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Boyd01

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Well, there you go! But this is interesting. According to the link on that page, two ISP's are blocking http://archive.org. However - notice this is http, which is the old, insecure web standard that might be expected to give the security errors you received.


But there are apparently no blocks on https://archive.org which is the secure web standard that should be used today.


However, notice that the two ISP's who blocked the http version are giving SSL errors for the https version. Are you using one of those ISPs?
 

CLOD-HOPPER

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Well, there you go! But this is interesting. According to the link on that page, two ISP's are blocking http://archive.org. However - notice this is http, which is the old, insecure web standard that might be expected to give the security errors you received.


But there are apparently no blocks on https://archive.org which is the secure web standard that should be used today.


However, notice that the two ISP's who blocked the http version are giving SSL errors for the https version. Are you using one of those ISPs?
Actually, I use my phone as a router ("tethering" my computer to its Wifi hotspot). I don't enjoy the use of broadband, but it makes a huge saving in money, every month. My provider is Smarty, which is owned by Hutchinson, who also own ThreeUK.
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CLOD-HOPPER

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That seems to be your problem then. :)
Yes, but the more one looks into things, the more one finds. I have discovered that Archive.org is (apparently) not being blocked for the reasons I thought. It is blocked, I understand, because it supposedly breaches Adult Content rules. So, I am now engaged in the labyrinthine task of getting my Adult Content blockage removed, in my Smarty account. And what a labyrinth this is proving to be! All just because I want a useful Archive to be open to me (I shall not search for Adult books, or anything like that). With me, it's more a matter of principle, now I have the Installer I wanted. However, something equally important for me might be needed, much later.
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LinMac

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The ISP is filtering and messing with your traffic. You might be able to avoid that if you want to. You can check on /r/privacy to see their wiki and the new site they link to for up to date security recommendations. A VPN like one from Mullvad would tunnel your traffic from your device to the server so your ISP can't block, monitor, or mess with it.
 

CLOD-HOPPER

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The ISP is filtering and messing with your traffic. You might be able to avoid that if you want to. You can check on /r/privacy to see their wiki and the new site they link to for up to date security recommendations. A VPN like one from Mullvad would tunnel your traffic from your device to the server so your ISP can't block, monitor, or mess with it.
Thanks for your verdict on the screenshot, LinMac. Also, for your recommendation of Mullvad. However, for the time being, I shall wait, to see whether I can change the settings of my Smarty account, so as to be able to view (ha, ha!) Adult Content (which would, it seems, give me access to Archive.org, which is the only website I ever found to be blocked). I suppose that on Archive.org, there will be books to download, similar to "Lady Chatterley's Lover", which would be inadvisable for children to obtain. Yesterday, I jumped through one or two hoops, and must go to the Smarty website/my account, to find out whether my token payment of one pound has secured that privilege. It all takes time, time, time....
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bogdanw

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If the ISP blocks access to archive.org, I doubt you can get the results to ping archive.org from post #20

The ISPs can block in two ways:
- at the DNS level. You can bypass that by changing the DNS servers to public ones
DNS settings https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/mh14127/
Cloudflare: 1.1.1.1, 1.0.0.1
Google: 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4
OpenDNS: 208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220

- by blocking classes of IPs. You need a VPN to bypass that.
 
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MacBiter

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Use a computer, not a mobile phone, to access Internet Archive - it's apparently not blocked by broadband providers.
 

CLOD-HOPPER

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Use a computer, not a mobile phone, to access Internet Archive - it's apparently not blocked by broadband providers.
Thanks, but in this particular case, MacBiter, the use of a phone is unavoidable because I have no broadband. My phone acts as my router and the Mac is "tethered" to it. However, since you mention the matter of access to Internet Archive, I asked my (phone) Provider to grant me access to "adult content", which they did. That allowed me to gain access to Internet Archive. I thought the Photoshop CS6 update problem would then be solved. However, after spending oceans of time in downloading AdobeFireworks, I found that they could not be opened. They were too ancient for me to use. So, Photoshop CS6 remains un-updated. Ah well, it's not as if I can't use Photoshop at all, so it's not all that bad.
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MacBiter

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Thanks, but in this particular case, MacBiter, the use of a phone is unavoidable because I have no broadband. My phone acts as my router and the Mac is "tethered" to it. However, since you mention the matter of access to Internet Archive, I asked my (phone) Provider to grant me access to "adult content", which they did. That allowed me to gain access to Internet Archive. I thought the Photoshop CS6 update problem would then be solved. However, after spending oceans of time in downloading AdobeFireworks, I found that they could not be opened. They were too ancient for me to use. So, Photoshop CS6 remains un-updated. Ah well, it's not as if I can't use Photoshop at all, so it's not all that bad.
C.H.
I'm not absolutely sure what it is you're trying for? I use Photoshop CS6 too (13.0 EXTENDED) and it works fine. I also have the Nik plugin collection which works in Mavericks, but I haven't tried that in my HS VM yet, though the Photoshop application works there.
 
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