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CLOD-HOPPER

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Hello, techies. Recently, I re-installed Photoshop CS6 app, and actually managed to validate it and get it to run, thanks to someone on this forum that is more clued up than I am. However, the installer disc only installs version 13.0, whereas there is a potential for a version 13.0.6. In former times, one only needed to click (in Photoshop) "Help" > Updates, and the update to 13.0.6 would be downloaded and applied, automatically. Not any more! When the (presumed) download has completed, Adobe Application Manager displays a message that says, "The updates cannot be applied." No doubt, this is because Photoshop CS6 is ancient, and not worth the expense it would incur for Adobe.

I went on the Web, and found what seems to be a perfectly genuine updater to 13.0.6, but when I run it, it, too says that the updates cannot be applied, or words to that effect.

I was wondering whether anyone could provide (say) a Terminal command that would make it possible to apply the updates (to Adobe Bridge etc., as well as Photoshop — they apply to the entire Photoshop suite). There was a similar difficulty in getting a very useful add-on to work with Photoshop CS6. It's called GuideGuide, and, after applying a Terminal command (which I found somewhere on the Web), it works fine. So maybe some clever fella or gal could provide a Terminal cure (or some other cure) for the 13.0.6 updater.

If that is the case, I should be very grateful to be advised of it!

With thanks in hopeful anticipation,
Clod Hopper
 

CLOD-HOPPER

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Try this over at the Adobe forums.
Thanks for the link, LinMac, but it is just the same as the one I had tried (unsuccessfully, of course) in the past. It just says, when double-clicked, that this cannot be applied (or words to that effect).
C.H.
 

LinMac

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Have you tried to completely remove the version you have installed with something like AppCleaner and reinstall using the resources at the Adobe link? The version they offer at the Adobe FTP might be somehow different from what you have installed somewhere. The official files are very easy to access so it seems like a reasonable place to start
 

CLOD-HOPPER

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Have you tried to completely remove the version you have installed with something like AppCleaner and reinstall using the resources at the Adobe link? The version they offer at the Adobe FTP might be somehow different from what you have installed somewhere. The official files are very easy to access so it seems like a reasonable place to start
LinMac. I completely removed the app etc. Not only that, but Photoshop was installed in a pristine installation of High Sierra (on a different partition from the old installation of P.S.). Ah well, the upgrade was desirable, but not such a big thing as to get upset over not having. However, thanks for trying to help.
C.H.
 

LinMac

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I think the details at that link further down are what you might need. Scroll ALL the way to the bottom of the page I linked to. Read the post where the moderator removed all the links. This might be the Archive.org Library they were talking about.
 

CLOD-HOPPER

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LinMac,
I think the details at that link further down are what you might need. Scroll ALL the way to the bottom of the page I linked to. Read the post where the moderator removed all the links. This might be the Archive.org Library they were talking about.
LinMac, the removal of the links was a wonderful irony, wasn't it? However, Archive.org is not functioning any more. It was also called the Wayback Machine, which I used a lot, years ago. They are in legal/financial trouble, and it is a waste of time to try to obtain anything from there, now. Unfortunately, I am forced to conclude that this thread is closed. Thanks for your input.
C.H.
 

LinMac

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It looks like the same user posted the contents again and the downloads work. The Virustotal site scans one of the downloads here and it seems fine. Your mileage may vary, but yes, it's very annoying for them to make you jump through hoops.
 

CLOD-HOPPER

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It looks like the same user posted the contents again and the downloads work. The Virustotal site scans one of the downloads here and it seems fine. Your mileage may vary, but yes, it's very annoying for them to make you jump through hoops.
LinMac, I'm sorry, but IF your remarks are intended for me, I simply don't understand, being rather a simple feller. I went to the website via the link you kindly provided, and saw a lot of stuff about the 6.2 Application Manager, which I believe is what is needed. However, I see nothing whatever that invites anyone to download it. If you can do so in simple terms, please explain how to download it! Thanks.
C.H.
 

LinMac

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Click the link here and scroll down. You'll see "Installation directions --". Those seem to be what is on the Adobe forum too. Just do what it says step by step and it should work going by what the Adobe forums said. The download link is literally " Mac AAM 6.2 link" on the page.

If you're looking for the download to this "Install Fireworks CS6", I think that is the "File 1 of 1" under Mac OS X.
 

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Click the link here and scroll down. You'll see "Installation directions --". Those seem to be what is on the Adobe forum too. Just do what it says step by step and it should work going by what the Adobe forums said. The download link is literally " Mac AAM 6.2 link" on the page.

If you're looking for the download to this "Install Fireworks CS6", I think that is the "File 1 of 1" under Mac OS X.
LinMac, I don't know, now, whether you are just having fun at my expense, or not. Your comments etc. seem genuine enough, but they don't lead anywhere. I clicked the link you give (above in this panel), and Safari was "unable to open the page". As I have said before, anyway, Archive.org (Wayback machine etc.) is not functioning any more. With regard to the virus scan report website, there is indeed a report on the AAAM 6.2, but no way of downloading the file — not even if one signs up, as I naively did. It seems to be very similar to hunting the Snark.
C.H.
 

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This is the non-working one: https://archive.org/details/adobe-design-standard-cs6

This seems to be the working one: https://archive.org/details/adobe-fireworks-cs6-v12_20221114

They look the same, but see the URL is very different? Don't get them mixed up. Try the working one with the longer URL. They are both posted by the same user. It looks like he just reposted it to the longer URL when it got removed.
LinMac, this is where it seems that one reaches the end of the line. I clicked on the "adobe-fireworks.cs6", but, once again, the server could not open the file. Thanks for all your patient explanations.

With kind regards,
Clod-Hopper
 

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I clicked the link you give (above in this panel), and Safari was "unable to open the page". As I have said before, anyway, Archive.org (Wayback machine etc.) is not functioning any more.

Sorry if I'm misunderstanding. I don't know anything about updating CS6, but have no problems accessing archive.org or the wayback machine. I have no idea if it's what you need, but that link works fine for me although I didn't actually download anything. Seems like something else might be going on with your browser or internet connection that needs troubleshooting. This is what I see at that link.

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Sorry if I'm misunderstanding. I don't know anything about updating CS6, but have no problems accessing archive.org or the wayback machine. I have no idea if it's what you need, but that link works fine for me although I didn't actually download anything. Seems like something else might be going on with your browser or internet connection that needs troubleshooting. This is what I see at that link.

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Hey, Boyd01, that's worth being told about, for sure. If you have followed this thread, you may be aware that I am running High Sierra on a very old iMac, so it is quite conceivable that with some websites, Safari may not work. I shall boot up elsewhere when I get the time to do so, and see what happens. Thanks very much for pointing out the above.
Best,
Clod-Hopper
 
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you may be aware that I am running High Sierra on a very old iMac, so it is quite conceivable that with some websites, Safari may not work.

Sorry, I missed that detail. But yeah, that's likely the problem. You'll find a lot of websites that don't work with software so old, unfortunately.
 

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Well, thanks for that, bogdanw, but I do also have Maxthon and Brave browsers, and neither of these will give me the website I look for. Since my reply to Boyd01, earlier today, I booted up in Monterey (installed using Open Core Legacy Patcher, but it seems to be working fine). I opened Safari in Monterey, also Maxthon, and neither of these (quite modern browsers) could open the link. A message keeps coming up about a certificate, or a failure to gain a secure connection. The bottom line is that they don't open the link. How is it that Boyd01 can open it, and I can't? I even adjusted my firewall setting, to try to accommodate it.
C.H.
 

LinMac

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It is unlikely to be the firewall unless it's a network level device or filter of some kind.

Open Terminal and type the following:

ping archive.org

What does that do?
 

CLOD-HOPPER

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It is unlikely to be the firewall unless it's a network level device or filter of some kind.

Open Terminal and type the following:

ping archive.org

What does that do?
LinMac, I'm sorry about the delay. Sometimes, circumstances keep me away from the computer. There is a screenshot uploaded at your request. At the time of taking the shot, Terminal was still adding to that long list!

However, there is more to tell. Yesterday, I asked a visiting relative to try to call up Archive.org on her iPhone. She experienced the same difficulty that I had had. She also found, on the web, a site that stated that A.org has closed down totally, or words to that effect.

Less than an hour after that, in an email, I typed out the link that appears above (the "Fireworks" one), and asked my son, who lives a couple of hundred miles away and who is a Mac user, to see if he could bring up the website. (I did not mention any difficulties. I just told him that my browser was too old.) I sent him the screenshot kindly supplied by Boyd01, and asked him if he could download that elusive installer. This, he did. He transferred it to me, and it is now sitting on my desktop!

So, in due course, I hope to be able to update Photoshop CS6 to 13.0.6. I must say that it is a great puzzle to find that others can download what I could not do (not even in Monterey). If you have anything more to say, after seeing my Terminal screenshot, I should be very interested. And thanks for all your patient explanations.

Best, Clod-Hopper
 

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However, there is more to tell. Yesterday, I asked a visiting relative to try to call up Archive.org on her iPhone. She experienced the same difficulty that I had had. She also found, on the web, a site that stated that A.org has closed down totally, or words to that effect.

Sorry you're having these problems. But my initial reason for responding to this thread was your claim that Internet Archive had shut down. This is simply not true. Although this link may not work for you, they have blog posts on a variety of topics with the most recent one less than a week ago. No hint of them shutting down and everything works for me here in the US.

I gather you aren't in the US, so it's possible somebody between you and them (like your ISP or telco) is blocking your access. Could be related to the litigation in which archive.org is involved, I don't know. Seems less likely, but it's also possible that archive.org is blocking you, or a range of IP addresses from your ISP.

What site "stated that A.org has closed down"?

Does this link work for you? It's a a test of archive.org connectivity and indicates that it's working now, but if you look at the comments, some people outside the US had issues around a week ago.
 
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CLOD-HOPPER

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My initial reason for responding to this thread was your claim that Internet Archive had shut down. This is simply not true. Although this link may not work for you, they have blog posts on a variety of topics with the most recent one less than a week ago. No hint of them shutting down and everything works for me here in the US.

I gather you aren't in the US, so it's possible somebody between you and them (like your ISP or telco) is blocking your access. Could be related to the litigation in which archive.org is involved, I don't know. Seems less likely, but it's also possible that archive.org is blocking you, or a range of IP addresses from your ISP.

What site "stated that A.org has closed down"?
I didn't ask which site it was. In any case, it could have been just someone's opinion or understanding of the matter, as mine was. I have been compelled to revise my understanding, in the light of what obviously are the facts. At one time, I would regularly visit Archive.org. I even donated, once or twice. Then, I heard about the litigation and shortly after that, I could not open the website. I must say, though, that since then, someone has made a few email requests for donations, to help them in their legal struggle. I just thought they were from a few remaining staff of an organisation in its death-throes.
C.H.
 
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