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Huntn

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Well, honestly 11.6.1 still contains a lot of bugs you'll encounter regularly if you use it for more than e.g. just some websurfing and messaging.
But they're now more on the minor side of things and don't really tend to mess up your daily digital life anymore.

From my experience, 11.6.1 is surely a lot more stable than the latest Catalina built (which is now the oldest macOS version still supported with security fixes).
And although not directly tested on my machines, I'm very confident it is a lot more stable than the early Monterey releases which still suffer from a huge amount of various bugs - and will doubtlessly stay in such condition for at least some major dot revisions, as can be told from experience with the last three releases.

So - yes, in terms of stability and maturity, Big Sur seems to be the best macOS version currently out there.
The only upgrade path I see via Apple (System Preferences) is Monterey. Can you point me at a Big Sur install?
 

Queen6

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The only upgrade path I see via Apple (System Preferences) is Monterey. Can you point me at a Big Sur install?
Try;
You should be able to DL Big Sur and update directly, the USB installer is for those who need to downgrade macOS

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Today I had serious troubles when trying to restore an iPad. It downloaded iOS 15.1 but then gave me error when it was going to install. Not sure if it was a problem with the USBs on my mac (maybe they’re a bit damaged), or the cable (it’s old) or if it was a Big Sur issue.

Luckily, after many tries, changing to other ports, I finally made it.
 
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Huntn

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Try;
You should be able to DL Big Sur and update directly, the USB installer is for those who need to downgrade macOS

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I said the hell with it this morning, ran disk repair, downloaded Onyx and ran it’s maintenance profile and then told my MBP to install Monterey. Forty or so minutes later, I have a new OS and a smonth transition. There was no option I saw to do a clean install.

And this was a much better than when I upgaded this computer to Catalina, where it took multiple attempts, I ended up with extra mystery partitions and I had to troubleshoot myself how to get the upgrade to successfully complete! :oops:
 
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Huntn

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Well - why? :eek:
Thought you were about to install the latest Big Sur release (11.6.1). Now on the very wobbly early Monterey instead - not much gain if you ask me.
I’m lazy, I did not want to do 11 and then turn around and do 12, and 12 was staring me in the face. I don‘t really tax my MBP with more than word processing and browsing. So far no issues. 🤔
 
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TheGeneralist

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(…)I don‘t really tax my MBP with more that word processing and browsing(…)
Ah, I see - minimal use case 😉
People who don’t depend so much on all the bells and whistles offered by an OS usually do not have as many issues with the early release numbers as others - who use more of the features - usually do.
Crossing my fingers that everything will work nicely and smoothly for you.
 
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Queen6

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I said the hell with it this morning, ran disk repair, downloaded Onyx and ran it’s maintenance profile and then told my MBP to install Monterey. Forty or so minutes later, I have a new OS and a smonth transition. There was no option I saw to do a clean install.

And this was a much better than when I upgaded this computer to Catalina, where it took multiple attempts, I ended up with extra mystery partitions and I had to troubleshoot myself how to get the upgrade to successfully complete! :oops:
Monterey is too new for my liking so have held off. Never had much if any issue with OS upgrades even with my ill fated 2011 15" which has never been clean installed (High Sierra 10.13.6). Admittedly took a lot of cleaning up after my eldest did her best to turn it into a PlayStation LOL.

Onyx is a very solid application and can set a lot of wrongs right :) If wanting a clean install just create a bootable external wipe the internal drive and install from there. I'll likely move the M1 MBP to Monterey after the dust has settled. Similar I'll just run Onyx on Big Sur, upgrade to Monterey via Apple's SW update then run Onyx again a week or so later to clean up the OS.

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Huntn

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Monterey is too new for my liking so have held off. Never had much if any issue with OS upgrades even with my ill fated 2011 15" which has never been clean installed (High Sierra 10.13.6). Admittedly took a lot of cleaning up after my eldest did her best to turn it into a PlayStation LOL.

Onyx is a very solid application and can set a lot of wrongs right :) If wanting a clean install just create a bootable external wipe the internal drive and install from there. I'll likely move the M1 MBP to Monterey after the dust has settled. Similar I'll just run Onyx on Big Sur, upgrade to Monterey via Apple's SW update then run Onyx again a week or so later to clean up the OS.

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On the topic of cleaning out left overs from deleted programs, is there a non-subscription based Mac program that does this, does Onyx? I looked over their info and I’ve not found out if this is a feature for it.
 
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TheGeneralist

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On the topic of cleaning out left overs from deleted programs, is their a non-subscription based Mac program that does this, does Onyx? I looked over their info and I’ve not found out if this is a feature for it.
For this purpose, I'd strongly recommend AppCleaner.
Installation can be performed via homebrew or simply by downloading the app from developer's page: freemacsoft AppCleaner
Very ease to use - just drag'n'drop apps from the Applications folder to the app screen and hit OK, AppCleaner takes care about the rest.
 
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Queen6

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For this purpose, I'd strongly recommend AppCleaner.
Installation can be performed via homebrew or simply by downloading the app from developer's page: freemacsoft AppCleaner
Very ease to use - just drag'n'drop apps from the Applications folder to the app screen and hit OK, AppCleaner takes care about the rest.
@Huntn AppCleaner is great at removing all aspects of applications, however it is not capable of cleaning up remnants of previously removed SW. What I'd do is install Cleanmymac X clean up the system then uninstall via AppCleaner. I know it's cheating, equally paying a premium price for such a low use application makes little sense...

Cleanmymac X will find a few more needless files versus Onyx, nothing dramatic and certainly not worth the annual premium. All it found over Onyx was a couple of old Safari plugins (2014 13" MBP & 2015 12" rMB) Did a good job, yet needs to be priced far more sensibly.

FWIW Find Any File is worth it's weight in gold if your familiar with OSX as it will find all unwanted debris and was a major contributor in reviving my 15" 2011 MBP. This app digs deep so be careful what you hard delete, equally well recommended...

OSX doesn't accumulate too much "dust" however it doesn't hurt to clean out the OS from time to time :)

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