who are truly waiting to see what the iPhone X was all about and what was the initial feedback. If Apple offers more of a competitive/affordable price point between the three rumored models, this could be exactly fuels iPhone X to flourish more.

 

[Raist3001]

I honestly think 2018 will be a bigger year for the iPhone X then 2017 was. Not just because it will be more models available, but because there are those who are truly waiting to see what the iPhone X was all about and what was the initial feedback. If Apple offers more of a competitive price point, this could be exactly fuels iPhone X to flourish more.

I agree. I believe Apple needs to price competitively this time around for the new model to flourish. Other than the plus model, what would be a good reason to upgrade to the new X if all I got was a spec bump over the old X?

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I honestly think 2018 will be a bigger year for the iPhone X then 2017 was. Not just because it will be more models available, but because there are those who are truly waiting to see what the iPhone X was all about and what was the initial feedback. If Apple offers more of a competitive/affordable price point between the three rumored models, this could be exactly fuels iPhone X to flourish more.

I’m interested to see how well it sells now the initial buzz has subsided. I know from my circles most people are due for upgrades between August and November so that’ll be in time for the next releases. Historically that’s when the biggest spike in sales is here. I do think as long as there are cheaper iPhones, the average consumer will see the premium as a disadvantage somewhat. Nearly all my friends, family and colleagues use iPhones, but I don’t know many that could hold an in-depth conversation about one lol. I’ll be interested to see if anybody I know gets an X this time around.

 

[ET iPhone Home]

We all know what the X costs. Many folks do not see the price tag worthy of the X. I don't wish to debate why one feels its not worth the price tag. I am looking to discuss the new tech released and weather or not this was worth the price increase over previous phones.

With the X we got an OLED display, FaceID, True depth camera, Wireless charging.

Do you feel this new tech is worth the price increase. Considering what apple has released in the past...Better LCD screens, higher resolutions, TouchID, 3D touch, better camera......none of which drove the price to a thousand dollars. Is it the OLED display that is the main culprit? The true depth camera?

EDIT:
I am not looking to debate the justification of a purchase. That is not the point of this thread.

Firstly, it's whether, not weather.

The only good thing with the X is a redesign. Is it worth a thousand dollars - nope!

 

[Raist3001]

Firstly, it's whether, not weather.

Awesome, thanks for the correction

 

[Raist3001]

I do think as long as there are cheaper iPhones, the average consumer will see the premium as a disadvantage somewhat.

That's an interesting thought. I am not expecting any redesign, so what will the 2018 phones offer other than spec bumps? Those who did not buy the X in 2017 may be more apt to purchase the less expensive phones available.